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ben10
01 May 10 21:44
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No thread for the first older horse Group 1 of the year in Europe, think we need one :)

Cutlass Bay looks likely favourite having been impressive last year before getting injured and then showing himself in good heart last month.
Court Canibal for man of the moment Mikel Delzangles ran a massive race finishing second to him in the Harcourt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZuOxMvrDyE) although that was on soft and today it's good which might not suit him, Cutlass Bay is also better at the weights tomorrow.
Chinchon appears to have found the winning habit now with cheekpieces seeming to make the difference.
Shalanaya looks a top filly having beaten Midday last year in the Prix D'Opera and will appreciate the ground.

No prices yet so can't say if I'll be betting on the race but looks interesting, any thoughts?
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Report A_T May 1, 2010 10:03 PM BST
Looks like a weak G1 - difficult to oppose an unbeaten Andre Fabre horse.
Report ben10 May 1, 2010 10:07 PM BST
If it was soft I'd take him on with Court Canibal but not so sure, Chinchon to place could be the bet.

See Kasbah Bliss also runs tomorrow and possibly an interesting Oaks trial race.
Report GRIZLY May 1, 2010 10:13 PM BST
the delzangles filly for me
Report ben10 May 1, 2010 10:16 PM BST
Which one?
Report ben10 May 1, 2010 10:17 PM BST
Never mind ones a colt :D
Report redal2 May 1, 2010 10:49 PM BST
Cutlass Bay for me, I thought he won well the other day and as you say is favoured by the weights.
Report redal2 May 1, 2010 10:53 PM BST
Shalanaya is interesting though at a huge forecast price on zeturf apparently. Fabre had another big win today and his horses are going so well that I'll stick with CB.
Report redal2 May 1, 2010 10:55 PM BST
Darma wasn't entered up for her prep as expected. She seems very fragile
Report Princesse D'Anjou May 1, 2010 11:06 PM BST
Shalanaya very dangerous if they give her an uncontested lead - she was unlucky to be taken on by Queen Spumamatra in Japan and has top class form over CD so in with a real shot, don't think there'll be any 25/1 available though lol
Report redal2 May 1, 2010 11:08 PM BST
Have you heard anything about Darma Princesse?
Questarabad won nicely the other day by the way :-)
Report ben10 May 1, 2010 11:27 PM BST
Very nice, Jumbo Rio deserves a race at Auteuil soon
Report GRIZLY May 1, 2010 11:28 PM BST
alaivan is entered in le prix amadou
Report redal2 May 1, 2010 11:29 PM BST
Yes Jumbo Rio ran really well. Probably earned more for finishing 2nd there than if it had won at home
Report ben10 May 1, 2010 11:29 PM BST
True, I think he probably doesn't quite get the 18f, even if they hack round for half the race!
Report Pret a Gagner May 2, 2010 12:28 AM BST
Good to see some Jumbo Rio fans out in force! I've done my absolute b*llocks following him this season. Some strange PMU dealing going on last Monday, drifted out from 33 to 50, is sent off at 17 and pays 6/4 the place!! God the French make life difficult. Questarabad looks very hard to beat, and Jumbo Rio won't have a big 5yo weight concession in the big one.

Ganay looks difficult, prefer to load up on Kasbah Bliss in the other race.
Report Pret a Gagner May 2, 2010 12:38 AM BST
prix amadou and prix ingre on 9 may, where do you get the entries from this early please?

Princesse what was the news on Surfing? Saw that you like it, and its beaten the greyt Son Amix :)
Report ben10 May 2, 2010 8:01 AM BST
http://www2.france-galop.com/FGWeb/domaines/courses/courses_calendrier.aspx?L=en

Scroll down to the 9th, and click Auteuil and then the race you want to see the entries for.
Report ben10 May 2, 2010 10:17 AM BST
Anyone know if Longchamp has had any rain?
Report ben10 May 2, 2010 10:23 AM BST
Prices if interested, nothing stands out:

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/international-racing/fra-longchamp/14:40-1m-2f-class-1-prix-ganay-group-1-4yo-plus
Report Princesse D'Anjou May 2, 2010 10:24 AM BST
Not heard anything about Darma as yet.

Surfing ran in a handicap hurdle but was well beaten on his seasonal return, was expecting him to turn up in the Prix Robert Hennessy next weekend but he's not in the entries.

Did you ask me about a horse called Sweeny a few months back? She's She's been sold to race for Willie Mullins I think along with a few others (mainly AQPS horses).
Report GRIZLY May 2, 2010 10:30 AM BST
ground is good
Report Pret a Gagner May 2, 2010 11:26 AM BST
I forecast the prices last night, and the one I got the most wrong was Chinchon. Had it down as a 5/2 shot, not 11/2. Court Canibal makes some appeal.

http://blog.bookies.com/horse-racing/1199/longchamp-2010-prix-ganay-betting-preview.html
Report Pret a Gagner May 2, 2010 11:32 AM BST
Good stuff Pd'A.

Do you know if any other UK/IRE horses are going over for the Grande Course de Haies or Grand Steeple?

Quevega? Mourad? Long Run? Denman?
Report top3 makin ahern and de souza May 2, 2010 11:39 AM BST
one of my fAVES is running in this the bogberry i remember backing him when he turned over famous name i wont be able to resist a few pounds At massive odds
Report ben10 May 2, 2010 11:46 AM BST
Chinchon looks an each way bet to nothing to me.
Report redal2 May 2, 2010 12:04 PM BST
Sticking witht he favourite I'm afraid.
Good username by the way Pret
Report TD_Gunner May 2, 2010 12:20 PM BST
Marmite said anything about Cutlass Bay redal?
Report Princesse D'Anjou May 2, 2010 12:23 PM BST
Long Run - no, doubt he'll stay 3m 5f anyway.

Denman - no

Quevega - possible

Jumbo Rio - yes - goes in the Grand Haies De Auteuil (French Champion) at 3m+

Hurricane Fly - possible for the 2m 5f Prix La Barka on GSDP day

Alaivan - possible for Prix De Longchamp, Prix Alan Du Breil (G3 and G1)

Pomme Tiepy - pretty sure she'll take up her usual GSDP engagement
Report redal2 May 2, 2010 12:26 PM BST
TD, just for you :-)

CUTLASS BAY (38) looked like developing into one of the top three year olds last year but suffered a minor fracture in one of his front legs. He was actually set to come back for the Grand Prix de Deauville and then the Arc at one point but was held back till the Prix d'Harcourt to give him more time to recover.

Cutlass Bay won the Prix d'Harcourt narrowly but comfortably, extending his unbeaten record to four races.

Next time out things are going to be tougher for Cutlass Bay because he'll be stepping up to Group 1 company for the Prix Ganay. He has been winning over the Ganay trip of 10.5f and less but is a mature, deep chested, long striding colt that's built and bred for every inch of a mile and a half (he's a full brother to the King Edward VII winner Boscobel).

I spent a good deal of last season raving about what a good horse I thought Cutlass Bay was and how well he'd run to beat his stablemate Cavalryman. The Ganay will give us a chance to see just how good he really is. But if he loses while finishing strongly I wouldn't write him off as he may very well do better over a mile and a half.
Report TD_Gunner May 2, 2010 12:33 PM BST
thanks mate.
Report Pret a Gagner May 2, 2010 1:31 PM BST
Got a stat. Since 1980 there has never been an unbeaten winner of the Ganay.

Perhaps the only reason Cutlass Bay is unbeaten is that he hasn't been raced at the very top level? How good is that form vs Cavalryman?

Thanks PDA. I'm going to Guineas Day and Champion Hurdle day in Pars, not sure about the Grand Steeple, same day as Kings Stand @ Royal Ascot and I'm going to have a large one on Overdose next week :) He's back on May 9 @ Berlin with Soumillon.

Like Kasbah Bliss but too short at 11/10 considering he got stuffed in this last year.
Report redal2 May 2, 2010 1:32 PM BST
Still thinking about On Verra in the earlier race but I lost on her last time so don't want to chase losses.
Report GRIZLY May 2, 2010 1:33 PM BST
worst prix vanteaux i ve seen
Report ben10 May 2, 2010 1:36 PM BST
Nice horse that Zagora
Report TD_Gunner May 2, 2010 1:36 PM BST
wow, impressive
Report Pret a Gagner May 2, 2010 1:37 PM BST
Easy
Report redal2 May 2, 2010 1:37 PM BST
Happy to have left OV alone. Quickened well the winner. Backed Blek in the stayers race
Report ben10 May 2, 2010 1:37 PM BST
French Oaks is going to be an awesome race imo
Report visionario May 2, 2010 2:05 PM BST
looked stacelita 2 ,
Report EastLower Gooner May 2, 2010 2:15 PM BST
cutlass bay looked CHUBBY last time :o
Report TD_Gunner May 2, 2010 2:17 PM BST
how far he win by today ELG? :)
Report TD_Gunner May 2, 2010 2:44 PM BST
eassssyyyy
Report ben10 May 2, 2010 2:44 PM BST
Very impressive
Report EastLower Gooner May 2, 2010 2:45 PM BST
he took the pss there.
Report redal2 May 2, 2010 2:45 PM BST
Indeed. Bit messy though. Nice run from the 2nd too
Report GRIZLY May 2, 2010 2:47 PM BST
lemaire lost whip lol
Report ben10 May 2, 2010 2:47 PM BST
Well done winners, would have had him in the ten to follow if they'd included him :(
Report redal2 May 2, 2010 2:48 PM BST
Nice to see Fabre back at the top
Report GRIZLY May 2, 2010 2:53 PM BST
stewards ?
Report GRIZLY May 2, 2010 2:54 PM BST
OFFICIAL :)
Report Pret a Gagner May 2, 2010 2:57 PM BST
Pays €2.20 on PMU. Will be shorter for the Arc.
Report rhinestone May 2, 2010 2:59 PM BST
Will ATR show Kasbah's race live?
Report Pret a Gagner May 2, 2010 3:00 PM BST
You mean Kasbah's win? ;)
Report rhinestone May 2, 2010 3:01 PM BST
Yes, sorry. :p
Report Pret a Gagner May 2, 2010 3:05 PM BST
Not sure, you can get text comms here at zeturf

http://www.zeturf.com/fr/commentairesF6.swf?titre=ZE commentaires&port=22112&url=xml6.zeturf.com
Report redal2 May 2, 2010 3:14 PM BST
Get in :-)
Report ben10 May 2, 2010 3:15 PM BST
Well done :)
Report rhinestone May 2, 2010 3:15 PM BST
Quite happy, he's gagging for 2m4f nowadays, not many will be at Ascot.
Report redal2 May 2, 2010 3:16 PM BST
Thanks Ben
Report ben10 May 2, 2010 3:20 PM BST
Didn't really look at the race but quite like Bannaby so was some nice form beating him.
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