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By:
undern
When: 04 Oct 11 23:49
I did Paulme. I even went 1/1 in the tennis as well Laugh
By:
paulme
When: 05 Oct 11 00:17
well that is phenomenal. please post up your bets pre off.

catflap taken any aspirin for that headache of yours chap?
By:
undern
When: 05 Oct 11 08:17
Given that I have already mentioned about trying to reduce the amount of time I spend on here and the fact that most of the greyhound/horse lays are system selections ....

Why do you want me to post up my bets pre off ?

You don't post up all your bets pre-off or even post up your full p&l statement on the football profit/loss thread .....
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 05 Oct 11 10:54
If you want to save time on here Undern, you should resume your habit of not speaking to Paul. He won't have anything constructive to add to your thoughts, after all.
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 05 Oct 11 10:55
Oh, and I suspect he'll want your bets posted pre-off so that he can bet on them himself.

(To be fair though, I think many of us would like you to post your greyhound bets pre-off!! Laugh)
By:
rayzorsharp
When: 05 Oct 11 10:59
Good luck, Undern. I think your approach is spot-on this time.
By:
undern
When: 05 Oct 11 11:00
Hey LB - early days with the greyhound laying as you and I know what looks good can quickly turn against you ... my problem is whether to win lay or place lay as a high % aren't placed ...

As for Paulme - most of his questions are self-answerable ...
By:
undern
When: 05 Oct 11 11:01
cheers rayzorsharp ...
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 05 Oct 11 11:18
Well yes, those laying systems can be annoyingly deceptive.  Of late I've been doing quite a bit of research into the place markets in horse-racing, and I think there are plenty of mispricing problems there that don't occur to the same extent in the win markets. I suspect there's good money to be made by looking at place lays up to the 2.2 level.
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 05 Oct 11 15:48
gotta laugh paulme straight in there first post with a question.
By:
undern
When: 05 Oct 11 16:36
Area Fifty One  7.8  £6.69  £45.49 
Ref: 16601332769 Bet matched:16:29 05-Oct-11

better put this one up on the thread ... a rare backing win for me ... (which I mentioned it on the anyone fancy a lay thread before the race ) Laugh
By:
undern
When: 05 Oct 11 16:37
Area Fifty One  1.1  £40.00  £44.00 £4.00 
Ref: 16601338201 Bet matched: 16:33 05-Oct-11

i did lay off ir though ...
By:
gleeman
When: 05 Oct 11 17:03
Nice to see you back again, undern.

Good luck with this.
By:
dddddew
When: 05 Oct 11 17:26
why do u call it the 100k challenge when u sh1t ur pants at 10k and stop
By:
undern
When: 05 Oct 11 18:19
thanks gleeman.

nice post dddddew ... yep agree could of and perhaps should have continued with the other one but truth be told after dropping back from £16K mark down to the £10K mark ... felt more than happy to simply 'bank' the money and start afresh. Tough sh1t what you think Laugh
By:
paulme
When: 05 Oct 11 20:43
what are these system selection's you keep mentioning undern?
By:
undern
When: 05 Oct 11 20:51
Simply lay selections I am making based on certain factors/weightings ...
By:
paulme
When: 05 Oct 11 20:55
i see. look forward to the P+L
By:
undern
When: 05 Oct 11 22:21
Bit up and down ... played a bit too much away from the system selections and went down on the last greyhound lay (10.13pm) which stopped the bank moving forward. Noticed the lay odds were a lot higher than they should have been so may look to not lay any greyhound races after say 9pm because of poor liguidity either/or tighten up the odds range for those late races ... still a learning curve.


Challenge Summary:

03/10/11   £2500
04/10/11   £2655
05/10/11   £2608
By:
undern
When: 05 Oct 11 22:22
Darts Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Darts / Taylor v Wright : Match Odds 04-Oct-11 22:20  04-Oct-11 23:29  -25.81

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 16 of 16 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Kemp 5th Oct : 1m4f Hcap 05-Oct-11 19:10  05-Oct-11 19:13  -69.06
Horse Racing / Kemp 5th Oct : 5f Hcap 05-Oct-11 17:40  05-Oct-11 17:44  21.81
Horse Racing / Towc 5th Oct : 3m Hcap Chs 05-Oct-11 16:50  05-Oct-11 16:57  12.10
Horse Racing / Nott 5th Oct : 1m2f Hcap 05-Oct-11 16:30  05-Oct-11 16:36  40.16
Horse Racing / Towc 5th Oct : 2m3f Hcap Hrd 05-Oct-11 16:20  05-Oct-11 16:26  9.68
Horse Racing / Nott 5th Oct : 1m2f Hcap 05-Oct-11 16:00  05-Oct-11 16:05  12.10
Horse Racing / Towc 5th Oct : 2m Nov Hrd 05-Oct-11 15:50  05-Oct-11 15:54  -6.40
Horse Racing / Nott 5th Oct : 1m Mdn Stks 05-Oct-11 15:30  05-Oct-11 15:35  24.20
Horse Racing / Durban (RSA) 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 15:20  05-Oct-11 15:35  -12.52
Horse Racing / Towc 5th Oct : 2m Hcap Hrd 05-Oct-11 15:20  05-Oct-11 15:24  12.11
Horse Racing / Ludl 5th Oct : 3m Hcap Chs 05-Oct-11 15:10  05-Oct-11 15:17  12.86
Horse Racing / Towc 5th Oct : 2m Beg Chs 05-Oct-11 14:50  05-Oct-11 14:56  12.10
Horse Racing / Towc 5th Oct : 2m5f Hcap Hrd 05-Oct-11 14:20  05-Oct-11 14:26  14.52
Horse Racing / Ludl 5th Oct : 2m Sell Hrd 05-Oct-11 14:10  05-Oct-11 14:14  9.68
Horse Racing / Nott 5th Oct : 6f Nursery 05-Oct-11 14:00  05-Oct-11 14:03  9.68
Horse Racing / Durban (RSA) 5th Oct : R5 1000m Hcap 05-Oct-11 13:40  05-Oct-11 13:57  -95.00

Soccer Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Nagoya v Niigata : Over/Under 2.5 goals 05-Oct-11 11:00  05-Oct-11 12:47  9.67

Tennis Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Tennis / Zvonareva v Ivanovic : Match Odds 05-Oct-11 09:15  05-Oct-11 10:53  0.28
Tennis / F Lopez v Youzhny : Match Odds 05-Oct-11 06:45  05-Oct-11 10:18  2.52
By:
undern
When: 05 Oct 11 22:23
Greyhound Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 25 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 5th Oct : A1 400m 05-Oct-11 22:13  05-Oct-11 22:15  -88.88
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 5th Oct : A1 400m 05-Oct-11 21:41  05-Oct-11 21:46  12.86
Greyhound Racing / Yarm 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 21:12  05-Oct-11 21:15  12.86
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 5th Oct : A4 400m 05-Oct-11 20:53  05-Oct-11 20:56  -46.48
Greyhound Racing / Swin 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 20:52  05-Oct-11 20:53  12.86
Greyhound Racing / Sund 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 20:47  05-Oct-11 20:49  12.86
Greyhound Racing / Swin 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 20:36  05-Oct-11 20:40  -19.92
Greyhound Racing / Sund 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 20:31  05-Oct-11 20:33  -17.72
Greyhound Racing / Yarm 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 19:37  05-Oct-11 19:38  12.86
Greyhound Racing / Romfd 5th Oct : A8 400m 05-Oct-11 19:30  05-Oct-11 19:36  12.86
Greyhound Racing / Yarm 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 18:49  05-Oct-11 18:50  12.86
Greyhound Racing / Hove 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 17:56  05-Oct-11 18:02  12.86
Greyhound Racing / Hove 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 17:22  05-Oct-11 17:26  12.86
Greyhound Racing / BVue 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 16:37  05-Oct-11 16:44  -16.20
Greyhound Racing / Hove 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 15:07  05-Oct-11 15:09  12.86
Greyhound Racing / Hove 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 14:47  05-Oct-11 14:48  12.86
Greyhound Racing / Hove 5th Oct : A8 515m 05-Oct-11 14:08  05-Oct-11 14:09  9.68
Greyhound Racing / Newc 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 13:58  05-Oct-11 14:03  -24.04
Greyhound Racing / HGrn 5th Oct : A3 480m 05-Oct-11 13:51  05-Oct-11 13:54  -48.75
Greyhound Racing / Newc 5th Oct : A4 480m 05-Oct-11 13:12  05-Oct-11 13:14  14.52

Greyhound Racing Showing 21 - 25 of 25 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Newc 5th Oct : A3 480m 05-Oct-11 12:58  05-Oct-11 13:01  16.17
Greyhound Racing / HGrn 5th Oct : To Be Placed 05-Oct-11 12:47  05-Oct-11 12:48  25.71
Greyhound Racing / HGrn 5th Oct : A6 480m 05-Oct-11 11:19  05-Oct-11 11:23  9.20
Greyhound Racing / Newc 5th Oct : A2 480m 05-Oct-11 11:11  05-Oct-11 11:14  4.36
Greyhound Racing / HGrn 5th Oct : A7 480m 05-Oct-11 11:03  05-Oct-11 11:07  1.94
By:
undern
When: 05 Oct 11 22:24
Horse Racing Showing 1 - 8 of 8 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Redc (AUS) 5th Oct : R5 1780m Pace M 05-Oct-11 10:40  05-Oct-11 10:45  6.20
Horse Racing / Bend (AUS) 5th Oct : R4 2150m Pace M 05-Oct-11 10:00  05-Oct-11 10:07  -55.00
Horse Racing / Bend (AUS) 5th Oct : R3 1650m Pace M 05-Oct-11 09:27  05-Oct-11 09:31  12.10
Horse Racing / Belm (AUS) 5th Oct : R7 1400m Hcap 05-Oct-11 09:21  05-Oct-11 09:27  9.68
Horse Racing / Bend (AUS) 5th Oct : R1 1650m Pace M 05-Oct-11 08:15  05-Oct-11 08:20  4.84
Horse Racing / Belm (AUS) 5th Oct : R5 1000m Hcap 05-Oct-11 08:10  05-Oct-11 08:12  6.78
Horse Racing / Wagg (AUS) 5th Oct : R1 1755m Pace M 05-Oct-11 08:00  05-Oct-11 08:08  2.42
Horse Racing / Doom (AUS) 5th Oct : R7 1640m CL3 05-Oct-11 07:48  05-Oct-11 07:53  9.68
By:
paulme
When: 05 Oct 11 22:37
are you doing things differently to the last challenge?
By:
undern
When: 05 Oct 11 22:42
I am laying to specific % of the bank and doing "mainly" system selections. Saying that when I started the other challenge was initially laying to win £6 per horse race where this one I am trying to win 0.5% of the current bank ...
By:
Van-Wedged
When: 05 Oct 11 22:43
Why have you asked this question Paul? An utter waste of everyone's time. Please don't be malicious and try and detract from the flow of the thread.
By:
paulme
When: 05 Oct 11 22:50
ok is the selection criteria different?
By:
Van-Wedged
When: 05 Oct 11 22:52
He is trialling and tweaking two new selections systems, as mentioned numerous times throughout the thread!!! Good God man, you are hard work.
By:
paulme
When: 05 Oct 11 23:02
i see. was wondering how they differ i guess.
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 06 Oct 11 01:33
He's made it absolutely clear that the selection criteria are different in the new systems. He's obviously not going to tell you what those selection criteria are though, since that would be giving away part of his system.
By:
undern
When: 06 Oct 11 08:27
To answer the above ... in my previous challenge I did a lot of betting pre-off and ir as well as greening up across lots of markets. I didn't use any system as such to select say my horse lays etc - however I did use certain factors to drill down into what races and horse I was interested in ...

This time around (to reduce hours on here) I am playing with horse
and greyhound system that I have 'discovered'. Actually the horse system is 4 mini-systems and the greyhound is 1 system (and one other one which is of interest).

Currently fine tuning the greyhound one. the biggest issues are over odd ranges to lay, staking, market volume problems at certain times, win or place laying ... plus a few other things.

One big thing is whether to automatically set up the bot to stop after winning a certain % of the bank or simply let it go on throughout the day .... ie: do you take the money or risk it to make more ... not sure just about that one. Arguments for both sides.

No Paulme I won't be telling you what the "systems" are - however I did put up on the Anyone Fancy a Lay thread a nice lay selection and even a nice juicy 8/1 or so winner Laugh
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 06 Oct 11 08:38
You know he's now going to go off and destroy the 'Anyone Fancy a Lay' thread with constant questions, don't you?
By:
hejik
When: 06 Oct 11 13:45
bobbin, undern - block the prick
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 06 Oct 11 14:34
You still see the carnage he causes though, Hejik. If everybody blocked Paul, there'd be no problems. But as long as he's asking his many stupid questions and interrogating everybody, the threads still descend into chaos. So blocking him doesn't really help.
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 18:29
Undern - where did you discover these "systems"? do you pay for them? how did you learn to make a bot?

hi Heydrich

LB you really need a hobby a job or a bird. actually, have you ever kissed a girl before Confused
By:
ShaneESP
When: 06 Oct 11 18:48
paulme why not let undern just get on with his thread/bets/trades and leave him in a bit of peace.

In the meantime you can start learning about exchange bots on the link below:

...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=exchange+betting+bots
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 19:07
ah okay. thanks Shane. i dont think you've been overly nice about me on undern's other thread but im a nice guy really. hope you're well
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 19:08
nice link Laugh
By:
undern
When: 07 Oct 11 06:58
Yep I know. Don't judge me too harshly .... (just yet)

Challenge Summary:

03/10/11   £2500
04/10/11   £2655
05/10/11   £2608
06/10/11   £2223
By:
undern
When: 07 Oct 11 07:04
Darts: -£21.22 | Greyhound Racing: -£334.52 | Horse Racing: £18.29 | Snooker: £33.88 | Soccer: £111.14 | Tennis: -£68.20 | Tote: |  Total P&L:  -£260.63

Greyhound Racing: -£84.37 | Horse Racing: -£58.78 | Tote: |  Total P&L:  -£143.15 (Aussie Wallet)

I will do like Paulme does and not put up all his bets ... Laugh

Soccer Showing 1 - 2 of 2 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Soccer / Sweden U21 v Slovenia U21 : Match Odds 06-Oct-11 18:20  06-Oct-11 20:12  9.50
Soccer / Sweden U21 v Slovenia U21 : Over/Under 1.5 Goals 06-Oct-11 18:20  06-Oct-11 19:59  101.64

A day to forget and remember ...
By:
undern
When: 07 Oct 11 07:08
Okay I will put up another one as well ...

2011-10-06
20:58 16616874335 2011-10-06
20:50  GB Wolv 6th Oct / 20:50 1m Hcap / Appyjack
Back   5.20 27.46 Won   115.33 Laugh
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