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Based on the Godolphin modus operandi over the last few years I wouldn't be in a hurry to back Saamidd for the Guineas next year despite him looking decidedly useful. |
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Hasnt it been 11 years since a guineas winner for them??
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Cant be sure though was away from these shores for about 5 years, cant remember one since 06
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yes but I am not sure I would want to be a layer either - he looks very good indeed to me, a realy decent turn of foot. The opposition was pretty decent. Meehan's horse had just hosed up by 4 lengths in the Acomb and was made to look like a plater.
The other matter is that the form of the Irish horses all looks a bit dodgy to me. When Strong Suit, Zaffony etc all ran so close together i did wonder whether they could all be special. The two of major interest are Frankel and Saamidd. It looks like they will miss eachother this year and then maybe head for the showdown at HQ in May. |
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great if you have got the 25s/20s etc,but now couldn't back him (with their early season record) of late
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He will not be ready to win anything next season until August! Godolphin don't win anything early season these days! Wouldn't back him at 50's for either the 2000 Guineas or the Derby, it'd be madness! Talented by the looks of things but he just won't be ready in time!!
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i can't really have him as a derby horse cry tbh. the pedigree might say otherwise but he shows so much speed he looks like an out and out miler. still i'd be glad to be proven otherwise.
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imo, he won in a canter at donny; a totally different class to the opponents who are gr2 , gr3 winners . however there was a lowly rated horse quite close. nonetheless they didnt go fast but he was soon in a different parish. IF he got 12f (i very much doubt it) then the others better start now. 2000 guineas very possible. Approved looks like a consistent sort, so must have a proper chance at newmarket.
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He is bred to stay 12 furlongs. The stamina on th dam's side makes him at least as stoutly bred as Sea The Stars. Of course he might not stay, but he probably will do as do most horses so bred. Of course if he does he seems to have so much speed that he would be quite tricky to beat if he did. |
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He won in a canter at Donny ----
Yes he did, However I saw the third at Donny shagallover a decent field at York, and Saamidd's form is rock solid despite the ease of victory at Doncatster. The inescapable conclusion for anyone with a whiff of understanding of form is that Saamidd is a top class 2yo, a real top notcher. |
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Godolphin are incapable of having a horse ready for an assult on the early season classics, so he won't win until end of July/August!
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Further enhancement of the Saamidd form after the Mill Reef.
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Godolphin are certainly not incapable of getting a horse ready for the guineas - they did it before - was it Mark of Esteem?
I would admit their more recent record at the start of the flat has not been particularly awesome though. If Saamidd was trained by a top trainer in Ireland or here it would be quite a lot shorter though imo. he was just stunning at Doncaster. |
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One negative about his last run was the time was quite a poor one. Yes I know that doesn't mean he's a slow horse and he appeared to do it very easily but I'd like to see him compete in a faster run race. His debut time was quite a decent one so there's plenty of hope he could handle it but not all Godolphin 2yos improve much from their first run to their second.
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good point there figgis. personally I think frankel is the much better of the two, although admittedly don't think we'll learn anything from tommorow.
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Saamidd, winner of the Group Two Champagne Stakes at Doncaster on September 11, will gallop before racing at Newmarket on Thursday.
The Godolphin two-year-old, who is unbeaten in two outings, will exercise over seven furlongs on the Rowley Mile at 12.50pm and is due to be in the pre-parade ring at 12.30pm. He will be accompanied by two galloping companions. The Street Cry colt has always had a big reputation and is likely to run in either the Dewhurst Stakes at Newmarket or the Racing Post Trophy at Doncaster next. He is the 9-1 second-favourite behind Frankel for next year's 2000 Guineas. |
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