|
By:
all markers are different sizes ,there must be 1000,s upon 1000,s of cases depending on how the markers placed and replaced that if not the length the angle of the putt is changed,some players do it that quick who no,s if there stealing a few mm,changing the line ever so slightly especially on the longer putts
|
|
By:
afterb tigers antics over the years micko,s and fowlers this season its ridiculous to claim golfers are there own referees ,they bend the rules more than any other sportsmen
|
|
By:
yes Mickleson's recent manipulation of the rules in the wgc event was ridiculous
|
|
By:
No one would have known??
You've got to admit that isn't 100% true .... the e-mailer and anyone they contacted would have. Minimal perhaps but accurate. But I do think once accepted by the scorers the score should stand. If indiscretions come to light after that then it would be the player alone who would take the flack. |
|
By:
The Rules Official who broke the news to Lexi on course said today ( I would not have been able to sleep that night if I did not carry out the ruling)
Says it all! No way after scorecard accepted by same Rules Official previous night that they should be allowed to retrospectively punish her, and FOUR shots just absurd, even if TV pics caught her kicking it up the green 10 yds! |
|
By:
Rc- Not sure Humour and Condescending are entirely the same thing!
Dont need to be so touchy fella! ![]() |
|
By:
heard one the week before ,when euan corrected the person who,d emailed in,but how many times are people contacting the officials and are getting knocked back that we dont no about,there,ll be busybodys been forensic over every minute of coverage phoning in 10 times a tournament
|
|
By:
no doubt its a severe ruling but , if she deliberately replaced her ball in the wrong place to suit herself i have no sympathy as i hate cheats.i never saw it so i don't know thats the case but some most people think she did it to avoid a spike mark , f thats the case she got what she deserved
|
|
By:
its not just the ruling been severe but in the same tourney its possible it could benefit someone who,s hit it into 18 grandstands got 18 free drops,sank putts helped by markings on the ball,lined up by his caddy,etc,etc,
anyone remember tiger winning once when he hit 100 yds over the green down a chimmney into a pan of soup in the kitchen and gets a drop next to the green |
|
By:
Gonna e-mail the FA next time I see that useless twot Theo Walylcott in an England shirt get him subbed''''''''''''''''
Brainless WPGA |
|
By:
therhino 04 Apr 17 14:37
My sympathy is with the rules officials. They have been put in a difficult position. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Disagree with this. If they chose to do nothing, no one would have ever known a thing. This debacle is entirely their own creation. My understanding is they didn't email in but put the comments on the fans page of the lpga site. I presume this is public and may have been seen by others. They couldn't chose to do nothing once they had been informed of a blatant rules breach which was backed up by the footage. At this point they had to follow the rules set down which they did correctly. You could question the time scale involved. You can argue that the ruling is unfair that is subjective but it is the rule. The 2 shot penalty for signing an incorrect scorecard when the card was signed in good faith in my view should be scrapped but the officials had little choice here. I am surprised that Thompson has not received more criticism for her actions. She clearly goes to tap it in the decides to mark and within a 5 second period picks it up and puts it down in a different position in pretty much one move. The more I see it the more I think she cheated - moving the ball to gain an advantage. |
|
By:
Leading the tourney, a major, on 2nd last hole of 3rd round,well aware of Tv cameras following her every move, as she is in lead 3rd round,Major ,17th green.
You seriously think that she thought I AM GOING TO MOVE THIS BALL 6mm to make my 12 inch putt easier??? Unbelievable...where was the advantage for a start??? This nonsense about a pimple on green! She made a simple mistake, lost concentration,brain fade,whatever. She is now being accused of all sorts, instead of being a Major champion again. Fair enough if she marked wrongly a TWO shot penalty if that is the rules but they the OFFICIALS accepted her bloody scorecard and to go back and change it way over a day later is just a joke. Golf a laughing stock again! Laughing stock! |
|
By:
Sophie, Luv.
Just a bit of banter ... a bit more subtle than calling somebody a muppet. ... but if that's the language you understand ... whatever. |
|
By:
jedi the footage is clear. She goes to tap in decides to mark and all in the space of a matter of seconds picks it up and puts it down in a different spot.
Only she knows why she did that but it was clearly a breach of the rules. |
|
By:
LOL
![]() Clearly language you also understand seen as you reciprocated!! ![]() |
|
By:
Theres only one reason why you mark the ball , lift it 3 inches, dont clean it and put it back in the wrong position, all within about 5 seconds. Bang to rights i think..
|
|
By:
I dont think many people are arguing about that North Berwick.
Imo she definitely didn't replace the ball in the right place-only she really knows the reason she did what she did. She may genuinely have not realized what she had done. Her playing partners and match official didn't see anything untoward. However, it is the way in which it was dealt with that is ridiculous-especially the time delay and the ludicrous (albeit correct) extra penalty for not signing the card properly, despite it being accepted on the day. Golf really does have to sort out its rules. Why they have to wait until 2019 to introduce the new rules that most golfers think are reasonable is bizarre. |
|
By:
Why not say they shouldn't be allowed to pick up the ball on the green as it just delays the speed of the game when marking and cleaning etc. Obviously sometimes there will be mud/sand on the ball or perhaps another player's ball may be on his or her line - as for the mud it is just an unfortunate aspect of the game occasionally & will equal itself out for everyone over time & if another player is on the line why not let that player putt out even if they are closer.
If nothing else may reduce the slowness & time spent on the green by players & avoids the problem of the other day |
|
By:
You can debate the two stroke penalty for signing the wrong card but she simply at best broke the rules of golf and at worst cheated , only she will know this. It's as clear as day though she did not mark the ball correctly and I find it hard to believe that she didn't know what she was doing
|
|
By:
micko agrees with me in a press conference,he says he no,s lots of golfers who move the ball 2,3,4 inches to avoid marks on the green when,marking or replacing the ball, without their playing partners saying anything or calling them out
so much for it been the cleanest ,most honest sport out there,can of worms openned |
|
By:
players will be wetting themselves this week .close ups everywhere watching players mark or replace the ball,expect carnage again
|
|
By:
mickleson has stepped in with a shovel
![]() A number of players on the PGA Tour are "intentionally loose" in marking their ball, according to three-time Masters champion Phil Mickelson. |
|
By:
imo,
the idea that players who use never used stances,line of sight,etc,etc to gain an advantage 300 yds from the hole,arnt going tp pinch the odd inch here and there on a green 30,40,50 ft from the holes is laughable imo,especialy those not on the live tv pics,fighting for the cut,their card,careers etc, this incident and micko have just put it out there |
|
By:
Mickelson wont endear himself to his colleagues with these comments.
Especially with his "interpretation" of the rules in Mexico |
|
By:
its just the madness of golf rarely they seem obcessed with anything that gets you closer to the hole ,but standing water on greens, water in bunkers around greens,sprinkle heads around greens etc,etc,and you can get free drops backwards ,sidewards which maybe further away but greatly change the angle etc and make the shot far easier
|
|
By:
The might need to introduce something like the referee uses in snooker to mark the ball when he picks it up to clean it.
Too many players throw a coin somewhere near the ball and pick it up. And they need to put a time limit on when a player can be penalised, like once the next round starts previous rounds are history. |
|
By:
Well done Phil Mickelson. Nice to see someone with the bollux to tell it how it really is.
|
|
By:
Its a massive decision to call out another player for cheating. If one of Thompsons playing partners had complained that she cheated when marking the ball and by chance there was no TV coverage of the incident then the player complaining is in real trouble. It is one persons word against another and, just like most whistleblowers , they will be ostracised by other players and the golf authorities for being a troublemaker and everyone will feel sorry for the cheat.
|
|
By:
more to the point..her fellow pros(NO double entendres here guys) know the SP
if this were not to be an aberration(and it was pretty brazen not a tiny 'mistaken' fraction) just wonder what their attitude towards her from hereonin will be not so much on the course where it will be business as usual but off of it and if it's pretty icy and negative whether it will affect her as she seems quite a cheery girl personally even tho' i now feel she trangressed wittingly i don't wish her any ill and would hope she learns and grows from this without any undue rancour |
|
By:
Philip speaking out in this manner after his antics/shenanigans/cheating? earlier in the season is absolutely astounding to me!!
If he wasnt cheating he was bullying/intimidating at best, and some of the capers he indulged in had many many viewers/commentators thorougly embarrassed!! Difference is he is thee most popular golfer in US!!No one had the balls to call him out, now here he is calling out others..Unbelievable!! Far far worse than remarking your ball incorrectly by 6mm on a 12 inch putt.. |
|
By:
more like 12 inches on a 6mm putt
![]() |
|
By:
you,ll never no
but when the rules official approached her do you think deep down she had an idea what it was about before she was told,wonder if there was any locker room talk the night before and on the range before the final round,she didnt seem shocked and just shouted 4 stroke penalty to her caddie on the pics i saw |
|
By:
Mickleson is popular with the media and fans he seems to get along the younger guys but it wasn't so long ago he was one of the most unpopular out there. He didn't get the nickname figjam for nothing.
|
|
By:
Did she have an idea what it was about before she was told
No. |
|
By:
What an absolute fiasco. This is no way to run a major sport. When is a round actually completed and the score confirmed as being final? So, what happens if someone emails in the day after a tournament has finished to say they spotted the winner breaching the rules during their final round? The sport of golf reached a low with the Dustin Johnson affair at the US Open last year but it has plumbed new depths now. The people who run the game need to act very quickly before we have another disaster.
|
|
By:
The round was completed but not the competition.. much like other sports which play four quarters.
At the end of the day she got caught..... and dems de rules. |
|
By:
|
|
By:
gentlemanjohn:Did she have an idea what it was about before she was told No
mr meagi:Did she have an idea what it was about before she was told Yes It you have no TV licence, do you shiver when the door bell rings. And then the tears start...........Guilty. |
|
By:
Point taken, Rhino, but golf is different.
The emphasis is on players to police themselves unlike other sports where the culture is different A bit out of left field here but you could compare it with a thief only being prosecuted if he gets caught in the act. Which puts cheating at golf on the same level as committing a crime. Either way it's all daft ... all they are doing is knocking a ball around a field. However if you are betting on it you have to accept that the rules are applied as they stand .. which they were. No doubt though the rules will change because of this. Starting(?) to ramble now but one last thought (it may already have been) mentioned. Scrutiny should be equal across the field, which it isn't because tv focuses on the leaders. |
|
By:
Nothing to see here....move on ffs
|