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theres 4 apparently next week at wimbledon.
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i would say about 40 not sure 25 silver ring and 15 main ring mr memory would know
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FOUR!!!!!!!
How many at shelourne...? Whats it all about..? More at a flap.. |
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Shelbourne
Emmet Hegarty - bets straight Bernard Barry - bets straight Yvonne Barry - bets straight Frank Finnegan - bets without 2 Seamus Farrell - bets straight Ted Hegarty - bets straight JP Moran - bets straight Seamus Mulvanny - bets without 1 Jim Fanning / John Murphy - bets straight Tadgh Hegarty - bets straight think i've got them all, used to be quite a few more a couple of years ago |
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Yvonne Barry
Bought I nice dog off of her SF |
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Yeah Yvonne is sound, had some decent dogs.
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S/F ...thats ten bookies at HQ...can remember double that..
Still can remember double the 4 at the Don... Whats next year...? 2...one each side of the hotdog van |
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Yeah hooley - The Doc not there that much any more, then the likes of Sammy Allen, Richard Walsh, Martin Fortune, Big Barry Hogan, Jim McCann, Shane Renville all gone in recent years and you could name add a lot more going back a bit more
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Wimbledon can't hold a candle to White City, in my opinion the best track there ever was. Why is the premier race held at Wimbledon anyway, surely there are better tracks in England ? It doesn't have to be in London either.
I went to Wimbledon last year (I think it was the 1/4's), what a cr*p track, a handful of bookmakers, poor food, no atmosphere and the opposing stand looks like a building site. Apart from that is was OK (a few fav's won that night) ;-) |
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nothing will ever beat the white city your right
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white city worlds greatest track end of
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At the Don due to The GRA holding the rights to THE DERBY..I believe
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the night scurlogue champ run at white city there was 23 books got £40k on
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I was a regular at White City and can only remember SC running there once.
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when i went dog racing in the sixties,there were at least half dozen maybe more bookmakers on 2nd bend also all other bends and both straights at wimbledon and it was in decline then,more bookmakers at the bridge on a thursday afternoon than what you say will be at wimbledon on final night the game at least in london is finished.
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I can remember at least 12 bookmakers at..........Southall
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"SatelliteFlight"................The first time that I went to Shelbourne in the late 1970s, there were 38 bookmakers standing.......I counted them out of curiosity.
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Im afraid i wasn't born Mr. Memory so i'll have to take your word on that
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mr memory how many at the white city
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"Mad dog".........It depends upon the date.
When I first attended on Boxing Day 1952, there would be between 80 to a 100........maybe more. There were three rings...the Cheap Side which extende from the second to third bends,the Main Ring (Entrance 12/6d) & a Middle Ring which was split in two halves either side of the Main Ring (just like Wembley) There were four bookmakers in the Main Ring........Phil Earl, Manny King, Hector Macdonald & Ted Craze. By the 1970s, the numbers had shrunk.....John White, Tom Alsop (Stanley) had entered & I believe that Sid Hales took over Hectors pitch as he had been representing him for a few years. By the time that White City closed, I would imagine that there would be just over 40 there.........including Tony Morris, a late entry. |
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Andrew in Sweden
Joined: 10 Nov 07 Replies: 823 05 Jun 11 20:11 I was a regular at White City and can only remember SC running there once. he ran about 2 weeks after the last derby to be run there .it was his 1 race ngrc .i think the place was full of flapping boys .he had one of e gaskins bitch to beat b w gala smomething .but i took him for a trial he shell a nail .only ken would have run him .both dog and ken where one off s july 84 ish |
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Mr Memory- You mentioned John White in the 70s, would that be the present John White's father. The reason I am interested is that my father clerked for him at White City in the 50s.
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"sparrow"..........Yes, he was Johns father. I believe that his brother was the "top man" in the Main Ring.
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Mr Memory- I only knew one brother, called Siddy who my father also clerked for at Stamford Bridge.
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hard to explain to someone who has not been to the city ,how great it actually was ,don has done its best over the years closing half the stadium has not helped ....
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40,000+ crowd, the practice "Derby Roar" that built-up in the races before the main event until you reached the final itself. The huge cheers that greeted the Finalists as they are introduced to the packed crowd. The parade of the Finalists, the electric atmosophere of expectation building and building whilst the Greyhounds approached the starting traps, the starter deliberately slowing the parade down as they neared the start, nobody absolutely nobody sitting down for the final, the hairs on the back of your neck standing bolt upright, a tingling sensation that flowed over you whilst awaiting the single ring of the bell to signal the start of The Race and the roar beginning and reaching fever pitch long before the hare had reached the traps and "The Off". 30 seconds of an unrelenting cacophany of noise.
Dramatically overstated, no. I attended every Derby Final from 1969, (Sand Star), to the last one in 1984, (Whisper Whishes), and I can assure there is absolutely no exaggeration to the above. I wouldn't have missed one second of any of them. Wimbledon doesn't, never has done and never will compare to The GREAT White City. |
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I'd rather there were none! All the serious punters have "the machine" on their phones. It would be better for the sport if we had an on-course tote monopoly, preferably a low margin one.
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"TheMadGhost......You overlooked the military band marching & countermarching under the spotlights.
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the madghost
40,000+ crowd, the practice "Derby Roar" that built-up in the races before the main event until you reached the final itself. The huge cheers that greeted the Finalists as they are introduced to the packed crowd. The parade of the Finalists, the electric atmosophere of expectation building and building whilst the Greyhounds approached the starting traps, the starter deliberately slowing the parade down as they neared the start, nobody absolutely nobody sitting down for the final, the hairs on the back of your neck standing bolt upright, a tingling sensation that flowed over you whilst awaiting the single ring of the bell to signal the start of The Race and the roar beginning and reaching fever pitch long before the hare had reached the traps and "The Off". 30 seconds of an unrelenting cacophany of noise. Dramatically overstated, no. I attended every Derby Final from 1969, (Sand Star), to the last one in 1984, (Whisper Whishes), and I can assure there is absolutely no exaggeration to the above. I wouldn't have missed one second of any of them. Wimbledon doesn't, never has done and never will compare to The GREAT White City. ---------- i never went to white city - before my time. the way u have written about it, it sounds amazing and i think we all owe the GRA a big thank you for facking the sport up for us. |
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Mr Memory: Must have missed them, too busy studying the form, having and watching great greyhound racing.
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It was so buzzing there.. I think the Lights.. Grass.. massive crowd.. bundles of bookies.. classy dogs.. made it so special.. plus there seemed much more money about in those days, everyone had there little moves for getting a bit extra... but the technology these days as put paid to all the moves people had.....!
But we now have Empty tracks.. no tracks.. everyone is Potless.. low grade racing is a fact of life.. Great thing this Progress Lark !!!! |
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BELFAST TRACKS DUNMORE & CELTIC
HAD AT LEAST 80 BOOKMAKERS STANDING PER MEETING GOING BACK TO 40s 50s 60s AND ALL DOING A BRISK TRADE. |
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clapton...you are spot on.....one factor in the sports now rapid demise is the end of "cash" in the economy. Noone gets paid in it anymore and the
fact is that the bit "spare" people had was for betting and buying dogs. Theres a lot more competition for the leisure pound now and sadly the dogs is being run into the ground by stadia owners who have no interest in anything other than their personalised number plates and 100 grand a year salaries..... |
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Sparrow,Billy White was on top at White City,as Mr.Memory said.Harry White who made a book at the points and the races was another brother.
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"sparrow".............Paul Green has put a photograph on the internet of John White betting at the Races on the James Ford joint.
The clerk is wearing glasses & has a full head of dark hair....could this be your Father? |
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Bang right clapton, `Great Thing This Progress Lark`.. The powers in Greyhound racing could not have made a better job in ruining the game if they Tried ! And Governments past and present have also made a great job in `Nailing everyone to the floor`..with nobody having a move and not being able to get any Cash !
Poxy Technology is killing everything. |
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Mr Memory - I will have a look, although I think he only worked for John at White City.
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It's surprising to see Greyhound racing descend so much in popularity, while sports like darts thrive.
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Mr Memory- Where might I find this picture?
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John had a a few of the great clerks working for him...Ronnie Richards,George Gunn and a guy called Basil ...add in Nicky Newton to that list...saw young John at Goodwood a few weeks ago.....he looked really well and fit...and his cousin Harry a few weeks before...ditto...
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