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Lexi Thompson 4 shot penalty
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This was blatant cheating. She was going to tap it in and saw the ball was lying in a small indentation. The only reason she then marked the ball was so she could move it out of the indentation when replacing it. Maybe she has done it before or maybe not. Well done to that viewer as if she had got away with it this time i am in no doubt she would have done it again.
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You must have a helluva telly picture - I just looked at the video on the BBC website & didn't see the indentation you mention - a 4 shot penalty is extremely harsh imo & the severity of it far outweighs any crime
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just been reading the posters on the beeb re the incident
i now feel,tho' i don't really want to,that the 're-placing' was to avoid an indent or spike mark and she was somewhat sneaky about it..hope that is not the case but a lot of ppl are convinced it was the double penalty was just too harsh and they MUST end this retrospective from the next day back BS let us NOT have this happen again,end of they should enact this immediately |
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NORTH BERWICK • April 3, 2017 7:01 PM BST
This was blatant cheating I'm with you on this NB, there was what I think was a small indentation and her actions display an attempt to consciously gain an unfair advantage, Well done to the tv person. |
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It is not a case of she may have done it again, she does it regularly.
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end of day,couldn't they have someone review whole days play,that would sort it out
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THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED...
http://www.golfpunkhq.com/news/article/sabotage- AND NOTE former Ryder Cup captain Bernard Gallacher told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that "the LPGA had the power to dismiss that person (the TV viewer), they should have completely ignored it". |
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Racing Cert
Im a bloke, so unless YOU are that way inclined do not need to call me LUV! HHH.... Muppet! |
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Want a conspiracy theory, may well have been a fellow pro who had someone phone or email in. I don't believe you could play regularly with her and not notice it, I don't watch much woman's golf but noticed her do the same thing earlier in that round.
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I'm ok with the initial 2 shot penalty but the further 2 shot penalty for signing for the wrong score is utterly crazy.
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so it WAS you then..trebor
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This thread has now gone to the ridiculous!!
Deary ****g me. 4 shot penalty when leading a major a day late and half way through her final round.FAIR? Give me a break! Love to hear all you smug clowns if some of your hard earned was on in lets just say the Masters and say DJ is affected,a whole raft of different opinions then thats for bloody sure! Many on there high horse on here because were not invested and woke up to it this morning! Only a few were actually watching it unfold live and able to get a true reflection on events! Fact is Golf is a huge loser again today and looks thoroughly STUPID,AGAIN.... Acknowledge the ****g problem talk to her but ffs let them play,Interfering nonsense... And NOT in the spirit of the wonderful game they all talk of! DISGRACEFUL DECISION...... No matter how it is dressed up or explained! |
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Trebor/ Which Hole did she do it on mate???
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Yes but Suzann made me do it!!
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I remember Pod getting disqualified for not signing his card. 4 shots seems harsh , but they know the rules.
Her sponsors must be happy, they would not have got half the publicity had she won. |
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I am not sure which hole as I was not really watching it, and when I first same the replay of 17 last night thought it must have been that hole, but unless they went off much earlier in the 3rd round than the last round it could not have been, because I went to bed about 1am, think they where around about the end of front 9?
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Is that a bloke in drag presenting this program on C4 about Trumpy?? If it isnt boy is she ####
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Fook me it is! Abi Austen,used to be a bloke in the British Army!Now clearly a female reporter!Nice one!
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Trebor, not doubting you, if you say you thought you saw her do it earlier in the round, then I believe you. But that still doesn't prove she does it regularly and, as someone pointed out, you couldn't do such a thing regularly and not pick up a name for it. Someone will spot it sooner or later and it will get talked about, thats what golf is like.
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Fair enough, change regularly too done it before, but I have never seen her play half a dozen holes other than watching the finish last night after she got the penalty.
It is not that uncommon a thing to happen on the tours, whenever you see a player having trouble replacing a ball it is often because they do not want to replace it in a small indentation, and to small for TV pics to pic up sometimes. Got a golf ball in the house? try marking it and moving it as much as she did and it is too much not to notice, her only defence is that she stands to the side to mark it, but even then it difficult not to notice it I feel. |
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at the end of the day,her peers on tour WILL know whether it was an aberration or not
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here's pod leading Abu Dhabi , DQ ,cost him £millions
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Bh-ZVAz48 |
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It's wimmins golf.....................WHO CARES........
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What I found odd was after she picked it up, there was no cleaning of the golf ball, even quickly with her fingers, the ball was just replaced immediately 1 inch closer to her.
She even went to tap it in, then changed her mind and marked it. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSIXlwHRR7M
to anyone who hasn't seen it. |
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I dont think that's all that odd really, lots of players mark their ball close to the hole and replace it so that logo is in position they want it, or ball mark is in line with putter or stuff like that. It can be a bit annoying but i guess they're just being methodical old so and sos.
Does look a bit unusual alright the way she seems to pause before deciding to mark it. But there's nothing conclusive about that either way, only she can say why she took the action she did. |
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but the realigning of a mark such as the logo doesn't seem to be the motive by marking the ball.
the position of the logo has slightly changed but not significantly, and when lining up markings you do that from behind the ball to the target, she never did this. It was also done very quickly and the ball doesn't move in her hand for alignment reason. So why did she mark the ball. I am not saying she is guilty or innocent just that it does seem very very odd. |
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I agree its a valid question. But its one only she can answer, I think she will address it at some stage if she hasn't already.
I dont think you can say she was purposely moving it out of an indentation, as some people have claimed, you just cant tell that from the footage. Actually, what you can clearly see is a dimple in the green about six inches from her ball, closer to the hole, while the area around her ball and marker looks clean to the naked eye. |
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I firstly felt very sorry for her.
However, this is the best footage I can see and quite clearly there is an indentation in front of her ball; hence why she never tapped it in. She then moves the ball to the front of the indentation. The link below slows it down. Somebody said she has form for this but surely that is only heresay. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2017/apr/03/is-this-a-joke-golfer-lexi-thompson-in-disbelief-after-four-stroke-penalty-video |
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Was there in play on here on this , if so how low did lexi trade
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Mentioned on the Carnage thread
No one wants to see this happen especially when leading. For the record always liked Thompson's tenacity but officials where borderline about DQ her. Of more eyebrow raising concern was the Lockeroom chatter among competitors,none of which will say a thing...publicly.. but you get the picture. Put it to rest Thompson and mark it correctly(as per the rules). |
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Jedi Sophie,
Some people don't get humour and you are apparently one of them. I was being condescending, you muppet. And judging from your posts it is you that has issues with sexuality. Hope you get better, luv. |
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Plenty of opinion on here without reference to the rules.
Rule 34 worth a look. 1b/4 worth a look by dint of the principle of prior knowledge it refers to. In this case there is no penalty if the competitor did know he was in breach. And yet lexi gets the 2 shot pen for signing the card even though she did not know she was in breach. One area of complexity though is that we (mostly) play 18 hole comps the pros are playing 72. Minefield. My sympathy is with the rules officials. They have been put in a difficult position. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Don't know what lexi was thinking. Brain fade, habit? Who knows? |
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Questions need to be asked about who at the LPGA was privy to the viewers email and involved in the decision to penalise her 4 shots as there was a wave of money to lay her at fairly high prices in the time immediately before she was informed of the penalty.
Something stinks. |
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if you were going to move your ball slightly to avoid something on the green you could do it 100,s of times without drawing attention to it,if you do it as you arrive on the green and loads probably do,
you could have all sorts of marks on your ball,a putter with lines ,flashing lights and a spirit level,a caddy lying on the floor behind the ball linning you up and nothings said,golf is banana,s, theres umpteen officials with every group the easy answer is to get them to replace mark balls and any error is not down to the golfer or his caddy golfs that ludicrous that you could lift clean and place within a scorcard length 30 times in a round and end up winning because someones moved a ball a mm,saw harrington win an open once when he missed the green a dozen times but with a nudge ,here and nudge there from the gallery the ball always came back onto or towards the green |
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I think the real problem here was that when she marked her ball she was not behind the ball she marked it from side on not lined up with the hole and it looks like the coin was maybe further behind the ball than normal when she remarks the ball she then seems to line it up with the hole (the ball is moved sideways). To me this was probably an optic confusion state
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My sympathy is with the rules officials.
They have been put in a difficult position. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Disagree with this. If they chose to do nothing, no one would have ever known a thing. This debacle is entirely their own creation. |
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exactly rhino
the thing that annoys me is the 2 shot penalty for signing for a wrong score that she couldn't possibly have known about and after the Officials had accepted her score themselves |