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toderav
05 Oct 10 00:28
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managed to get some on at 20/1 e/w at Stan Shames earlier, ticks a lot of boxes for me, i cant see the ground being any better than good which should be ideal, should be in a lot of peoples notebooks because of genuine trip excuses recently, lets hope it doesnt play the bridesmaid again. feedback appreciated. GL

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By:
sintonian
When: 05 Oct 10 09:02
Has been knocking on the door all summer , at Chester, at Haydock. Should put in another bold show.
By:
Dark Destroyer
When: 05 Oct 10 09:28
Perfectly good shout and weighted to turn the form round with Theola. You've got the price and he looks like a definite runner.

Not scare-mongering but 2nd fav Universal Truth looks pretty weak on the exchange right now. Mind you that is far from conclusive as we all know.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 05 Oct 10 10:46
Love this horse. He deserves to win a big h'cap this year, just not sure if he'll be staying on strongly enough at the finish. Last time at HQ it looked to me like he was running out of stamina.
By:
andyd08
When: 05 Oct 10 11:32
been backing RC all year and he done really well

however i have reservations on three fronts,

i am not convinced about his ability to stay this trip (see above)

he has had easier opportunities than this will be to win and he has managed to get beat (i reckon he is a thinker as opposed to a doer)

he has ran in quite a few hcaps and see no reason why he will improve or prove well enough hcapped to win this hot heat

i suspect he will be on the scene and will prob start shorter but i wont be backing him

GL
By:
Dark Destroyer
When: 05 Oct 10 11:39
While I agree with both the previous posts I also think it is highly signficant that Murtagh, who almost certainly would have had the choice of several fancied contenders, has decided at such an early stage to stick with RC.

Good luck - even though my picks are Bergo and My Arch Laugh
By:
trev w
When: 05 Oct 10 14:43
the blinkers will make the diference hopefully..[;)]
By:
cryoftruth
When: 05 Oct 10 22:11
I am sick of Red Cadeaux. He would have won me a deal of cash at Chester, and he simply would not go past. He is a definite dodgepot and a complete barker. Trouble is he has all the ability to win and now I am against him I fear the sound of sod's law about to strike.

I do fear though that spurs and a long tom will be required for him to consent to put it all in at the finish. Blinkers don't sound like enough to me.
By:
very promising
When: 05 Oct 10 22:34
just been watching glorious goodwood reruns (i know a bit late) - terrific cesarewitch trial from sentry duty. 20s with corals, double some firms - what do they know?
By:
cryoftruth
When: 05 Oct 10 22:40
I am avoiding too much ante post on this race. The trouble is the draw. its fatal to be drawn out wide and almost impossible to win if you get unlucky with the darw. It means you need almost double the normal price because you have a bout a 50% chance of losing oyur money before the race has even started.
By:
Koo....
When: 06 Oct 10 00:03
and you have a 50% chance of your money doubling or trebling in value before the race,  so surely the draw factor shouldnt prevent anyone betting ante post ?
By:
Pinza
When: 06 Oct 10 16:21
I agree with Cryoftruth.
Fancied it at Chester also but after that put it down as bestman but never the groom.
Not sure what exactly is his distance and don't think trainer knows either.
By:
sintonian
When: 06 Oct 10 16:27
Didn't think Michael Hills was the strongest that day but do agree he should have won.
By:
trev w
When: 06 Oct 10 16:33
best price 14s now....was put up in raceform update today.
By:
sintonian
When: 06 Oct 10 16:36
Interestingly .. I wonder who rides ... Ryan Moore obviously rides a few winners for Ed and if he is confirmed could go off near fav .. punters would be all over it like a cheap wet suit.
By:
sintonian
When: 06 Oct 10 16:38
ignore that! DD has already said Murtagh rides..
By:
bidders itch
When: 06 Oct 10 16:39
I know Oceans Minstrel has been beaten numerous times this year to suggest he isn't well handicapped, but I think he shaped best of all in the Trial and fancy him to reverse form with the first 2, certainly the winner on the revised terms. There was plenty of 33's after but at 25's I still think he's worth a shot. And you can make a case of him being well treated on last year's form at much shorter distances.
By:
A.H HUNTER esq.
When: 06 Oct 10 21:09
Theola thrashed it ,cant see it turning the form round , fancy Theola .
By:
flushgordon
When: 06 Oct 10 21:49
unlikeley to even place,ces will be run at much stronger pace and doubt it will get home.
By:
knot in wood
When: 07 Oct 10 23:12
one i like at a massive price on hear is john dunlops "swingkeel",beaten about 3leneths by bergo at royal ascot and is 11 lbs better in.also was a little unlucky in the chester cup,but was still in front of red cadeaux who he meets on roughly the same terms.is a fresh horse and had a nice little pipeopener behind a decent horse over a trip to short in free agent,at salisbury lto.as won on any ground,will stay the trip,and is 4/5 times the price of bergo and red cadeaux!
By:
zilzal1
When: 07 Oct 10 23:58
^^

I think that your namesake will win the handicap on sat
By:
jameschildshieldwinner
When: 10 Oct 10 20:32
Murtagh rides Sentry Duty(alledgedly)
By:
zilzal1
When: 11 Oct 10 09:39
i thought Peslier was on Sentry
By:
Facts
When: 11 Oct 10 13:21
Admiral Barry is a very strong contender.Continues to improve.
By:
unstablelad
When: 11 Oct 10 16:49
Swinging Hawk 33/1 looks the value to me, by Hawk Wing Saldenschwinge - (In The Wings (11.7f) so should love this trip & going, Ian Williams has a good strike rate with his 4yo+ horses, ran no race LTO when 9/4 fav but this one is better than that!
By:
Reefer 2001
When: 11 Oct 10 21:52
2 points here:

Red Caduex need some cut.  It will be fast on Saturday.

Swingkeel ran a shocker in this last year so can't have that.

Most of the form lines point to Theola.  She stays very well and had a shocking draw at Goodwood.  16's looks good
By:
TINnotaTON
When: 11 Oct 10 22:25
Ed dunlop on red cadeaux
"he certainly deserves another win,he is an intented runner and the 2 mile 2 furlongs trip should be fine as long as the ground is not to soft, which it shouldnt be, it should be beautiful ground.
i dont thing the ground for red cadeaux will be any faster than it was on its last run at the course in mid september
By:
toderav
When: 12 Oct 10 01:47
interesting that Dunlop says that, i was always under the impression this horse thrived on soft going. anyway i cant complain the 20/1 is looking healthy now
By:
sintonian
When: 12 Oct 10 09:47
I think he means the horse does not want Soft ground over 2m2f.
By:
bidders itch
When: 12 Oct 10 10:35
the draw wasn't an issue for Theola at Goodwood. It was a tape start and they lined up where they wanted. The problem was that she didn't travel a yard.
By:
bidders itch
When: 12 Oct 10 10:35
Theola will also be 7 lb worse off with Red Cadeaux from last time.
By:
SOULDANCER
When: 12 Oct 10 12:05
Theola I've already backed, took a chance on the ground and looks like it's come right. Obviously suited by Newmarket looking at his win there. Will be well suited to the way this race unfolds, always like hold up horses in this. No weight, must have big chance.
  My Arch is another I follow but haven't bet yet, thought the price has been too short. Will thrive on the extra trip but drying ground's a worry. Might get outpaced at a crucial stage.
By:
SOULDANCER
When: 13 Oct 10 09:23
Theola out,tweaked a muscle. I never seem to have much luck ante-post.I don't need it, but can't seem to leave it alone.
By:
sintonian
When: 13 Oct 10 09:37
ul Soul.
By:
Stevie Gerrard
When: 13 Oct 10 09:59
Deauville Flyer looks the clear value at 25s to me at this stage, a good pace over this trip is just what he needs.
By:
SOULDANCER
When: 13 Oct 10 10:17
Cheers Sint, unlucky Tompkins too, only left with Dazinsky, who he said obviously doesn't stay this trip when he ran over it behind Theola. Curious he's running him really.
By:
toderav
When: 13 Oct 10 14:28
UL to Theola backers but im very happy about that as a big red cad a/p backer, was one of the main dangers in my eyes
By:
doogs
When: 13 Oct 10 14:54
William Buick booked to ride La Vecchia Scuola Happy
By:
bazzar
When: 13 Oct 10 16:19
So cry is worried about the draw in a 2 1/4 mile race, I'd better bone up on the draw for the GRAND NATIONAL.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 13 Oct 10 16:58
You could do worse than bone up on the draw history in the recent past for this race

Has one of the biggest draw biases of the racing calender, no matter that it's a 2m2f race
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