No stretchers left very nice can sit back a nd relax now,perfect end to the week a destruction job..

Unlucky with evans horse looked different class at finish..

4.50 wolves

Elysian prince was a little bit of an eyecatcher last time out after 14 month break,end of 2014 had looked progressive when winning in October/November then runner up to the progressive persona grata.Reappeared on jan 25th this year sat out the back with toga tiger,jock was essy on him in last 2 furlongs and with normal progression would expect him to finish infront of toga tiger.
I wouldn't be overconfident as this race on paper looks a better race horses like stetchworth and miss minuity have previous form in better grade races but there appears to be ? on a lot of the runners.In 2014 won a race in Chantilly having lots of 70+ horses behind conceding weight so with trainer that has decent strike rate on aw,he's worth a small bet in this class, although a slight drop in grade next time out if no show looks worth following..

Elysian prince 8/1 sportsbook 7/1 generally

+29% at sp!!

Winter Derby

A very weak looking winter derby grendisar hasn't finished out of the first two in last 7 runs over c/d and may well even win again in a weak renewal,there don't seem to be many new horses with much potential in the race I get the impression its going to be a desperate finish with the field finishing close up.There maybe a little bit of value in Battalion he has finished behind grendisar 3 times,although got left last and was making ground at finish behind don't be the other two races ben beaten fair and square.There could be a slight angle wioth battalion coming back after a break last season ran 6th in the race after 4 month break,also in previous season after 5 month break returned to win.The break from December to the end of February should suit,he's still only had 19 lifetime runs and only 6 on the aw so could be more to come in what looks a weak renewal he could be the valu at 12/1,the 5 runs at lingfield returned sps 4/1,7/1/11/4 and 9/2.There's virtually nothing unexposed in the race bar festive fare 12/1 could easily be 6-7/1 on the day!!!

Battalion 12/1 ppower/sjames/sportsbook

thats your problem , you never admit having a loosing day , 2 winners from 7 at 4/5 and 9/4 and the 9/4 shot you dutched so how the funk can you say you were strong on it,and dont forget your loosing rfc,s  loon

so your saying you won today if so your a funkin magician

3.40 swell

Zaeem improving at the age of 7 ran one of the best times of the season penultimate run at swell probably equivalent to anything that has rin in tomorrows race, has been beaten since behind a few of these that definitely wasn't the fortm shown previously.This is an even toughrer race but the 8/1 is far to big to not at lesst have a small bet even if progress may have bottomed out,in what looks a wide open race,probably would've been nearer to 9/2 if you took last run away..

Zaeem 8/1 sportsbook/365

great thread

3.05 swell

An impossible looking handicap put afkar on here on sunday could well come back and run well in this race based on penulitimate run,similarly a more speculative bet would be the rag Moonlight venture very hard to catch right nowadays just seems stuck on a mark he can't win off in high 60s,probably joining the cnor dore stable has regressed him and he races them so often they are very difficult to back from the stable.There is a slight angle with one race this season though,beat greyfriarschorista in a seller there was a handicap run on the same day won with Llewellyn running .91 quicker but Moonlight venture would have a massive 17 pound turnaround on those weights and alpha tauri 4th in Llewllyns handicap they would come out around the same time.That was on slow going that day and tomorrow I expect the surface will be desperate with temps plummeting -9 degrees forecast so that might be a slight + for moonlight venture and will undoubtedl;y not favour some of the horses in the race you tend to get at least half the field not acting on the surface when it's really slow.If the race 2 days ago hasn't had an affect then he would look overpriced just purely based on that run on slower going,it's an optimistic bet with such a short break but at these prices then worth a few coppers..
He has two ways of running will either be tailed off or running on strongly at finish llewlleyns 10s and Alpha tauris 9s I wouldn't have looked at him twice but with the surface looking like riding deep he will go on it if sundays run hasn't taken its toll..

Moonlight venture 20/1 365/lads/skybet..

Thanks for that one, didn't manage 20's but got 12's this morning. Look forward to the response from the guy who criticized you the other day. I expect a "well there were no stakes so cant be classed as a winner!"

Thanks for not putting it up early and once again your reasonings regarding weather,going and times have been justified wd

Fatlad 1981
     16 Feb 16 15:54 

Thanks for not putting it up early and once again your reasonings regarding weather,going and times have been justified wd

You need a bit of luck sometimes I hadn't checked weather forecast and track has been quick or slightly slower than standard last meeting,i caught the late weather forecast of -9 then oddschecker was down took me an hour to find the prices so worked out perfect.That race was won in 1m30.08 very slow and then the class 3 even slower 1m30.56 incredible Zaeems speedfiure was the best of philba and and ians memory or at least on a par so that 8s was huge as well...

well done with that today , but i still dont think your the massiah like some of the lemmings on here, if you had the game by the balls youd be living it up somewhere warm not sitting at a computer 24/7 waiting to be praised on forums , get a life mister g and leave your house now and again .

kenco
     16 Feb 16 01:43   









3.05 swell

An impossible looking handicap put afkar on here on sunday could well come back and run well in this race based on penulitimate run,similarly a more speculative bet would be the rag Moonlight venture very hard to catch right nowadays just seems stuck on a mark he can't win off in high 60s,probably joining the cnor dore stable has regressed him and he races them so often they are very difficult to back from the stable.There is a slight angle with one race this season though,beat greyfriarschorista in a seller there was a handicap run on the same day won with Llewellyn running .91 quicker but Moonlight venture would have a massive 17 pound turnaround on those weights and alpha tauri 4th in Llewllyns handicap they would come out around the same time.That was on slow going that day and tomorrow I expect the surface will be desperate with temps plummeting -9 degrees forecast so that might be a slight + for moonlight venture and will undoubtedl;y not favour some of the horses in the race you tend to get at least half the field not acting on the surface when it's really slow.If the race 2 days ago hasn't had an affect then he would look overpriced just purely based on that run on slower going,it's an optimistic bet with such a short break but at these prices then worth a few coppers..
He has two ways of running will either be tailed off or running on strongly at finish llewlleyns 10s and Alpha tauris 9s I wouldn't have looked at him twice but with the surface looking like riding deep he will go on it if sundays run hasn't taken its toll..

Moonlight venture 20/1 365/lads/skybet

sp 9/1 scraped home by 7ls...

Anyone that has even the slightest clue can see I'm moving the markets especially effecting them on betfair,that's why the threads getting so much interest (views)not replys it's a license to print as I said in the very first post trading wise.The only lemmings are the one's that aren't taking notice,surely they'd have to be stupid if on average the picks are contracting between 30 and as much as 80%,as one of the traders told me previously it's as though I'm forming the markets in these races,thats why they want my prices.As I said previously there are a small % of punters who have the game by the balls and a lot of the time they will see the same value and that's why the value almost inevitably gets overbet not just on the aw but on the turf..

Sad dopes on forums , how long have you been trawling around the betfair threads Grimster ? and back and forth with new usernames after prob being blocked a few times by the site

Double Trigger
     16 Feb 16 17:50   


Grimster :total troll and fool.  I am one of the lemmings that read this thread , I havent backed every selection religiously but it has proved brilliant for trading and has pointed to winners even when Ken hasnt actually put them up.  Been an education on the AW for a jumps fan like me. Well done Kenco glad you are back

I will have some hunter picks as well,they won't be mine and I don't bet anything but my own form but these hunter picks are usually bigger prices that I've used in mixing up with my aw bets.

Seriously Grimsters? You don't like this thread don't read it. Keep up the good work kenco and ignore the bell ends

best thread on here

well done sir! keep it up