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sintonian
13 Aug 10 13:35
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Dettori/Bin Suruor

Might impressive there imo.

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sintonian
When: 13 Aug 10 13:36
Lads 16/1 for Guineas. FWIW.
By:
sintonian
When: 13 Aug 10 13:37
20/1 with Sly.
By:
sintonian
When: 13 Aug 10 13:38
Im having a bash at that.
By:
ben10
When: 13 Aug 10 13:44
Impressive but 16/1 isn't exactly great value for a maiden victory, wasn't exactly hammered today and Godolphin's ready first time out. Prefer Native Khan perhaps?
By:
sintonian
When: 13 Aug 10 13:46
Only a few quid for me Ben. Turn of foot was devastating but yep it's just a maiden so tentative.

Dettori was just interviewed briefly and says the horse has a big reputation but he's not ridden it before.
By:
sintonian
When: 13 Aug 10 14:04
It was backed this morning Ben.
By:
ben10
When: 13 Aug 10 14:04
Not massively, been following the race all day
By:
sintonian
When: 13 Aug 10 14:13
Yes not massively. Just remember Enzo saying on GetOn there was money for it.
By:
ben10
When: 13 Aug 10 14:16
Favourable comparison with the second division I see. Doubts are the stable's recent record with horses from 2 to 3 and the fact that it's too short, that's all I can really come up with. Was a good turn of foot.
By:
ben10
When: 13 Aug 10 14:17
..too short based on what the other's around it have done
By:
sintonian
When: 13 Aug 10 14:18
I completley agree.

One of those I feel compelled to back Shocked

Turn of foot was stunning.
By:
Michrich
When: 13 Aug 10 14:20
Do you think the horse is bred to go further than a mile at 3yo? The Dam is out of Galileo.
By:
ben10
When: 13 Aug 10 14:20
Good luck, if you're book building have to get him on side I reckon as will probably go on next time and be even shorter, wether he goes on all the way to May is another thing though. Just never seems that easy/obvious Happy
By:
sintonian
When: 13 Aug 10 14:47
25/1 available with Korral & Billies. Had a win bet with them.

gl gamblors Mischief
By:
sintonian
When: 13 Aug 10 14:47
Not sure Mich.
By:
mythical prince
When: 13 Aug 10 14:48
has the right pedigree for a guineas winner and no doubt that he'll stay a mile

reminded me of zafonic Shocked
By:
stealthgun
When: 13 Aug 10 16:00
For sure he did it well there gents but surely 16/1 is a bit tight (I understand you can get bigger in places). But a maiden win is a maiden win and considering you can get a group 2 winner - Strong Suit at 12/1 and a group one winner - Zoffany at 10/1.... I wouldn't be in any rush to steam in at 16s.
By:
bosra shame
When: 13 Aug 10 16:05
The horse does not hold a Dewhurst entry either - dont know if this is significant ?
By:
sintonian
When: 13 Aug 10 16:28
You dont have to steam in at 16's. And why would you,tbf?

Trainer stated after the race he will now be aimed at a Group race.
By:
Shark12
When: 13 Aug 10 17:24
"The horse does not hold a Dewhurst entry either - dont know if this is significant ?"

I doubt the supplementary fee would be significant to the Maktoums, so would suggest is he's considered good enough then he will be entered nearer the time.
By:
Tiswallaceno7
When: 13 Aug 10 18:02
Taking 20/1 on a juvenile by this operation is stone cold madness
By:
sj
When: 13 Aug 10 18:55
^sorry to say couldn't agree more,just wish nowdays they would leave the juveniles in england to winter.
By:
mythical prince
When: 13 Aug 10 19:35
mind u i think to be fair this is the first time for a while they've had a genuine contender.
By:
Graeme83
When: 13 Aug 10 20:44
I wouldn't even back it at 16/1 to turn up next season and i haven't saw the race yet
By:
ben10
When: 13 Aug 10 21:47
MP the same was said about Al Zir on here although he was slightly less impressive. HE did still run well subsequently at 2 so may be able to follow this horse this year at least..

On the Dewhurst line, Godolphin don't have a single horse in there, can't believe they don't have any two year olds who may be worth an entry.
By:
mythical prince
When: 13 Aug 10 21:55
al zir is gash though [;)]
By:
ben10
When: 13 Aug 10 22:03
Wasn't at the time according to some on here Silly

But you're right, ha
By:
jmc27
When: 13 Aug 10 23:12
Only back from a few days holidays so Im raging I missed this. One of  Godolphins best two year olds. Surprised to read it wasnt backed imo I say the support for Meehans is what helped to the amazing SP of 11/4 . Without going into much friend is in that yard and he has raved about this fella everytime he comes home.
By:
sintonian
When: 03 Sep 10 12:39
Entered for a listed race over 7f next week at Goodwood.

Looking further ahead, he has entry in the Beresford stakes towards the end of this month.
By:
Try My Best
When: 06 Sep 10 14:39
Entered up at Doncaster this week in a conditions race.
By:
Stake & Chips
When: 06 Sep 10 14:43
G2 Champagne Steaks Cool
By:
sintonian
When: 06 Sep 10 14:48
Indeed.

I would hope it is Good or better ground come Saturday, could be a worry otherwise.

Up,up and away!!
By:
Shark12
When: 06 Sep 10 18:12
Can easily see this beast being the first leg in a Godolphin treble on Saturday. Champagne Stakes (Saamidd), St Leger (Rewilding) & Park Stakes (Shakespearean).

Hope all 3 turn up.
By:
eric_morris
When: 06 Sep 10 19:23
Wonder if he'll run against Frankel on Friday or wait until Saturday?
By:
magic carpet
When: 06 Sep 10 20:12
He is related to gossamer on the dams side the ground turning soft should not be a negative,although the ground was offically good/firm on debut the going description was misleading as the jockeys who rode in the race were quoted as describing the ground between good and soft!
By:
Colonel Sanders
When: 06 Sep 10 20:37
Cut for the 2000G by Bet Bald & Sid James today
By:
sintonian
When: 07 Sep 10 09:21
Going is now Good to Soft. They are expecting bits and pieces of rain on Thurs/Friday aswell.

With Soft in the going description, i'd be happy if he made the frame. It's only his second run and you wouldn't want him knocked about.
By:
magic carpet
When: 07 Sep 10 15:56
if he were to only to place on saturday he wouldnt be one i'd want to have too high on my ante post shortlist for next years classics soft ground or not!
By:
eric_morris
When: 07 Sep 10 19:59
Al Zir, early doors you could see he was a moderate middle distance type ... Never got the hype on here.
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