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are you talking to me here, i'm confused.
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Fame & Glory very similar to Soldieroffortune imo.
A very good horse, but not a brilliant one. Arc winners tend to be from the latter category. |
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May well have improved from 3 to 4.
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Dessie, wouldn't you agree that those distances flattered F&G?
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F&G is a pure staying horse who did not go to stud last term as to appeal to breeders he needs to win over 10f,beaten each time last year.Last weekends race was really a soft GR1,if he is going to have a chance of standing as a flat sire he needs to win the top 10f races this year,personally I doubt he can, I could see him winning the King George IF its not a very strong running.
I think he will face some very strong opposition this year,if he is a placed horse then they will sell him or stand him as a jump stallion as flat breeders wont touch him. |
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workonit, maybe he was flattered, we'll see this year now STS isn't around. Which horses at 4yo plus do you think will beat him over 10f this year?
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It's the 3yo's that will find him out imo.
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Maybe, but I haven't seen one yet that I could see beating him at 10f.
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Its a shame STS was around last year, otherwise people wouldn't be crabbing him because he'd be an Epsom Derby winner.
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Maybe thats because its only May,you figure it out,he will be exposed as a plod.
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I missed the ten furlong bit of your question, and don't get me wrong, I ould see him having a season like DoM had.
He could win a few Group 1's (as long as Jan Vermeer doesn't run in them), but just like the Duke and SoF, he'll be found out again in the Arc by special types like JV and Planteur. |
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Cape Blanco is another who could troble him in 10f events.
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DeSSieReborn 25 May 10 23:00
Its a shame STS was around last year, otherwise people wouldn't be crabbing him because he'd be an Epsom Derby winner. Bonkers statement on so many levels. |
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Fame & Glory isnt even the best older 10/12f horse in training in the uk/ire imo that would be Mawatheeq. Beat him hands down in champ stakes (although granted fame was well over top by then). 12f t rec holder @ Ascot. and is from the family of ghanaati,nayef and nashwan that improve with age.If Tregoning can iron out injury problems this horse is a multiple grp1 winner waiting to happen.
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Remember F&G trying to win the Irish Champion last only chance was to go fast and hope!The great horse thrashed him.
When he meets a 10f horse again at GR1 level,the same result. |
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Winning at royal Ascot over 10f will definitely be more attractive to breeders then winning at epsom over 1.5 miles.. I'm surprised they are even considering the coronation cup.
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Some harsh reflections on Fame and Glory here.
If he hadn't run into the horse of the decade his record would look pretty impeccable and they'd have never have run him at Newmarket. Agreed he's mopped up the Tattersalls for breeding purposes but conceivably could have improved and one only has to look at what they did with Duke of Marmalade and especially Dylan Thomas to see what they can do with a quality older horse. The true tests are to come, but he's done nothing more than could be asked of him and will probably have a favourites chance a few more times this year. He'll most likely go off too short all year, I won't be a backer but I wouldn't write him off at all. |
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double sh1t..........Cape looks to be certain non runner now,can i go back a week and back JV at 30's? didn't think so
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You can have some of my 40 at 7 if your nice to me and laff at all my jokes ...
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