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By:
garryc
When: 21 Jun 17 20:05
it still goes on ShockedShocked fuxxin hell
By:
woodmanchester
When: 21 Jun 17 23:51
As some bright spark thinks, I've been betting on the Derby since last September, that's a lot of free weekly £5 bets! Laugh
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Jun 17 06:42
Got my pair for the Plate and picked a brace for the other competitions:

Hurdles, Sober Call/Razldazl Raidio
Stayers, Rubys Rascal, Aayamza Breeze
Sprint, Coney McKenna, Westway Gaga

Just waiting for betting now

Meeting really too good to miss and thinking of making the long drive down. Coventry used to be far enough but this pushing it a fair bit further
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Jun 17 17:20
Seems strange to me Swithins Brae is only 18/1 outright when you can get 12/1 for his heat?! Crazy

My dream final:

1 Butt
2 Buick
3 Bruisers
4 Clares
5 Mason
6 Shay

Excited
By:
garryc
When: 22 Jun 17 17:39

Jun 22, 2017 -- 5:20PM, woodmanchester wrote:


Seems strange to me Swithins Brae is only 18/1 outright when you can get 12/1 for his heat?! My dream final:1 Butt2 Buick3 Bruisers4 Clares5 Mason6 Shay


the first time you have been honest (my dream final) yip one big dream Laugh

By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Jun 17 19:01
All set for another drive down Saturday (over 240 miles round trip) and even final night a live possibility now

Yet another freebie Skybet. Hope they chalk up the supporting competitions
By:
Addictedtowinning
When: 23 Jun 17 07:36
Seriously take a long look at yourself and get some help.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 23 Jun 17 07:54
I never get this abuse on horseracing. You all back me into a corner, so I have to defend myself

Only help I need is ignoring all you plebs

Blanking all the knobs, think it's daft the way they've mixed the races up for the various competitions
By:
miss.wales
When: 23 Jun 17 09:00
Woody

Seems strange to me Swithins Brae is only 18/1 outright when you can get 12/1 for his heat?

That's because the dog doesn't have to win his heat to win the final.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 23 Jun 17 11:59
If 12/1 for heat, should be about 25/1 outright, imo
By:
Yahoo
When: 23 Jun 17 12:27
Swithins Brae is in the semi containing the outright jollies so nothing strange about it really. Its going to be a big price to win that semi, similar with Coolavany Mason.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 23 Jun 17 14:02
Precisely, so if Clares and Shay go through as expected and Swithins scrapes it, what price if the fancied ones qualify from the first semi? Just saying 18/1 outright daft
By:
miss.wales
When: 23 Jun 17 14:17
Woody

Try it another way.

How would you price up for each dog qualifying in this semi?
By:
woodmanchester
When: 23 Jun 17 14:23
About hal their current prices?
By:
woodmanchester
When: 23 Jun 17 14:23
half
By:
woodmanchester
When: 23 Jun 17 14:25
Works both ways. Double their current prices outright?
By:
Yahoo
When: 23 Jun 17 15:39
Half? So youd say Swithins a 7/2 chance to qualify. More like 6/4 Id be.
By:
Yahoo
When: 23 Jun 17 15:46
And prices to win the race don't necessary mirror your qualify price. Id have Clares Favourite to win the race but Id be shorter Shay to qualify.
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 23 Jun 17 16:56
What price you make missle to qualify
Yahoo
By:
Yahoo
When: 23 Jun 17 17:06
5/2 maybe 11/4 Fattie.
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 23 Jun 17 17:17
Made him that myself Wink
By:
irishone
When: 23 Jun 17 17:19
rather be sn owner
10k at 50 shay
By:
miss.wales
When: 23 Jun 17 17:25
Baldfred's Prices.......

Tyrur Shay                1/4                                                                               
Clares Rocket                2/7                                                                               
Bruisers Bullet                4/6                                                                               
Hiya Butt                4/6                                                                               
Droopys Buick                8/11                                                                               
Droopys Acrobat                1                                                                               
Forest Con                1                                                                               
Coolavanny Mason            6/4                                                                               
Swithins Brae                6/4                                                                               
Astute Missile                3                                                                               
Murrys Act                7/2                                                                               
Sallows Ford                5

Am I being thick, or are they betting overbroke here, particularly on the dogs in the first semi-final?
By:
wondersobright
When: 23 Jun 17 17:32
overbroke on the 2nd semi final

there is a dog who is a HUGE price imo in the to make the final market on here
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 23 Jun 17 17:33
people laying off on Shay who are on e/w surely Wonders, laying at way too big a price but then nobody seems to be taking it
By:
Yahoo
When: 23 Jun 17 17:34
1/5 Shay 2/7 Clares 11/10 Mason 6/4 Brae 5/2 Missile 3 Sallows. Your right Wales their well under 300.
By:
wondersobright
When: 23 Jun 17 17:35
1/2 absolutely RIDICULOUS PF I am on e/w I have still had to play at that price 1/4-1/5 my price for him to make the final
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 23 Jun 17 17:36
Aye noticed the price first thing this morning, also he has been matched out to 4.7 outright today as well, few people ringing me getting worried was there something wrong with him, personally has thr look of people sh1tting themselves for some reason and wanting some profit and laying at the wrong price
By:
wondersobright
When: 23 Jun 17 17:38
I am on @ 50s e/w but not enough money to worry about laying off, just having a look at the markets and saw 1.5 Shocked not much of an odds on punter on dogs but fck me that price is bang wrong if all ok with the dog
By:
irishone
When: 23 Jun 17 18:25
half a million to lay off ?
jobs been done lads
By:
wondersobright
When: 23 Jun 17 18:37
maybe people wanting to lay stake money for even money winner if worst happens and he doesn't make final
but 1.5 far far too big a price imo
By:
Winja
When: 23 Jun 17 18:42
who was the shay bet struck with irish...
By:
woodmanchester
When: 24 Jun 17 00:40
If those odds to qualify are accurate, would Baldie lay me 4/1 Shay and 7/2 Clares not to qualify?
By:
hunglikeadonkey
When: 24 Jun 17 10:47
No of course they won't lay a 0% book. How on earth did you think the to qualify prices should be half the win price?
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 24 Jun 17 10:56
Laugh why do people still try to explain it, all facets of betting have been explained to him for years now on here but none of it goes in.

As for the Derby i think Hiya Butt could be the key to who wins the competition, if he does not make the final i think it is a massive plus for Clares Rocket and if he does make the final i think it can be seen as a positive for Tyrur Shay.

Without Hiya Butt in the final i think Clares Rocket can lead everything else that is left in the comp and once leading i don't see him picked up.

With Hiya Butt in the final off a decent break Hiya Butt leads around, then looking at the race even if Clares Rocket turns second where does he pass him? The back straight is too short and Hiya Butt is brilliant down the back as well, dogs find it so hard to pass around the 3rd/4th so that leaves the home straight the place and by then you'll have Tyrur Shay closed right up on them.

And then there is the possibility that Hiya Butt doesn't get passed at all and leads all the way.
By:
At_The_Dogs
When: 24 Jun 17 11:02
How they made TIPP 2/1 & Blueboy 7/2 on the run Tuesday night...
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 24 Jun 17 11:07
Tipp is out anyway, coughing - not something Rocket backers would want to have heard
By:
At_The_Dogs
When: 24 Jun 17 11:30
Your right there PF.
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 24 Jun 17 11:37
Fancied bar the warrior
Even more now
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 24 Jun 17 11:38
Hope for now mis break in other heat
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