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29 Sep 21 13:00
Date Joined: 08 Oct 08
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hey lads hope everyone is well?

Some good judges and track specialists on here, so if i asked you the post title question what is your answer for each trip at your UK track?

A few of us are trying to help 'greyhound-data' tidy up their ratings more accurately which haven't been updated for years.

We've had racing surface work done, new drainage Romford, Monmore, Towcester... for starters let alone changes in track staff or racing office staff who are generous or not with allowances etc etc nothing has been factored in.

Also my personal opinion why is it so easy to get a 100+ over a sprint...  '100' should be a proper top grade/ minor open dog on the bunny with his 'A' game, not easier than this

this is only UK tracks at this point, feel free to join in 'harsh or generous' ratings everyone's opinion is much appreciatedLove
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Report dr . atkins September 29, 2021 3:03 PM BST
hope your well czechbet never been a one ratings and for romford the going changes every meeting and during racing so got to know your dogs to know the going it comes down to knowing the dogs at the track you doing
Report Czechbet September 29, 2021 5:39 PM BST
hey doc, yep its just a general for them as right now its never been less accurate not even close.

what is a 100 rated run on bang level track (as we know rare as they are) is the question ?

ratings are not for punters they are for breeders, buyers and people who haven't a clue to at least gain half a chance of what they are looking at.

tues night 129 rating in a D3 sprint need to be a thing of the past ffs Laugh
Report wondersobright September 30, 2021 3:01 PM BST
passed the autumn equinox...that can mean only 1 thing Grin
Report Czechbet September 30, 2021 3:04 PM BST
Laugh what have i missed mate
Report Czechbet September 30, 2021 3:09 PM BST
Ok so on a lovely level track prepared well 'bang normal allowance' (ive lost you already haven't i) LaughWink

what do you think of these sprint times as a rock solid 100 data rated run, please feel free to add on what you think might be too generous or harsh, thx

Central Park 16.22
Doncaster 16.93
Harlow 14.85
Henlow 16.49
Hove 16.29
Kinsley 16.05
Monmore 15.45
Newcastle 17.05
Nottingham 17.86
Pelaw 14.30
Perry Barr 16.12
Romford 13.47
Sheffield 16.12
Sunderland 15.90
Swindon 15.67
Towcester 15.77
Yarmouth 16.35
Report backatrier October 2, 2021 7:37 PM BST
225 think its more like 13.60

400 24.10

575 35.25
Report Czechbet October 3, 2021 10:25 AM BST
thanks backatrier
Report SHROPSHIRELAD October 3, 2021 11:29 AM BST
I don’t know about all the tracks but SHEFFIELD  was hugely overrated at one time, probably still is but just a tad instead of miles out

Current tracks where I have no doubt whatsoever that the ratings are too high are CENTRAL PARK and CRAYFORD

I do have my own numbers for track comparisons, for example I think the difference over the standard trip between Monmore  & Perry Barr is about 2 lengths as in for me a 28.60 at Perry Barr is around a 28.45 run at Monmore (assuming that the dog runs both tracks equally well)

Cross examining the going allowances is also obviously key, again just one example on St. Leger night at Perry Barr for me the track was a tad fast as opposed to the normal that was given.
Report Czechbet October 3, 2021 1:36 PM BST
agree Shropshire Sheff was renowed as one of the first that went on the kind side, Central Park right now is on its own tho miles out

is it the poor surface combined with weak racing office, but reckon i could get 100 rating running round there myself ffs lol
Report wondersobright October 5, 2021 1:30 PM BST
Also my personal opinion why is it so easy to get a 100+ over a sprint

czech in horse racing usually the best times on the card pro rata ie time relative to standard (usually per furlong but preferably per 100s of race time) are nearly always sprints & the worst are the long distance races

in dogs especially the ratio of finishing speed to overall race speed will have a lot to do with that
really good sprint dogs will run flat out for say 300m
marathons its virtually impossible running that way
Report wondersobright October 5, 2021 1:31 PM BST
best marathon bitch of modern times roxholme magic classic example...behind early, dominant from 2nd lap
scurlogue etc etc
Report Czechbet October 5, 2021 1:37 PM BST
cheers mate we on it, 2 and 4 bends they updated as of oct 1st CP looked more realistic sunday
Report wondersobright October 5, 2021 3:14 PM BST
ok good work
Report Czechbet October 5, 2021 3:19 PM BST
we will see how accurate it all looks after a few weeks lol
Report Stow_judge December 10, 2021 7:49 PM GMT
Even with accurate standard times, the calculated times of races will not be very accurate, as they are not very good at setting going allowances.
Report Czechbet December 11, 2021 11:41 AM GMT
Agree, but GD lot more realistic now and can keep tweaking
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