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Last 3 races were not on BEGS (12,13,14), literally two punters in front of the books for these races, the last race winner was absolutley thrown and shouldve been 1/10 by all rights,1/2 was massive value nearly went had 200/400£ macer with Chris.
Seriously whats the point in sticking these last 3 races on ? its only giving the track and unfairly the bookmakers a bad name, just have the BEGS racing and scrap these races ?, if these races must happen why not stick some imagination into them a graded sprint, or a 659 Hcap ?, give punters some variety, last nights card was 14 462's, no wonder punters (and bookies) have had enuff half way thru. |
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If they just have a BEGS card, then they can't charge admission fees (well it is frowned upon by BEGS). So they put the extra races on as an excuse to charge.
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im not sure of the politics check
as i say if they must happen |
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check sucker , that is an interesting point u make RE the extra races so that they can charge cos the owners/management/FRANKLINS are the greediest f**kers on the planet bar none !
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You're up early Ed, we must be going to Southwell today. See you shortly.
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Went to Great Yarmouth for a 2 day break with the wife and kids, took them to the dogs on the last evening, kids loved it, but the percentage that the 3 books were working to and also not starting betting till the dogs were approaching you have to think they only have themselves to blame, and as for teh track, the cost of a small diet coke was well over the top.
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GO ON STRIKE ,THEY WANT YA THERE THEN TAKE THE RISE
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ASK EM FOR 150 A NIGHT THEY CANT WORK WITHOUT YA...YA**ERS
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14 K A WEEK THERE GETTING LINING THERE OWN POCKETS WHILE YA TAKING 600 A NIGHT
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BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY ,PEOPLE WILL JUST TELL YA TO SHUT UP MOANING IF YA DONT DO OWT ABOUT IT ....YA SEE ED ITS BECOMES A LONG PLAYING RECORD THATS STUCK
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the last 2 or 3 races after the begs has finished have become littered with trial dogs, ex season **es,ex lame and ex resting because the begs boys dont want unexposed dogs on their beloved service, hence where you used to get one or at most two of these "difficult to grade dogs" per race you are now getting 4, 5 or even all 6 in these mickey mouse end of card events.
the books are obviously wary of this type of runner and when a race is almost entirely made up of them the percentages are going to look bad. agree with you burger last race winner was value at 1/2, strung out like 3 mile chasers at sedgefield when they crossed the winning line! |
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Still no excuse for 167%
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go to limerick 240% on one race the other night.
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limerick always very bad two wrongs don,t make a right still no excuse for 167%
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i fully appreciate the 167 looks bad but to be honest you would not have laid 3 of the runners at double the price they were returned, someone once told me the only % you can count are the ones you actually lay.
at the end of the day the punters wont bet on these races that are put on to finish off the cards as they are minefields for bookies and punters alike. |
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nigel flowers opening specialltys 169% at coventry
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If the**lost its contract with bags over the bookmakers ,why were ladbrokes there at every meeting backing dogs to large ammounts of money,that must mean they were taking bets there .
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If the**lost its contract with bags over the bookmakers ,why were ladbrokes there at every meeting backing dogs to large ammounts of money,that must mean they were taking bets there .
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Bet on half the races most nights?
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I have been going greyhound racing for 30 years and it greatly saddens me to see the current state of the game. The sad fact is that there are too few new people attracted to the sport. Gone are the days when on big nights or bank holidays tracks would run out of programmes because they had under-estimated the attendance. Of the new blood that do go, the majority do not bet with the bookmakers. The last meeting I attended was a non-bags evening meeting at Hove. There were three bookmakers and probably six punters, or at least 6 people standing outside looking at the books prices being marked up as the dogs neared the traps. It wouldn't make a jot of difference to their turnover if they bet to 106% or 160%.
Is there a solution? The tracks themselves survive on bags contracts until a property developer comes along and makes an offer they cannot refuse. As for the bookmakers, owners and trainers I cannot see a way ahead. Prize money is pitiful, connections cannot get a decent bet on and bookmakers have no punters to form a real market. R.I.P. Greyhound racing. I am just grateful to be old enough to have wonderful memories when you were alive and kicking. |
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^^^^^ I'll second everything you've said.
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an excellent post and valid opinions
think a big problem with dogs is it takes studying people under 25 maybe even 30 now in general dont wanna work hard to get a winner. would rather stick a score in roulette machine for instant and easy bet. no inclination to learn about dogs or horses, but would happily do a ton betting roulette or a tenner on ten team football acca that cant win as they hoping for at least 9 of the biggest shocks in history to happen within hours of each other. to save betting you need to change peoples views on life and how money should be earned/won its a GIRO generation now |
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Oh so true Please remove this thread from Yarmouth to a general discussion sure it will continue big time.
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All bookmakers should be allowed to use Betfair on course. I completely understand why bookmakers wouldn't want to lay over the odds than what it is on Betfair. Why would a bookie want to lay a 4 for 1 to a 'shrewdie' when its 4.5 or 4.6 on Betfair? If it wins "it's a long way back from there son"*
On the other hand, I have absolutely no sympathy for bookmakers who are given the option to use Betfair at tracks, not take advantage of this, and then moan when a punter only bets with them when it's unders on "the machine". *Quoted from Magical Feast... :p |
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only shifty "good looking geezers" stood on top the stairs can use Betfair on course imo
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I'm ok then
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heard the yarmo betting ring was heaving last night it got up to 9 punters during the S1 !
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