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the difference is i'm honest like you
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What exactly was so 'think' (I assume you mean 'thick', but 'think' seems a bit of a Freudian slip) about Coolhand's post, Frim? The point he was making was that we should be trying to make good bets. Sometimes those good bets will still lose. As long as we were happy that we placed good bets, and that we were just unlucky that particular day, we shouldn't be displeased about having lost - just keep making the good bets, and we'll soon start making money again.
The worst thing to do is to place large but stupid bets and to pat yourself on the back when they go right. Because if they're bad bets, it's only a matter of time before they'll start going wrong, with disastrous consequences for our bank balance. |
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no i understand completely Bobbin. just with Coolhand being such a tool i used it as a ruse to abuse him
he deserves it as he's a spineless git |
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So you deliberately got the wrong end of the stick so that you could make Coolhand look like a tool...
Right. Clever strategy! |
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if people are nice to me, i'm nice to them Bobbin. i never start any nastiness. Coolhand (the spineless git) started so just giving a bit more back to the idiot
looking forward to Christmas LB? |
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Coolhand : Can you have a day in profit where you make bad bets?
and can you have a day when you lose and make good bets? This is key. But to understand it you need to be able to measure your edge, and from what I've read on the forum many people seem to think that 'edge' is subjective and cannot be measured until after many events. This isn't true, although obviously the edge can be confirmed after many events, but I know when placing a bet what my % edge is. So to elaborate on what Coolhand says, you could back heads at 2.2 for 20 bets in a row and lose every one of them, and that would have been a good days betting, in fact a fantastic days betting. On the flip side, the punter that laid heads at 2.2 for 20 bets in a row finished up with a very tidy profit for the day, but dear oh dear that was a bad days betting and he won't be around for long. Just thought I'd comment on this point (not aimed at you Undern or anyone else) because so many punters fail to grasp it, even though they claim to understand value. |
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i wouldn't talk to Coolhand Trev mate. he's a nasty git, and a spineless bully to boot.
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Trev - easier to judge what odds a coin flip should and shouldn't be.
hard to judge sporting events. this is the key surely? |
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Glad to hear you confirm that still "working" on refining bets UD.....
Took me over a 2 yearperiod to analyse my horse racing system ratings results......and still could do more "work" on such analysis . However, the main reason for such a time period to elapse was down to me being too focused on HIGH ODDS winners.......and not really targetting SHORT ODDS end of market. As it happens....the time was not wasted on the intial checks carried out. Have a STRATEGY indicating 17% ROI on BACKING such HIGH ODDS ones...........though I will probably just target SHORT ODDS ones applying STRATEGIES that produce about 15% on BACKING in WIN market and 15% on LAYING in PLACE market......Liquidity being better at SHORT ODDS end. May take me til MARCH 2012 to be in a position to us my system and apply strategies.........Personal circumstances not condusive to me doing so til then........However, I'm used to being patient and another 3/4 months is nothing considering how long it has taken to reach the point at today. Gl with bets. |
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Yes it's more difficult to evaluate sporting events than a coin flip fp, but it is possible. The point though was to show that many punters appear to judge their betting by the result of the event rather than the price that they achieved, and that price will determine whether or not they are successful long term regardless of the result of the event.
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DFC, your system looks like Morgan le Fay
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Undern,
I didnt mean to cause offence, i shouldnt have worded it like i did and should have left it more open rather than directed at you, it was a point i thought worth raising on an open forum, sorry. Trevh and Cooee, Thank you both for elaborating my point, perhaps i should have done so rather than questioning undern. frimpong, A pleasure as always. Merry xmas and good luck everyone. |
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please
update soon undern |
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6
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why
do you type this way ? |
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Yes it is a public forum where people can post on (within reason) anything they wish therefore feel free to continue while I take this challenge privately .....
but will continue on my merry way in private ... and use the money I (hopefully) will make in a worthwhile way. good luck to all you experts out there. So he's left this thread and taken his challenge offline Probably because he doesn't appreciate being patronised. Constructive input is one thing - but sometimes you need to type it in away in which it doesn't come across as you know best and your word is straight from the betting bible - it's your opinion, your truth but not necessarily 'the truth'. |
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he is a sensitive soul
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OP, could you update this thread please?
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The OP has issues, I openly admit his arrogance has given me many a laugh
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yep very arrogant i agree inono
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Back in the New Year with a new set of toys and a new pram imo
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When the cat's away, the mice will play. Now be careful you lot, or nasty big Undern will be back to pounce and turn you all into a tasty cheese sandwich.
Speaking of which, OP, can you update your challenge please? It's amazing how many of these threads simply disappear... |
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(Squeak Squeak!)
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Back in the New Year with a new set of toys and a new pram imo ....
what are you on about.I have been on Betfair continuing with my challenge each and every day. I even played (and won) on the live Roulette with a smiling croupier looking at me as if she wants me ... .Before you experts provide 'feedback' about how you can't win in the Casino .... I hold my hand up and honestly tell you I have no clue whatsoever about casino games ... ![]() As I mentioned earlier have taken my challenge off this thread and simply continuing with it privately. Will post up some figures if and and when I want to. No where is Redbull's challenge thread, Paulme's or even Inono's three laughable challenges threads .... ![]() |
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mine went bust. Redbull left betfair....
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undern 29 Dec 11 13:12
Back in the New Year with a new set of toys and a new pram imo .... what are you on about. If you can't grasp this - then I give up! I am going home and I am taking my ball with me. |
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TheManIsNotAGent
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^ That is the final straw. I am not playing any more.
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^ That is the final straw. I am not playing any more.
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good to see you Gent. hope you had a good xmas. glad to see you havn't been banned
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Okay ...
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Hi Paul - all good here thanks. Hope you had a fine one too. All the best for the New Year.
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thanks mate
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Thought I'd update the thread before the New Year. Bit hard going for a number of days but also have had some very good days. It does amaze me how things can feel so easy to make on some days and lets just say hard work on other days. ...
... and if anyone watches the Anyone Fancy a Lay thead I posted a very nice and quick 4/4 horse lays earlier today. Biggest loss was over £400 bet yesterday on a greyhound race. Somewhat too cocky with a system selection and naturally it came back to bite me. Won a bit in the casino which doesn't show in the p&l. Will keep plugging away (privately) but will look to update the thread perhaps monthly. Happy New Year !! Challenge Summary: 03/10/2011 10000 04/10/2011 10155 05/10/2011 10108 06/10/2011 9696 07/10/2011 9958 08/10/2011 10379 09/10/2011 10240 10/10/2011 10512 11/10/2011 10714 12/10/2011 11232 13/10/2011 11655 14/10/2011 11344 15/10/2011 11252 16/10/2011 11703 17/10/2011 12072 18/10/2011 12046 19/10/2011 12604 20/10/2011 12150 21/10/2011 12491 22/10/2011 12500 23/10/2011 11500 24/10/2011 11862 25/10/2011 12022 26/10/2011 12297 27/10/2011 12449 28/10/2011 12019 29/10/2011 11555 30/10/2011 11160 31/10/2011 11322 01/11/2011 11682 02/11/2011 11217 03/11/2011 11449 04/11/2011 10948 05/11/2011 10949 06/11/2011 10049 07/11/2011 9650 08/11/2011 9251 09/11/2011 9100 10/11/2011 9231 11/11/2011 9363 12/11/2011 9051 13/11/2011 9274 14/11/2011 9553 15/11/2011 9654 16/11/2011 9466 17/11/2011 9703 18/11/2011 8600 19/11/2011 8846 20/11/2011 8983 21/11/2011 9134 22/11/2011 9475 23/11/2011 8750 24/11/2011 8843 25/11/2011 8300 26/11/2011 8492 27/11/2011 8615 28/11/2011 8901 29/11/2011 9298 30/11/2011 9527 01/12/2011 9920 02/12/2011 10068 03/12/2011 9945 04/12/2011 10356 05/12/2011 10687 06/12/2011 10823 07/12/2011 10799 08/12/2011 9665 09/12/2011 10118 10/12/2011 10343 11/12/2011 9855 12/12/2011 8749 13/12/2011 9023 14/12/2011 9170 15/12/2011 9418 16/12/2011 9660 17/12/2011 10084 18/12/2011 10315 19/12/2011 10589 20/12/2011 10001 21/12/2011 9339 22/12/2011 9602 23/12/2011 9935 24/12/2011 9325 25/12/2011 9456 26/12/2011 9869 27/12/2011 10588 28/12/2011 10892 29/12/2011 11257 30/12/2011 11581 31/12/2011 12076 |
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American Football: £53.07 | Basketball: £7.88 | Darts: -£77.94 | Greyhound Racing: -£108.58 | Horse Racing: £998.72 | Soccer: £753.31 | Tote: | Total P&L: £1,626.46 (UK) from 20th Dec till now
Greyhound Racing: £543.34 | Horse Racing: -£718.14 | Tote: | Total P&L: -£174.80 (aussie) from 20th Dec till now. |
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Today has been as follows ....
Horse Racing: £48.35 | Tote: | Total P&L: £48.35 (aussie) Horse Racing Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Toow (AUS) 31st Dec : R7 1200m Mdn 31-Dec-11 10:23 31-Dec-11 10:26 48.35 |
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Greyhound Racing: £200.89 | Horse Racing: £190.13 | Soccer: £55.77 | Tote: | Total P&L: £446.79
Soccer Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Soccer / Man Utd v Blackburn : Match Odds 31-Dec-11 12:45 31-Dec-11 14:40 55.77 Horse Racing Showing 1 - 6 of 6 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Tram 31st Dec : 2m INHF 31-Dec-11 15:55 31-Dec-11 16:03 72.52 Horse Racing / Newb 31st Dec : 2m Hcap Hrd 31-Dec-11 15:40 31-Dec-11 15:48 51.33 Horse Racing / Punch 31st Dec : 2m2f INHF 31-Dec-11 15:40 31-Dec-11 15:47 24.86 Horse Racing / Uttox 31st Dec : 2m NHF 31-Dec-11 15:30 31-Dec-11 15:34 48.35 Horse Racing / Newb 31st Dec : 2m5f Nov Hrd 31-Dec-11 15:05 31-Dec-11 15:12 -35.00 Horse Racing / Warw 31st Dec : 3m Hcap Chs 31-Dec-11 14:20 31-Dec-11 14:28 28.07 Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 15 of 15 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Greyhound Racing / Poole 31st Dec : A4 450m 31-Dec-11 16:42 31-Dec-11 16:44 29.01 Greyhound Racing / Newc 31st Dec : A4 480m 31-Dec-11 14:42 31-Dec-11 14:44 29.01 Greyhound Racing / Newc 31st Dec : A7 480m 31-Dec-11 14:04 31-Dec-11 14:05 15.13 Greyhound Racing / Romfd 31st Dec : A8 400m 31-Dec-11 13:49 31-Dec-11 13:51 29.01 Greyhound Racing / Romfd 31st Dec : A2 400m 31-Dec-11 11:58 31-Dec-11 12:00 17.41 Greyhound Racing / Crayfd 31st Dec : A5 380m 31-Dec-11 11:51 31-Dec-11 11:55 29.01 Greyhound Racing / Crayfd 31st Dec : A4 380m 31-Dec-11 11:37 31-Dec-11 11:41 24.17 Greyhound Racing / Romfd 31st Dec : A8 400m 31-Dec-11 11:31 31-Dec-11 11:33 67.69 Greyhound Racing / Crayfd 31st Dec : A8 380m 31-Dec-11 11:23 31-Dec-11 11:25 145.05 Greyhound Racing / Romfd 31st Dec : A7 400m 31-Dec-11 11:16 31-Dec-11 11:18 -227.28 Greyhound Racing / Romfd 31st Dec : A6 400m 31-Dec-11 11:00 31-Dec-11 11:04 38.68 Greyhound Racing / Crayfd 31st Dec : S8 540m 31-Dec-11 10:53 31-Dec-11 10:56 48.35 Greyhound Racing / Romfd 31st Dec : A5 400m 31-Dec-11 10:46 31-Dec-11 10:48 -113.13 Greyhound Racing / Crayfd 31st Dec : A4 380m 31-Dec-11 10:38 31-Dec-11 10:41 24.17 Greyhound Racing / Romfd 31st Dec : A4 400m 31-Dec-11 10:31 31-Dec-11 10:33 44.61 Trying to play less and in shorter spurts while letting the BOT get on with things ... |
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why dont you find a good tipster.
with staking plan you cant lose. maybe you could actually get to 100k. what you got to lose? |
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If I find a good tipster for you to follow roadrunner46 I will let you know
.... ...... meanwhile I am still waiting for you to finish that one month thread you started on the comps section which you stopped after a day or so before vanishing for six months .... |