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Coachbuster
19 Mar 13 14:20
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if while on the charge you  have 2 bets

one wins £1000

the other loses £1000

and you pay 5% (£50) commission

what happens with the £50 ? 


do you get half of that back by way of implied ,or all of it  ?   


thanks
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Report bingo bongo March 19, 2013 1:41 PM GMT
Implied commission is 3% on losses so £30

If this £1000 win is before commission (I think this is what you mean) then

Commision generated is Implied+Paid/2, in this case £30+£50/2 = £40

So a overall a loss of £10 - you've lost £50 but have potential pc saving/buffer of £40 on 20% pc
Report Coachbuster March 19, 2013 1:59 PM GMT
ahh thanks bongo -  didn't realise it was 30%  btw ,and yes ...i did mean before comms
Report Coachbuster March 19, 2013 2:00 PM GMT
and yeah , it would have to be on the basis of further gains of course Happy
Report sweetchildofmine March 19, 2013 5:22 PM GMT
is it possible to be paying premium charge and still be on 5% commission?
Report Eddie the eagle March 19, 2013 5:31 PM GMT
It's possible, but unlikely.
  Even the biggest players on here though, would be on 5 % within 6 - 12 months if they took a break, due to the 15 % weekly deduction on Betfair points.
Report U.A. March 19, 2013 7:11 PM GMT
Yeah definitely possible, i don't think too unlikely. The pc affects small players as well as big players.
Report Coachbuster March 20, 2013 12:51 AM GMT
sweetchild - yes it is certainly possible in the early days and after a break as mentioned .

5% is also a lot easier to deal with as a round hypothetical figure Happy
Report sweetchildofmine March 20, 2013 10:33 AM GMT
cheers coach
Report Mighty Whites 2008 March 24, 2013 12:58 PM GMT
sweetchildofmine     19 Mar 13 17:22 
is it possible to be paying premium charge and still be on 5% commission?


I pay the premium charge nearly every week and my discount rate is usually 4 - 6 %.

It is easily done if you don't play many markets and have steady but unspectacular wins and very few loses.
Report Mighty Whites 2008 March 24, 2013 12:59 PM GMT
sweetchildofmine     19 Mar 13 17:22 
is it possible to be paying premium charge and still be on 5% commission?


I pay the premium charge nearly every week and my discount rate is usually 4 - 6 %.

It is easily done if you don't play many markets and have steady but unspectacular wins and very few loses.
Report viva el presidente! March 24, 2013 3:37 PM GMT
sweetchildofmine 19 Mar 13 17:22 Joined: 26 Aug 07 | Topic/replies: 13,503 | Blogger: sweetchildofmine's blog
is it possible to be paying premium charge and still be on 5% commission?

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very very possible if your winning strategy is to always trade to an all green book and you've been doing it for any length of time.

or if you take some time off, because the 15% weekly points decay will eat away your discount pretty quickly.
Report charlatan March 24, 2013 4:36 PM GMT
is it possible to be paying premium charge and still be on 5% commission?

very much so Cry
Report sweetchildofmine March 24, 2013 4:44 PM GMT
well i dont pay premium charge but IF i ever do, i can guarantee i'll only pay it once
Report charlatan March 24, 2013 4:46 PM GMT
i'm on 5% in part because i'm taking my time to reach the £250k threshold at which point i won't have another bet here.
Report viva el presidente! March 24, 2013 7:30 PM GMT
got to admit, charlatan, when/if I hit 250K I'll probably pack it in too.

fortunately, barring a rule change it's not going to be an issue for quite a while.
Report pistachio March 24, 2013 7:42 PM GMT
i'm on 5% in part because i'm taking my time to reach the £250k threshold at which point i won't have another bet here. got to admit, charlatan, when/if I hit 250K I'll probably pack it in too.
yes agreed.
Report 0%profit March 27, 2013 9:32 PM GMT
when you clear £250k profit what will your minimum p/c rate be 40%Confused
Report Eddie the eagle March 27, 2013 9:55 PM GMT
Yes, 40 % is the minimum when you have reached 250 k profit if you are eligible to pay the charge.
Report 0%profit March 28, 2013 1:47 PM GMT
so if you had no losers that week you would have to generate 80% commission to break even as they halve actual commission charged each week this is barmy imoLaughLaugh
Report 0%profit March 28, 2013 1:51 PM GMT
surely the only option is to switch to bet-aq as to break even you only need to make £3 there for £10 here insaneConfusedConfusedCryCry
Report houchy March 28, 2013 2:58 PM GMT
Purple statement looks like they want to be taken seriously  BA forum - discussion page !!!
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