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meltdown
08 Dec 11 06:03
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OK.

WELCOME TO ME TO BETFAIR FORUM
I DECIDED THE FOLLOWING....

1. Everyone gambles to make a profit no one on earth gambles for fun. the only time you have fun is when you are on a winning streak £500+ maybe & don't mind putting few £s on silly bets for fun.

2. When only playing casino games & computer based games the maximun you will win is like £100 if you win more you have spent alot more in the long run, if you win £25-£100 from £1 bets DO NOT PLACE MORE BETS AS YOUR MONEY WILL BE EATEN if you do like playing computer based gamble games, then when you win switch games very reguarly.

3. Football bets & REAL Sports is a better way for profits regardless its all real 100% (apart from match fixing but normally us english haven't heard of that team? so why place a bet on it).

4. on Live dealer Casinos, When your in profit go back to smaller bets, in the early hours of the morning remember not many customers will be playing so do not go wild, don't go higher, because the table will be loosing profits & then your profits will go.

5. They is no safe way to bet. always keep pen & paper & write everything down each betting hour take reguarly rests to ensure your always making profits maybe watch some TV & have a cup of tea belive me the 5 minute rest even at a casino table helps.

6. If your betting in-place watch the event, would you really bet blinde?

7. I can't think of anymore. I am only 22, but i learned alot & lost alot & won alot But still learning & now controlling my wins, looses, & starting to see small profits to put in my business ventures.

thank you,

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By:
deansthemann
When: 08 Dec 11 06:30
you sound like youve got the casino games by the bollox well done
By:
catflappo
When: 08 Dec 11 07:16
What is your overall p/l on the casinos?
By:
Methane_Magnet
When: 08 Dec 11 09:21
Thank you! You have restored my faith in the wisdom of the forum. Off for a cup of tea now.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 08 Dec 11 09:29
And he's only 22.
The sky's the limit obviously.
Scary.
By:
Methane_Magnet
When: 08 Dec 11 09:31
My favourite bit is.....

7. I can't think of anymore.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 08 Dec 11 09:36
Give him time.
He's still young.
After all how long did it take you ( or me) to come up with more than 6 good gambling axioms ?
By:
Contrarian
When: 08 Dec 11 09:39
Great post.

Perhaps you could add

8) No, still can't think of anything else.
By:
Methane_Magnet
When: 08 Dec 11 09:41
I would start him off with this...

1) Self exclude yourself from everything that has been added to the site since 2001.

Simples!
By:
catflappo
When: 08 Dec 11 09:43
Ageists!  Give the kid a chance.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 08 Dec 11 09:48
Truth be told.
I sort of hit the wall at zero.
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When: 08 Dec 11 09:50
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By:
Methane_Magnet
When: 08 Dec 11 09:51
I maintain that my No1 (above) will probably be the most financially rewarding advice that he will ever get on here.
By:
Wicked Whisper
When: 08 Dec 11 12:03
I'm 21 and this guy is a mug.
By:
Wicked Whisper
When: 08 Dec 11 12:10
1. There are people who gamble for fun, which is completely acceptable. The issue is when profitable gamblers, have 'fun' side bets which always eat into their profits.

2. Casino games are not for those trying to make a profit in the long run.

3. Agree, mostly.

4. Casino games are not for those trying to make a profit in the long run.

5. There are methods to keep risk to a minimum. Logging bets is a must. Cups of tea and TV watching do not improve your edge in the casino.

6. Well, of course. Unless you have a solid trading method of some sort...

7. Great stuff.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 08 Dec 11 12:42
Between these 2, we now have 21.5 year olds advising us " oldies " on how best to gamble.
Why not ?
Well let's just say I wish I knew at 21.5 yrs what I now know at 21.5 + x  yrs.
I'll leave open to speculation both whether the knowledge gap is positive or negative and what the x is.
After all, we're not here to give away anything remotely truthful are we ?
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 08 Dec 11 12:58
playing casino games and expecting to win is like being a surfer and expecting a good day on any random stretch of water on the globe
you could end up riding the crest of a wave on a top venue but your more likely to end up going under in a tropical/arctic storm Excited
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 08 Dec 11 12:59
funny thing the weather/enviroment!
By:
Wicked Whisper
When: 08 Dec 11 13:00
I'm not advising you, I'm commenting on his advice.

Cool
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 08 Dec 11 13:00
casino players are the acient mariners of the pro gambling world
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 08 Dec 11 13:01
ancient
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 08 Dec 11 13:02
One general thing I feel obliged to add to my last rather sarky comment.
In this modern era of PCs, I would expect and hope that any good young gambler would know a helluva lot more than any good young gambler in the pre-PC era, if only due to the invention of spreadsheets and the analytical benefits they bring.
By:
Wicked Whisper
When: 08 Dec 11 13:06
The only problem these days is getting on FAFH.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 08 Dec 11 13:07
Of course equally in the wrong hands, what a dangerous tool they can be and it doesn't then matter how old you are.
I guarantee to within an inch of my life that probably both these youngsters are streets ahead of me in terms of computer usage.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 08 Dec 11 13:07
One has to admire the young though, as they have more the power to dream and the energy to make it happen, wisdom can leave you very tired,old
and dispondantSad
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 08 Dec 11 13:08
WW
I find that no real problem at all.
But I only bet on football and only pre-off.
By:
Wicked Whisper
When: 08 Dec 11 13:09
I will be a professional gambler one day, I am sure of that.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 08 Dec 11 13:09
ah football, a game for the young, hit thirty and your off the pay-roll!
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 08 Dec 11 13:10
but there are very few young footabll managersWink
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 08 Dec 11 13:10
case closed
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 08 Dec 11 13:10
bff
You're only as old as you feel.
Btw you certainly don't seem to me to be old and despondent yet.
Bright as a button. Overpoweringly so most often I would even say.
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 08 Dec 11 13:11
Yeah but I do suffer badly sometimes as I lack the positive conviction to apply planning, 46 by the way.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 08 Dec 11 13:12
WW
Yes you do sound as if you might have the potential to be.
More than the OP that's for certain.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 08 Dec 11 13:13
A mere whipper snapper then eh BFF ?
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 08 Dec 11 13:15
valued comments FAFH, I personally am at a cross-roads in my gambling ventures as I am so tired of form compiling and have gone off the boil
latley as it is certain you need years of data records to arrive at valuable trends and I am venturing into trading now which although
another huge workload in the form of API app development is a more certain medium for retutning x profit!
By:
bf_fananatic
When: 08 Dec 11 13:22
Trouble is it doesnt matter if you study form/stats or you study market dynamics its all a huge learning curve.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 08 Dec 11 13:26
If you have the software writing skills to go the " inplay trading " route then I would agree that might be the best alternative.
But of course you still have to have the " nous" as to be able to excatly define where and how you think you can use the inplay odds movements to generate an effective guaranteed profit, as some seemingly do extremely successfully.
Out of my league this area of gambling is, and will remain forever so, I'm sorry to have to admit.
I have come too late to the game with too few of the required skills to be even a potential expert in play trader ( and I don't mean the guessing type- anybody can become one of those or at least try to ).
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 08 Dec 11 13:31
Bff
If it was  all that easy then everybody and his dog would be doing it, and it wouldn't then be really all that remunerative.
You can't have one without the other can you?
So either put your nose to the grindstone and get working, or perhaps give up the pro angle and just play for fun , or as an intelligent amateur. Don't have to be a mug necessarily, if you're not a pro, do you ?
By:
meltdown
When: 08 Dec 11 13:38
Thankyou holy gods, for wonderful advice. My business savings are doing well, started with £30 on bet365 made £670 - spent £250+ on christmas presents - £300 away for projects - christmas bankroll £70 December start lets go.... £100 spare
By:
greedkillsmybankagain
When: 08 Dec 11 13:39
Sad
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