couple of nice bets tonight at notts

Tr which one's the nap for you ?

what ya get on aero rebel at 7/4 £2

like both the first 2
but nap is t willyjoe purely on leadability factor

it aint easy mdm
but a fair bet but not what was wanted

some in shop some independant

you must be well behind with paddys to get a fair bet

im not but i know a man who is

Where's ebulgery?

im not but i know a man who is

woody putting on these days?

addy

very much looking forward to sprint but prices are right imo

1 bet for me in marathon aero rebel cannot be 6/5, very good run over 680 a few weeks ago, 4 is a railer 500/680 at notts and 6 wide plodding A4/S2, clear run should suffice

Won't be surprised if Swift Leah wins the marathon, the only bet for me tonight.

Addy

lol   addy

sacked woody after he backed the wrong dog by mistake












































only joking  woody

oi oi the galway dog in the first !

Nice litter that out of Kildallon Maid (she was some bitch), really like Fear Big Star that's in the National Puppy Stake too.

top honcho ....

looks the bowlox as well

ballydoyle town ? never ran here

Lovely winner there - Miriam

Nice to see Renee out of Allo Allo looking well. Wonder what he's done with the fallen Madonna with the big boobies?!

probrably in the sausage

Longwood what a twicer!

Sort the sound out ffs

Ivor never seen it ever trap that well befor
2 tour it apart for ep

ivor who ?

How the hell did that do a track record!
Run the track like it never been round!

could have gone quicker ....
thought it was gangly, kept same stride pattern throughout and dd another lap
if it had been a horse its ears would have been flicking up

he was gangly , changed his lead foot going into the bends

Rebel didnt cut in as everyone said, every race is different so too much study not always the best policy. Rebel did however, miss the kick, forced to check all over the place and switching. Still disappointing for my money

**** I need a break from this game how the **** as 6 lead !!
I need a holiday from the game

Rebel didnt cut in as everyone said, every race is different so too much study not always the best policy. Rebel did however, miss the kick, forced to check all over the place and switching. Still disappointing for my money

rebel only didnt cut in BECAUSE he missed the kick imo. studying the first round oaks card now

not a good night
ballymac florek saving grace

longwood fantasy  i thought had won initially until they showed the still



got massive value with romeo,aero and willy

but u cant eat value

but the missus said u can eat willy 

Dont know how you work that one out Addy. Think you just like disagreeing with me and winding me up. So, youre saying, with a level break, Rebel would have been looking at the dog inside him? Dogs rail run up or dont, speed of break irrelevant, imo. More likely he goes up straighter at Notts than Wimbledon, if anything

no woody, if you miss a break and then when you come out of the boxes, the hare is a further 20 yards up, the dog has had longer to see the hare is to his right and therefore is unlikely to dive out left.

woody still won't accept why Aero was a bad value bet, even after the event.

Okay, but dont know about 20 yds up. All happens so quickly though, not 100% sure about your theory, there can be any number of reasons why or why not a dog does something. You can study and study, but anything can happen and often does, on the night. Who studied and predicted the winner would have stopped chasing only to come again in the marathon, for instance? There can be crowding at any point, any time affecting the result too, it's impossible to predict precisely

Incidentally, everyone who studied hard and watched videos over and over again, knew Sawpit would would be bang there early?

woody, I could never have backed the winner but with Aero at odds on why worry. Great value lay as predicted.

Did turn out to be bad value Sparrow, just thought the Capoley form better than that. Didnt expected Rebel to fall out though

Anyway, seems very few on hear had much success, so lots backing bad value. Why do you lot always single out me?

only a mug would watch videos all the time, all you have to do is look at the racecard for 5 minutes, sure they even tell you on the racecard who is expected to win

I think Aero is one of those that you only back at a price and lay when short, a bit like Ayamzagirl although not as dodgy.

Go back and pick on TR, Fatty and PF. It's like school all over again, being bullied!

Why would somebody have a go at me over last nights racing, i didn't have a bet and missed half the races watching Man ****e

seems Sh|tee is blocked

Just a discussion woody, not bullying. You seem to have some sort of persecution complex.

woody they could have backed good value, without much success

i didnt get involved much last night at all, lot of dogs i hadnt seen too much before and that has to add to an element of error being possible when making tissue prices.dont get too worked up, think its banter pulling your p155er half the time

my bets last night.

100 at 10/3 on here droopys vito. +320 post comms.

100 at 13 mays stewart 8pm i think it was - lost +220

marathon, laid 300 of rebel about 4/5, had 200 swift leah and 200 tyrur pudsy, lost 100 on race. rebel would have been about -650 but had to take it on despite thinking it would win more than any other dog if run 1000 times. +120.

final antepost had 150 ew farloe tango at 8s s pinched a bit of place money. +270 all in.

Was a bit bad last night, sorry TR but i was absolutely chuffed Longwood Fantasy got caught, and then them saying on sky it ran a cracker in the Laurels final

The point is you all think youre right all the time about whats value and whats not. It's only opinions. Someone got 7/4 Rebel and the world and his wife made him odds on 4/5, so how can you say he wasnt value at 7/4 Sparrow? All you value freaks arent doing well from what i can see. Maybe Rebel was value without much success, too?

Anyone can back several dogs in a race and lay several dogs in a race. I only go for one. Rubbish my fancies, dont matter. You have 5 running for you though

incredible wasn't it PF that romeo dog has early and wouldn't be the strongest, made 2 lengths on LF on the run-in

I gave my reasons yesterday morning woody on the other thread. When I backed the dog at double figure odds the previous week you would not have considered him.

Seemed much easier to me last night though Sparrow. As it happened, you was right to lay if you did. Dont think you would have been laying 7/4 but you did well laying odds-on? There comes a point when a bets a bet and a lays a lay, i suppose. Laying does always seem easier though. Well done and good luck for the future

woody not saying im right and my tissue is not 100% accurate, all tissues are guestimates, the longevity of time dictates whethere you are right more often than not and there are better juedges than me out there, it would be incredibly arrogant to think all my tissues are factual and correct. rebel at 7/4 probably was big, i had it 5/4 to 100%, means i still thought it would win 44% of the time, when the market is saying it wins 56% of the time and i disagree, i had to take it on.

half the time i dont know what i am backing until the last five minutes when a market to 100% is formed and i play my tissue prices, regardless of whether i think it wins or not. not everyones cup of tea but it is my approach. and i would definitely back 3 in a race if combined i was getting evens say when combined i think it should be a 4/7 chance for example.

dont get all stroppy and take it to heart, its all light banter.

Yeah, good approach Addy. I'm from the old school though. When i started betting, betting exchanges werent even a silicon chip in a computer

The point is woody that I learned something about the dog the previous week. I felt he had to break in front from that draw and this was by no means certain.

You was right Sparrow. What are the winners Shelbourne Park, Saturday, then?

Well so far i took:

Leamaneigh Turbo @ 8s
Borna Gem @ 5/2
Razldazl Will @ 3s
White Soks Roks @ 5/2
Sparta Maestro @ 11/8

not saying they will all win but they where all overpriced in my opinion.

spare some change for a cup of tea addy?

Horrible horrible night here and one of those when you look back im not sure if i'd have the same bets again which is much worse than doing your gonads and being absolutely certain i'd have the same bets,which you can stomach easily,havent had this feeling for a good while and i dont like it one bit!

Woody 80% of people just talk bllx 10% after timers and I bet most have two accounts big in there self up .just look at early prices you get a big difference in there book .thats by guys getting wages end of the day it's all about views and price . But for me marathons and hurdles full of dodges only bet big prices YODA gl

What price will Eden star and lemon Pluto be on Monday who do you fav .will be shock if every one comes back with the same prices

pluto will be fav......

At this stage you could be right Winja, seems that way on Belle Vue form anyway. At best, would much prefer Eden. You only got to look at Derby antepost to see who's expected to do best in the Premier Classic.

Incidentally, if Wimbledon closes will Derby bets already stuck stand, regardless of venue?

For me 6/4 pluto 9/4 star

according to seamus
after the 1st bend ,comes the 2nd bend and then someting called
the turd bend   

what is this please

is it where all the dogs have a sh1t before racing

bets voided on here woody. asked last here.

year.  lol.  ???

the turd bend ... what is this please

near the tree dog 

If Barry Draper is taking young Pluto on, thats good enough for me   

Someone said 6/4 Pluto, 9/4 Eden. It's actually evens Eden and 5/1 Pluto at the moment

5/1 he really is awful