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SHAPESHIFTER
18 Feb 15 11:58
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Trading aside, anyone who does this through the week has several bets. 

Myself, I find myself being slowly "Americanized" taking on more bets for lower ROI but over the months making more.

But it is time-consuming and finding that the key is having the ability to walk away for a day or two to re-eneregize (best is plan the weekend during the week and work backwards through the calendar).

A discussion I was having with a circle was that are punters who look for bets all week capable of finding just three that they feel are solid enough to call 5 star?

The premise is a group of 30 could find anywhere from 200 to 360 bets a month.

If by being selective, you are able to focus better, the ROI and strike-rate should follow suite.

This is, of course, on top of your own punting and trading.

Catch is once you do 12, you're done and you have to maintain a positive ROI (you don't have to do 12).  You would focus on your speciality league, etc.

I'm also aware of a U.S./Canadian syndicate where you follow two teams during each season and can only flag up X amount of bets on these teams a month (not just W/L).  So total immersion into the team(s).

Could you do it?  Could you focus down to 3 a week knowing that instead of working to find dozens of plays during the week, you would be part of a circle finding +200 bets a month?
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Report dave1357 February 18, 2015 12:33 PM GMT
Its a good concept, but things change and edges vanish. Doubt it would work with more than 10 partners for liquidity reasons.

So total immersion into the team(s).

That's a good idea as well - I often thought that edges could be found using info that isn't easily collected, so hasn't been analysed.  The problem being the time to collect and analyse the data and quite often the search would be fruitless.
Report SHAPESHIFTER February 18, 2015 2:31 PM GMT
I seem to remember you were allowed to OPPOSE the team, as well saying the team you were following would lose.

I watched it and it worked well in MLB (182 games per team!).  It came down to targeting games during the week, watching the build-up, pulling the trigger.

What was interesting is one of the people involved built a basic platform that those involved would load their calls in and users would only know bets where there were no opposing views with times in agreement, the stake up slightly based on the predictability of the teams.

So if in Detroit v Toronto, I took Toronto and the person following Detroit took Detroit, the bet wouldn't be on the short-list.
Report SHAPESHIFTER March 4, 2015 1:24 PM GMT
Anyone else have thoughts on this?
Report G1_Jockey_4 March 4, 2015 1:42 PM GMT
i tend not to go for targets as some weeks you can have quiet a few bets which you may see as 5 star bets....and other weeks you may have none.

i do however think there are months when i find it easier as factors have settled and prices are still good....november to mid march in football.

horseracing has a far higher volatility so wouldnt really be able to pinpoint any month/weeks with more chance of winning.
i dont follow fav trends for instance so july isnt always a profitable month for me unlike some punters.
Report SHAPESHIFTER March 4, 2015 2:19 PM GMT
So over a two weeks, could you see yourself with 6 to 8 "five star" bets?
Report G1_Jockey_4 March 5, 2015 6:11 PM GMT
impossible to tell.

sifting through the leagues i deal with i could still have zero or ..........all of them (very unlikely).

i wouldnt set out find 6 or 8.
Report SHAPESHIFTER March 6, 2015 4:47 PM GMT
I've just met and talked to a few "teams". 

They all have specific jobs which means that the 5* in their category only comes up X amount of times per month.  For example, during flat season, one person looks at all racing on his own but 5 and 6 furlong, he alerts people when all the boxes are ticked.  There are 6 of them and they have around 60 major bets a month and have a really good strike-rate/return.
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