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what would u like
the morning dogs
the afternoon dogs
or the night dogs
plz be a bit more specfic

Mornin noon and night dogs would be nice :D

Eclipse in the betting shops tonight. Cracking card. Most of the top dogs

Is the Eclipse 2 or 3 qualify from each heat?

e mail where ?

I would like bags pics - all of them - surely in the 21st century i should be able to view races ?!

You can't get Bags pics online Surgeon. Evening pics you can, but the bookmakers wont allow BAGS outside of shops.

I think 3 qualify tonight and 2 from 3 semi finals

the big 3 wont have a say in matters soon if the Gambling Commision reccomendations come true!

Thanks clac. No idea what the gambling comm' are proposing but can't see the big 3 funding the races for them to be shown online

Bags will be finished if bookmakers dont get their way.

I used to have a link - someone must have a link

The weave the general opinion was that there was going to to be funding for bags from another source that would rival or dwarf what the big 3 pay for the product

Sit in the betting shop tonight as i'm doing. I'll probably be the only one there.

It just doesnt add up. If this 'other source' are to fund showing an alternative to BAGS, what do they benefit from doing so? Unless it's betfair or a TV station? Had the rumours of ATR doing so, but nothing ever happened there. Which tracks would they use? Aside from the 6 bookmaker owned

i got the impression the GC were kinda going to dictate to the bookies who should be allowed access to the pictures etc, not the bookmakers being in control, racing channels were mentioned especially over the winter months

I still have a German link,

I wish I got a pound for everytime I get sucked into reading one of these live picture threads.
Roll on next year.

"now where.............."

You are clueless.
Go and look up the phrase "Intellectual Property".
Now look up "Ownership of IP".
Now explain how an owner of IP can be forced to do as you are suggesting.

Then go and lie down and have a nice rest.
Good man.

overboard!!! the dogs are not owned by the bookmakers, many tracks are not owned by the bookmakers, and trainers are not owned by bookmakers!!! A rival service not named BAGS is very viable if the industry pulls together and realise that the bookmakers are milking a product that they pay very little into ,a dn have reduced to a farce with restrictions etc!!
A tote or exchange operated service with pics available online or through a racing channel is realistic and not far away!

Could not agree more. A partnership with Turf TV/RUK seems a very obvious target for Greyhound racing. RUK have lot's of spare air time in the winter evenings for a start.

What tracks do you suppose would join a rival service?

any that are offered more money than the big 3 pay them, at a guess?!!!!!!

Dream on.

sanity the tracks get f all for bags in comparison to what the books make from the product!! There are many tracks not on the bags service that should be and quite a few on Bags that really shouldnt be!!! Some competition to bags may make the bookmakers stop taking the p1ss out of punters!

Would it not be agood idea if some of these racecoures,that are not dual purpose tracks i.e flat and jumps to submit plans to have a dog track on there land and race maybe 3 times a week,and this would surely give all us dog fans a bit of hope.Dundalk works very well.Just need good locations,and im sure it would take off
Just athought with all the doom and gloom surrounding the sport.
Maybe the STOW campaign if it falls on deaf ears could look at this being an option.

How would this new channel succeed when the previous one and the one before that both failed ?

If you had a betting shop would you take a bet from any track not regulated by bags.

sanity there would be no need, there would either be a tote for tracks or exchange only, who needs the big 3????

No punters.

sanity?? are there no punters on here then?? no punters that want to bet dogs but get restricted by the vermin?? get real no proper punters use the shops anymore, would make no difference

some / most tracks survive on the bags money, i doubt many would risk jumping ship to join a rival service, in case it didnt work out.

weaver there are loads of tracks that are not on bags, never have been and never will be, they would welcome any income generated, half the bags tracks are ben t so too see some proper racing not influenced by the vermin would make a pleasant change!

Who's paying the track to open.

and everyone one of thjose tracks not on bags, wants to be!

Dont get me wrong, i'd love it to happen and spent the last few years trying to make it happen, but fear it never will.

Sept 09 for someone who have just joined this forum you talk utter rubbish. By the way to say bags tracks are**you can be had for libel.

sanity would u like to explain why a certain track was taken off the service not long ago?? Or perhaps why a certain trainer and track management member are no longer at newcastle?? or maybe why there are restrictions all over the country on bets accepted on bags??? will await your response!!!

You got it !! Bags stand no nonsense any thing in proper they stamp it out.

Have you gone to bed?

Or back to asda shelf stacking.

are u sure abt that sanity?? u not seen the shows from a few tracks lately that are put through?? and how comes a certain track has now got its contract back with the same rm etc??

ps so by restricting bets they are saying oh well ch e ating is ok , we will just mimimise the loss to ourselves?? get in the real word old son!!

No bookies willing to stand with only a small crowd in attendance if you think it's that easy give it a go with your own money.

You keep saying tracks are **ing be careful they monitor these forums.

sanity there is no need for the 3 books to stand at the tracks is there?? when they are not taking more than a few hundred a day and cant get all dogs in the book per race then it makes them standing pointless and thus you get a meaningless/untrustworthy show!! Bags needs to be on a basis of a tote retention or something similar so that the weight of money around the country for dogs gives a strong market and confidence in the product!!

Tote do you think people would bet on the tote.You said poor attendance making shows worthless so who's betting on the tote.

tote or exchange betting is the way forward!! no one goes to the track as cant get a bet on, no one goes to a shop as cant get a bet on!!! over 40k traded on some bags races at certain tracks, no need for 3 blokes to stand at a bags meeting earning f all,

When them tracks are closed what's going to happen to your exchange then you short sited clown.

sanity why would any track close please?? as stated more money than bags would be available to the tracks, less overheads. No one wants to see tracks shutting but if the big 3 are taking a max £10 at certain tracks do you really think they will keep paying for the product?? They no most dog business is on the exchanges etc, its time a rival product was put in place, because whats blatantly obvious is the game is dying a slow death at present!!

a couple of things to bear in mind - Who would finance these tracks?? You need a minimum of 3 bookmakers to return an SP, to then be run under GBGB rules.

That is where the rules need to be changed weaver?? as many people know the 3 books making a show at the track are not able to produce an sp reflecting the dogs chances, through not being able to lay every dog in a race!! That leads to false or mis representitive shows being sent out to shops etc , and then accusations of mis practice when dogs are way over/under the show here

now wheres or is it clown head do you think bookmakers lay every horse in a race if you do get back to school you little cretin.

sanity at the tracks no they dont, however they have more than bob and ian there with 2 lady gadivers punting to form a market. They also have there own reps on rails etc. Most races are priced up early by the big 3 and on here so thats where the sp comes from. Do u think it comes from the track books then independantly?

Now wheres that switch

Nothing personal but you are clueless and write the biggest load of bollards on this forum and that takes some doing.

Something need to be done to secure the future of this great sport,but those in charge are not doing FA about it.

Its nearly 2010 and still we can not get live or delayed streamed pictures of this sport and we never will.

A satellite channel with a tote pool will never work,as stated before the others did not.

As for moaning and accusation about certain tracks and trainer,Its mainly you.

If anybody things the sport is**or corrupt its simple don't have a bet.

thinks

Interesting how some believe the 'kncok-out' punters betting on mobiles are 'shrewd' and something to be admired. I have no view but its all related, and doesnt help anyone.

surgeon 16 Nov 16:17


Where do i get them please ?

dvd..next best thing

dvd ??

not much fun 2 weeks later !

The Weaver. The three Bookmakers in attendance is a BAGS requirement, nothing to do with GBGB who are only interested in the rules of racing being adhered too.

So an evening meeting could have 1 or even no on-course bookmakers? and be a licensed race?

Im certain at Sheffield ONCE there was only one book standing BUT IF I AM WRONG I WILL STAND CORRECTED.

There have been a number of races in recent times with no S.P return, these races are still legitimate. So the answer to your question is yes.

Stainforth (Doncaster) had onlt 2 books for ages, and an SP was always returned.
Mind you they would take a lump, and remember Harry having £20k on one once and they never blinked.

Looks like nothing has changed in 10 years - still only 2 books