p u s s y f o o t

OP?

had been on here for a few years par-time, not winning alot maybe a few k a yr in at the start and then slowly a little more and eventually winning 10-20k to still supplement me part time wage working in the local leisure center as a gym instructor. (was on 500 quid per month) still living at home.

One day, a callwent out.. .....instructor to sauna area please.... went to check it out... just hoping the raunchy couple wernt at it again in the hot-tub / sauna. 

To my horror...someone had left a massive turd in one shower cubicle and smeared another turd...all over the walls.  My manager..smiled...gave me some gloves and said clean it up.

i refused...went home, wrote out me leaving letter and handed it in the following day.

Best decision (money wise)with out doubt...iv ever made.  I wouldnt go as far as shaking that blokes hand ...but thank god there was that dirty bar-stuart.

since then you've been fulltime bettor lanza?

wow sounds like your doing really well. I'm massively down on here. do you trade or just try and pick winners? could you help me out a little?

i live in the vallies mate, houses not that expensive here it sounds better than it is.

my day to day cricket stuff...probably helps if youv watched nearly every game of cricket on sky for the last 5 years getting a feeling for the players / grounds / conditions.  I gave up on match odds as there were so many people out there who were much better than me. But By going to the smaller markets and helping them grow / develop over time and creating some little specialist area for yourself, i found that works for me.  Im good with numbers / stats and so cricket is a great sport for me to bet on.

my dog books include lots and lots of research.  I pick a few i fancy or ones i think stand out / want to take on and then as one of a few market makers in that area, its all about numbers and % and lots of take. Same with the darts and ladies tennis. I back / i lay and trade.

il post the occasional gem, franklin top bat 66/1...windins at 16/1 world t20, mvg in the worlds 100+, sidaz jack english greyhound derby but im on here so much, i should throw up a good shout everynow and again.

Sweetchild....ummmm...yes...all of the above.  I normally do a little research, get some idea of what to expect and then wait for s.i to form a run line which is always running in the background asa guide. But alot depends on the prices between run lines in relation to what im expecting.  Small positon before the off and then adjusted in-running.  Again,,, watching so much cricket and knowing who's to come, who's left to bowl, the ground all helps to form an idea of what might happen next but it only comes i feel from having watched so much of the stuff in the past.

so say your £1000 up for the month lanza, and then lose £1200 in 3 losing bets? will you place a big chase bet to get back into profit for the month?

so without a job how can you not chase to get back on track?

3setpoints you seems to have it in your head that when people lose a few bets on here they have to go chasing to get it back, which couldn't be further from the truth.  People will just carry on doing exactly what they have been doing knowing that in the long run things will work out OK. Losing a few bets shouldn't cause anybody discomfort unless they are over-staking and the likes of Lanza and co will be able to stomach many losing runs just as part of normal day to day/week to week/month to month business.

Here's another analogy...

You get 11/10 for the correct toss of a coin. After hundreds of tosses you'll be up.

Im a driving instructor but for the last few years ive been making more money on here. The good thing about being self employed is that you can choose your hours to a degree and you can decrease and increase your hours to suit your needs. Over the last 6 months ive been gradually decreasing my instructing to spend more time on here and its going well. The downside with quitting a regular job is there is no guarenteed income. You expect to win in the long run but if you run out of money in a long losing streak you have no money to win it back. My advice is work out what your worst ever losing streak was and make sure you have enough money in the bank to survive that and enough to live on in the meantime. Good luck.

3setpoints couldn't be the original Paulol .... then the hundreds of new usernames and then towards the end known as BobVegas .... could it be

its just brutal isnt it 

cant imagine what its like for people going to bed on tuesday night, and waking up on wednesday morning minus 60%, im not sure i could handle that scenario (unlikely as it is to happen)

Is it not possible to spread the betting out between lots of bookies to avoid the premium charges?

I think you guys have it right with the part-time job/betfair mix. Breaking up the week and having a bit of guaranteed income can't be a bad thing. It's dangerous to become too reliant on this place as god knows what nasty tweaks are ahead.
I've been paying 50% since pc2 came in and this past year I've become really lazy. I think betfair thought that people would increase their activity to keep their net 'income' the same, but it's had the opposite effect on me.
I have zero motivation to set my alarm for 1 a.m to trade the NBA when I only keep 50%

just taken 2.8k in premium charge this morning.

60% would have meant they'd just taken 7.4k out of my account for the market id worked on all year... frightening stuff. and the 600 quid comission  so 8k out of 14.

i wont be able to carry on and would have to get a more 'normal job' at that point.

3sp...the vis is spot on.

cragihol...im sorry you live you here 2 . I actually love merthyr tho.

I went into other sports a few yrs ago as there wasnt enough cricket on and i needed some more income streams.  4 grand slams, about 12 dart comps and then 10+premier league nights, 2 big dog races, add in a few specials / manager markets and i was ok with my daily stuff.  I use to look forward to april as i looked upon it as the time to feast with 70ipl games in that month.  But now with the explosion of t20 leagues from all around the world i find im almost busting my schedule is choc-a-bloc.

Having just had my biggest winner ever, i thought i was only a few months away from super pc and finishing and i dont really know what im gonna do, but given betfair have said its net profit and not gross so im another 40odd k away so have a little more time before retirement back to normality.

curly...ouch..firstly well done on getting to 250 mate but it must feel like a right kick in the nuts everyweek. i tried the other place when i was under investigation for premium charge avoidance several years ago and found it to be useless.  All adds to the despair.

Personally if I was paying 50 percent I'd tell it get stuffed, give up

3set funnily enough ive also said, no matter how unfair the premium charge is, i wish i was paying it...of course that attitude would change the first wednesday its deducted

funny thing the premium charge.  Took me years to get to 100k.  Taken 18 months to get to 200k. Some of my best weeks came immediately after pc2 was introduced.

That and there's been a massive increase in cricket coverage.

20% whilst not liking it...i can make things work... 60% and as curly points out whats the point anymore. and id probably be better off believe it or not on daq or out in the real world.