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inevitable chasing/martingaling
 why is it inevitable? winners dont chase or follow losing systems if that helps |
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So if he's backing 1.40-1.49 shots what if a few lose in a row?
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Impossible question to answer
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wtf do you keep saying 'inevitable chasing' for pro punters
  How would they be a pro in the first place if they do mug things |
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Do all pro's have an edge?
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of course
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so they wouldn't be trying to pick winners, they simply follow a strict formula/staking plan?
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Yes , do the same thing over and over no doubt
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so winning systems do exist for many people
do you think an edge is like I back every tennis player who won his last 2 games if they are above evens, for example? |
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well no, what if they have just beaten 2 players ranked 100 odd and the next game is v Murray and they are 2.4 . That would not be good.
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yeah but this is just an example of a pro with an edge.
maybe they lay all horse favourites in fields of less than 5 |
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is an edge not just finding a bet that has been statistically successful in the past and repeating it?
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No.
Just more accurate pricing. I expect pro traders on football/cricket/tennis have models which show what the odds should be in relation to the score and time elapsed , and back or lay when the market is out of line. If their model is very accurate that is their edge. |
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but wouldn't bet 365, for example, already have that worked out and there for all to see?
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why would they
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because they are professional odds compilers?
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So are pro punters.
Bet 365 have a big margin for error with the overround so don't need to be so accurate . I doubt they are as good as pros here. |
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All pros have their own line on every bet. That might be computer driven and written down, or just done roughly in their head. If the book's line is different than their own line by a predetermined amount or percentage, it's a bet.
This is crystal clear in NFL betting. That's it, that's how pros bet. People make it so complicated, but it comes down to the pros homemade line vs the books line. Period. Of course, the trick, skill, and art is making a reliable home made line, and not being afraid to jump on when you see the linemakers have a different opinion than yours. This is also known as value betting, that other great debatable pro gambling topic. In a nutshell, make your own reliable line for every bet. |
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because they are professional odds compilers?
Hiding behind the big bookie name is a 20 year old kid working for beer money, who would **** himself if he had to come up with a price without betfair/vegas/pinny or other bookies as a guide. |
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because they are professional odds compilers?
Hiding behind the big bookie name is a 20 year old kid working for beer money, who would **** himself if he had to come up with a price without betfair/vegas/pinny or other bookies as a guide. leave 3setpoints out of this  |
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3setpoints makes some fair points. Regards 365 I find them very hard to beat,
that is, most of the time any margin I find over them, is wiped out by commission. I take some satisfaction from that, in as much the fact that I mainly agree with them, although bets are are hard to find. |
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B 365 accounts are a licence to print money - if you can't beat them (especially on horses) then you have to worry about your edge. You have no idea at the lengths I go to get accounts with them.
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B 365 accounts are a licence to print money
Exactly, but they are good in my experience at closing down accnts. The advice I wd give to anyone starting out is make sure b/f you place a bet that you have a sustainable strategy for getting on. We're talking about having a share of 8-12 placers' bets, each with their own sub-placers. The best place to recruit placers is from addicted losers--personally I've been tempted to try 'gamblers anonymous'-type groups, tho' these people probably want the thrill of betting, rather than the satisfaction of winning and wdn't pay up yr share of the winnings. Winning is not difficult on the horses b/c 1) bm s are playing the mug market, not the winners, meaning they have no interest in pricing correctly on anything that has less than say 8% likelihood, 2) anyone w/ any skill in line-making is on bf--they wdn't work for the money the books are giving them. The books are just scraping from the exchange. A good plan wd be for someone to learn how to win b/f betting, then to swing a multi-person operation into action. Sadly, I did it the opposite way, winning pennies to penny bets in the late 90s as an apprenticeship, gradually betting bigger and getting closed down. |
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racingguru bet 365 will happily take my custom
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askari - bigtime loser right here
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tho' these people probably want the thrill of betting, rather than the satisfaction of winning and wdn't pay up yr share of the winnings.
I disagree |
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On horse racing b365 make so many mistakes its unreal , but they probably don't care so much because it marks their card.
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Not just talking about their overnight stuff. Taking those is sure to get your account closed quick time. Generally they are very easy to beat and generous with their ew terms, offers, bog etc.
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