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By:
smithy91
When: 28 Nov 12 12:31
thanks for the feedback guys. has anyone else caught the drop in goal expectancy in tottenham vs Liverpool? I will post my final two trades tonight
By:
I.quit.my.country
When: 28 Nov 12 12:53
What happened to predicting which way the market will go?

Reason for the unders this week as we come into round 13 of the season, 6 homes and 6 aways, teams are sussing each other out and the turn in weather. I always said now is the time to bet on football. Like darts, tennis, snooker tournaments; The best time to bet is the QF stage and you should have your biggest bet here. Not the early rounds or semis/final where nerves come into play. Week 13 to 30 with football but avoid the Christmas and New Year fixtures where player's hangovers are unknown.
By:
kenilworth
When: 28 Nov 12 14:13
Tottenham/Liverpool goal expectancy is the same as it was
this morning, the price of 'unders/overs' has dropped
slightly, but IMO 'overs' should be favoured at around 1.81
'unders' at 2.22. I have no view on the result but 'overs'
at 1.95 seems a very fair price.
By:
malky1
When: 28 Nov 12 14:57
hi smithy you keep going mate you started a good thread here, just remember people dont like to hear about success jealousy is part of life, if you was doing your bollox thats what pleases others but your not its only words mate sticks and stones and all that Wink
By:
Bridgeboy
When: 28 Nov 12 15:26
Stoke0-0 matched at 10, 10.5 looks good to. . .
By:
prepared83
When: 28 Nov 12 15:47
Keep posting smithy pal
By:
hejik
When: 28 Nov 12 15:49
A very reasoned post UA but i still insist i haven't instigated anything. Only reacted.

Undern, you like to talk.
Of course, anybody is free to follow anybody they wish.
It's important to have the counter perspective for everything.
If people want to follow Green Army AFTER the fact that his analysis is pointed out to be absolutely awful and non-sensical then of course they are free to do that. That doesn't mean it was wrong to point it out.

Smithy, you have either left the thread or you haven't.

Malky, I don't care if they win or lose. What I do care about is when they lose but pretend to have won.
Or offer up winning trades after the event.

Thread is supposed to be about predicting market moves. Not posting up what you did after you know which way it went

Anybody who thinks I'm in the wrong here for raising concerns and asking questions is beyond help
By:
undern
When: 28 Nov 12 16:15
Hejik - you have forgotten one thing .... that most of us on here can read (between the lines), interpret and make informed decisions ... without you having to feel it is your duty to "protect" us all from other peoples' comments, aftertiming and down right pretending ....

Rather than worry about what other people post ... simply concentrate on your thoughts regarding market-moves ....

You mention about "is beyond help" .... well noone has asked you to help guide them through the mirage of fantasy betting .... so let it go.

All the best with your betting.
By:
hejik
When: 28 Nov 12 16:20
like all the people on the Footsoldiers thread?
estimated £500,000 worth of reasons it's important to raise issue sometimes Undern

I like you, don't understand why you do all those challenge threads
But i like you because you don't shirk questions and don't make up bets
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 28 Nov 12 17:15
your comparing this to the foot soldiers thread Surprised


i suppose smithy made up his profit and loss statements too?

as someone said, another fine forumite hounded off the forum and a tremendous thread followed by many people totally ruined and gone
By:
no moves
When: 28 Nov 12 17:18
I think information about the way the markets move in football betting is interesting

Ideas on what could be defined as the correct price in a precise market is also very good.

Any facts about which matches to concentrate on are valuable aswell.
By:
Bridgeboy
When: 28 Nov 12 17:19
Perhaps Smithy could start another thread called something like"aftertimers and made up bets" and just carry on as usual, no body could complain then. By the way thats not sarcasm anyone who starts moaning just refer them to the title of the thread. . .
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 28 Nov 12 17:22
i just couldnt understand why certain people appointed themselves the moral guardians of the thread and shoehorned themselves into a long term discussion between like minded people...wonder which thread they will target next?
By:
hejik
When: 28 Nov 12 17:30
I wasn't comparing them scom, just pointing out that Underns observation isn't always correct.

I asked Green Army some questions
He gave stupidly poor answers
I told him he was wrong
He repeatedly insulted me, refused to explain why he thought I was wrong
Then "blocked me"

Would have been easier to just explain in a civil manner as to why he thought I was wrong
Then I could have corrected him and that would have been that
Unfortunately that didn't happen and he decided to proceed as I've highlighted above

Aftertimers thread is a good idea though, would be busy if anything like this threadLaugh
By:
malky1
When: 28 Nov 12 17:34
good call on the si lanka cricket sweet i layed draw 1.4 hope you have nice green.

dont take the bait from hejik he is loveing this.
By:
kenilworth
When: 28 Nov 12 17:35
smithy91 Joined: 01 Mar 10
Replies: 3896 28 Nov 12 12:31   


thanks for the feedback guys. has anyone else caught the drop in goal expectancy in tottenham vs Liverpool? I will post my final two trades tonight

When, before or after the events?
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 28 Nov 12 17:36
even now you cant help yourself can you? no wonder you are riduculed on the football forum, sad, sad old man
By:
hejik
When: 28 Nov 12 17:37
Doesn't knwo what he's done yet
Depends what happens in next 2 hours and where the price movement comes
He did that
By:
Bridgeboy
When: 28 Nov 12 17:40
hejik and Ken really are cut from the same cloth, why do you open this thread? People enjoy this thread why do you insist on ruining it?
By:
hejik
When: 28 Nov 12 17:43
Just offering an opinion Bridgeboy
It's a FORUM
The fact it's not one shared by the deluded fantasists who "enjoy" the thread doesn't mean it is any less valid
By:
I.quit.my.country
When: 28 Nov 12 17:43
no moves's
I think information about the way the markets move in football betting is interesting

Ideas on what could be defined as the correct price in a precise market is also very good.

Any facts about which matches to concentrate on are valuable aswell.


Exactly the points of what makes it an interesting thread. Individual's profit/loss, blocking, unblocking, aftertiming bets, arguing, etc I could do without.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 28 Nov 12 17:44
incredible isnt it? 90% of all trades discussed are pre match, the rest afterwards for various reasons and the people that count, dont give two hoots yet laurel and hardy come along pretending they dont really care, yet make it their moral crusade to wreck the thread because they dont agree with it..if i didnt like or agree with a thread i would stay well away..i dont know its just sad and baffling ..no wonder this forum is dying a slow death
By:
Bridgeboy
When: 28 Nov 12 17:44
hejik why not start another thread then and see how many people want to view your opinion?
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 28 Nov 12 17:45
hejik do you mean the deluded fantasist that regularly posts his profit and loss statements?
By:
hejik
When: 28 Nov 12 17:46

Nov 28, 2012 -- 5:44PM, sweetchildofmine wrote:


incredible isnt it? 90% of all trades discussed are pre match, the rest afterwards for various reasons and the people that count, dont give two hoots yet laurel and hardy come along pretending they dont really care, yet make it their moral crusade to wreck the thread because they dont agree with it..if i didnt like or agree with a thread i would stay well away..i dont know its just sad and baffling ..no wonder this forum is dying a slow death


need to lay off it i think SCOM
clearly really beginning to break you now this thread
may not be good for your health to get so irritated about such trivial things

By:
kenilworth
When: 28 Nov 12 17:48
Are smithy91, greenarmy, sweetchildofmine not just one person?
The reason I ask is because as often as not, they (he?, she?) answer each
others posts. Just wondered.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 28 Nov 12 17:48
haha did you really just say im getting irritated and agitated? me?

Laugh  Laugh  Laugh  Laugh
By:
hejik
When: 28 Nov 12 17:48
SCOM

Like this?

Football / Blackburn v Millwall : Match Odds 24-Nov-12 15:00  24-Nov-12 16:54  -310.00
Football / Stoke v Fulham : Match Odds 24-Nov-12 15:00  24-Nov-12 16:54  38.15
Football / Sunderland v West Brom : To Score 24-Nov-12 12:45  24-Nov-12 15:05  95.57
Football / Sunderland v West Brom : Match Odds 24-Nov-12 12:45  24-Nov-12 14:42  -17.04
Football / Liverpool v Young Boys : Last Goalscorer 22-Nov-12 20:05  22-Nov-12 22:29  4.76
Football / Liverpool v Young Boys : Over/Under 7.5 Goals 22-Nov-12 20:05  22-Nov-12 22:00  25.14
Football / Liverpool v Young Boys : Over/Under 6.5 Goals 22-Nov-12 20:05  22-Nov-12 22:00  1.91
Football / Liverpool v Young Boys : Match Odds 22-Nov-12 20:05  22-Nov-12 22:00  19.12
Football / Lazio v Tottenham : To Score 22-Nov-12 18:00  22-Nov-12 20:15  415.85
Football / Lazio v Tottenham : First Goalscorer 22-Nov-12 18:00  22-Nov-12 20:05  -9.73
Football / Lazio v Tottenham : Correct Score 22-Nov-12 18:00  22-Nov-12 19:53  -140.00
Football / Lazio v Tottenham : Next Goal 22-Nov-12 18:00  22-Nov-12 19:53  2.73
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 28 Nov 12 17:49
lol here comes kenilworth/supernap with his paranoia now
By:
hejik
When: 28 Nov 12 17:51
Here is mine for same games Laugh


Football / Blackburn v Millwall : Match Odds 24-Nov-12 15:00  24-Nov-12 16:54  960.00
Football / Stoke v Fulham : Match Odds 24-Nov-12 15:00  24-Nov-12 16:54  1016.43
Football / Sunderland v West Brom : To Score 24-Nov-12 12:45  24-Nov-12 15:05  4586.64
Football / Sunderland v West Brom : Match Odds 24-Nov-12 12:45  24-Nov-12 14:42  436.78
Football / Liverpool v Young Boys : Last Goalscorer 22-Nov-12 20:05  22-Nov-12 22:29  949.71
Football / Liverpool v Young Boys : Over/Under 7.5 Goals 22-Nov-12 20:05  22-Nov-12 22:00  758.19
Football / Liverpool v Young Boys : Over/Under 6.5 Goals 22-Nov-12 20:05  22-Nov-12 22:00  0.07
Football / Liverpool v Young Boys : Match Odds 22-Nov-12 20:05  22-Nov-12 22:00  42.69
Football / Lazio v Tottenham : To Score 22-Nov-12 18:00  22-Nov-12 20:15  697.14
Football / Lazio v Tottenham : First Goalscorer 22-Nov-12 18:00  22-Nov-12 20:05  954.67
Football / Lazio v Tottenham : Correct Score 22-Nov-12 18:00  22-Nov-12 19:53  842.79
Football / Lazio v Tottenham : Next Goal 22-Nov-12 18:00  22-Nov-12 19:53  884.60
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 28 Nov 12 17:52
but anyway thats it from me.. no more bets, trades, discussions, i'll let the spoilers get on with it, i think the rest of the forum have seen them at their very worst

good luck to all those, who helped make it a fascinating thread, it was a pleasure
By:
Bridgeboy
When: 28 Nov 12 17:53
Wow, unbelivable, a sad end. . .
By:
tommycockles
When: 28 Nov 12 17:53
Agreed scom, good luck all.
By:
kenilworth
When: 28 Nov 12 17:53
sweetchildofmine Joined: 26 Aug 07
Replies: 11398 28 Nov 12 17:44   


incredible isnt it? 90% of all trades discussed are pre match, the rest afterwards for various reasons.

incredible that the 10% not mentioned before are always winners.
By:
hejik
When: 28 Nov 12 17:55

Nov 28, 2012 -- 5:53PM, Bridgeboy wrote:


Wow, unbelivable, a sad end. . .


Truly devastating Bridgeboy
Not sure how I will get through tomorrow if I'm honest
Get a grip man
These are very valid points I'm making

By:
nortons
When: 28 Nov 12 19:28
Guys you should know that Kennels Worth craves attention on this forum and tries his best to either ruin the thread or attept a takeover
where he is not the main contributor.

With this being Smithys baby and long running to boot our man Ken was not receiving much attention on the football forum so he commences starting football threads on general betting,surprised nobody apart from coachbuster has realised.

Kenny where was your shop? The only question he will not answer,mine was between Stratford on Avon And Evesham many years ago called Avon Racing why Kenny is your past a secret,did you do a runner?
By:
kenilworth
When: 28 Nov 12 19:59
nortons, I have no intention of responding to
any of your posts intended for me, so refrain
from wasting your time or mine. End of.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 28 Nov 12 20:03
you just did
By:
green army
When: 28 Nov 12 20:09
ha ha ha ha ha - you're so thick kenny
By:
kenilworth
When: 28 Nov 12 20:11
I dislike the man(?) intensely but I was
taught good manners.
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