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By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 17 Nov 13 12:35
What do you make of all the speculation regarding recent injuries to dogs R.  Do you point a finger at the track surfcaes, as some do, the make up of the first bend, as others do, or another theory?  You see it live and hear more than we do - any thoughts?
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 17 Nov 13 12:41
By the way - be warned.  I picked up on Cuil Cool last night and went back on to bet365 at 21.02 exactly, to have some more on Bridie and, unaccountably, the race - although published as a 21.10 starter, was marked as OFF, and I didn't/couldn't get on.  More than annoying ( as you would imagine ) - indeed, costly!.  I have asked 365 by email for explanation and they have promised to investigate and get back to me.  I'll let you all know the outcome.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 17 Nov 13 12:41
I'm not a trainer but believe they don't like tracks too fast, which seems the case currently
By:
woodmanchester
When: 17 Nov 13 12:41
Honcho, they do it all the time
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 17 Nov 13 12:43
Do they?!  Thanks for letting me know woody - that's what this forum should do!
By:
woodmanchester
When: 17 Nov 13 12:47
Well, dry and reasonably mild, so taking missus for a drive to the coast now. Probably be back for Henlow tonight. Have a nice day all!
By:
DefiniteOpinion
When: 17 Nov 13 13:30
Well how are the off course bookies going to know when the race has actually started in Limerick? I don't think Bet365 will have a representative at the track reporting back on a telephone and there are no live pics available. Wouldn't be unusual for Irish races to be run off in advance of their official scheduled off times. I'd suspect this is why it dropped off a few mins early.
By:
BJG
When: 17 Nov 13 13:58
LoyalHoncho     17 Nov 13 12:35 
What do you make of all the speculation regarding recent injuries to dogs R.  Do you point a finger at the track surfcaes, as some do, the make up of the first bend, as others do, or another theory?  You see it live and hear more than we do - any thoughts?


I go to limk more than any other track, the 1st bend has been an issue here for as long as the track is open. They thought they had fixed it but its as bad a ever, unreal amount of dogs injured and ko'd at it on a regular basis, way more than any other track
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 17 Nov 13 18:36
Ok definite, thanks for that.  I wasn't aware that some races were allowed to start early  It doesn't make any sense to me that a fifteen minute "advance off" is applied but anyway, here is the 365 reply.

I am contacting you regarding the Limerick racing that you raised a query for yesterday.

I am able to confirm that Greyhound racing at Limerick is always set to close 15 minutes prior to the off at a Trading Decision, this is due to the lack of pictures we have for Limerick. Betting closed on this race 20.55 and prices were available up to this point.

I hope this information helps and if you have any further queries please don't hesitate to contact me.
By:
poorpup
When: 17 Nov 13 18:50
limerick was on 24 dogs last nite
By:
woodmanchester
When: 17 Nov 13 19:52
Nowhere near a 15 minute time-lag with those pictures. 365 cop-out
By:
poorpup
When: 17 Nov 13 20:15
15 seconds more like
By:
poorpup
When: 17 Nov 13 23:33
17/11/2013
There was a very unfortunate outcome to the first semi-final of the Kerry Agribusiness Irish St Leger at Limerick on Saturday night when the long-odds favourite Roxholme Bully pulled up with a broken front leg on the first bend.

In contrast it was a doubly satisfying session for trainer Paul Hennessy who turned out both heat winners in Locnamon Bridie and Jaytee Hellcat.

In the first heat Roxholme Bully went to traps the favourite but he missed his normal fast start and it was Skywalker Farloe that led up on the outside. Roxholme moved up fast to challenge into the bend but then pulled up in distress on the corner and Skywalker now led from Locnamon Bridie with Tyrur Sugar Ray some lengths back in third.

Skywalker drifted wide off the final bend and the challenging Locnamon Bridie (Royal Impact/ Locnamon Nell) took full advantage as she got up to win by three parts of a length from Skywalker Farloe in 29.62 with Tyrur Sugar Ray some four lengths back in third.

The second semi also had its incidents as both Cashen Cocoa and Stone Boy King hit the ground on the opening bend. General Wolf led up but Jaytee Hellcat moved second between the opening bends.

Jaytee Hellcat (Ace Hi Rumble/ Droopys Geneva) moved up in gear down the far side and this brilliant John Turner owned tracker hit the front between the final two bends. From here Jaytee accelerated clear and the track record holder won by four lengths from General Wolf in 29.82 with Rockview Turbo some three and a half lengths third.
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 18 Nov 13 12:38
Dunno what to make of the final, i thought Sugar Ray has had too much racing this year heading into the comp and he has not looked anywhere near his best the last 2 weeks, was up the arse of Rockview Turbo on the 2nd last week and couldn't pick him up and never closed at all on Bridie or Farloe Saturday night, drawn where he wants to be but has to run an awful lot better.
General Wolf was the culprit of all the trouble in the 2nd heat imo and you'd wonder how he is going to take that bend again next week, he needs a flier and trouble behind.
Bridie is running out of her nut again, really is a brilliant bitch and hopefully she can clear Wolf up as otherwise it's hold your breath on the corner, she broke well in the semi but hardly flew to the corner and was beat up by both Bully [who didn't come away] and Farloe, if she can clear the insdie to the corner she will win.
Rockview Turbo has a chance if getting a flier and if he goes around he will be hard beat, i would not be surprised to see him lead the outside up anyway.
Jaytee Hellcat was absolutely poxed Saturday night, how he avoided the first bend melee when in an awful position going into it i will never know but once doing so he was always gonna run down Wolf. I'm not really keen on his draw in the final either but obviously if he turns the opening bends untouched he should not be far away.
Skywalker Farloe was a massive disappointment to me, came away and led into the back, now i am a huge Locnamon Bridie fan but i still thought Skywalker Farloe should have been winning from where he was. If he can lead the ouside again he has a massive chance.


Tyrur Sugar Ray 9/2
General Wolf 14/1
Locnamon Bridie 7/2
Rockview Turbo (m) 13/2
Jaytee Hellcat (m) 7/2
Skywalker Farloe (w) 9/2

100%


yep i really think the final is that open
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 18 Nov 13 13:05
after watching the run to the corner in slow mo i'm being harsh on General Wolf i think as 2 seems to catch his back end
By:
poorpup
When: 18 Nov 13 14:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vmBvhyCAOY
By:
irishone
When: 18 Nov 13 15:15
It would be marvellous if Sugar Ray could cap a great career by winning this.
His first litter of pups are now 15 months old and will be racing next year.
By:
poorpup
When: 18 Nov 13 17:44
frightening stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l8432Bs9VE
By:
woodmanchester
When: 18 Nov 13 18:15
Obviously want Bridie but think Turbo could go well at a decent price. Forget semi where no run early. If away in best style, could go close. After all, already beaten Hellcat and Sugar Ray in this competition
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 18 Nov 13 18:28
I'm with you irish.  I love TSR and if Bridie loses then I hope it is to him.  As you say, it is going to be interesting to see his pups next year ( hopefully we do ).  For me, there is nothing to beat dogs like him, and Razldazl George, and even Bridie, who simply never know when they are beat.  It is this one quality, more than any other for me that, you want to see in a dog, and by extension, in a sire or brood.  All of the very good dogs have it I know, but some just have a wee bit more than others, and stand out because of it.  Nice write up R. You are very lucky,.............having Shelbourne as your home track!  Must be magic to watch these classy dogs every week.
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 18 Nov 13 18:39
aye it's not bad having it as your local track Laugh
By:
woodmanchester
When: 18 Nov 13 18:44
Yeah, worth setting up stall in a cardboard box in Ringsend! hee hee
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 18 Nov 13 18:48
i'm not quite that close
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 18 Nov 13 23:59
I notice that Charlie Lister got a fine run out of Jan '12, Ballymac Budget at Cov tonight.  Has Liam Dowling farmed it out to him for an English campaign or, has he sold it on?
By:
woodmanchester
When: 22 Nov 13 17:04
Bridie and Turbo win equal amounts now. Anything else, wipe-out!

Wonder if we will be able to bet on other Limerick races? Wouldn't mind having a bob or two on dogs like Knockglass Billy, Cashen Cocoa, Riptide Movement/Priceless Bolt and Skywalker Legend Plain
By:
poorpup
When: 22 Nov 13 18:17
limerick mat be off tomorrow night
By:
woodmanchester
When: 23 Nov 13 12:30
Power and 365 only seem to have the final loaded on their websites, so no bets on other races Crazy
By:
frankalsoran60
When: 23 Nov 13 19:33
T.G 4 AT 9.0C...FINAL AT 9.40
By:
poorpup
When: 23 Nov 13 19:47
http://www.e-tote.com/24dogs/video.php?skin=link2bet
By:
Dan Chipowski
When: 23 Nov 13 21:46
Oaks & Leger winner, what a bitch Bridie is. Love
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 23 Nov 13 21:58
SUPERBITCH!!!  You little sweetie!
By:
woodmanchester
When: 24 Nov 13 02:25
Locnamon Bridie always led 29.34, easily beat Tyrur Sugar Ray. Not a big bet at 33/1 start but still a decent profit
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