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I can't see anything .. else someone can tell me ?
no ones at quack for football ...
looks like bet fair have worked it out very well and they knew there dominance
looks like people opted to pay an pc2 here to stay
i really thought something may change but seems people were huffing and puffing for no reason
no ones at quack for football ...
looks like bet fair have worked it out very well and they knew there dominance
looks like people opted to pay an pc2 here to stay
i really thought something may change but seems people were huffing and puffing for no reason
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do you know how long it take to move 1/4 millions dollars, from 1 betting site to another
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A few clicks of a botton...??
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Betfairs share price.
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This has certainly changed:
Last Week25/07/11 - 31/07/11 Gross PL £ 0.00 Commission Generated £ 0.00 + Other Charges £ 0.00 + Total Charges £ 0.00 Total Charges % 0.00 Max possible Premium Charge £ 0.00 Premium Charge [pre-allowance] £ 0.00 Available allowance £ 0.00 Premium Charge Applied £ 0.00 Remaining allowance £ 0.00 |
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the exchange is the same as it always has been ...
theres no liquidity anywhere else ....... nothing changed  really was hoping this time with pc2 but looks like there too strong |
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I've had about 15% more bets matched on purple recently
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Rs1, it surely depends how and what you trade.
For me, I can replicate most of what I did here elsewhere for a fraction of the cost. As Rocket mentions, Purple matching is getting easier gradually, this takes time. |
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A few clicks of a botton...??
and you have to wait on till your bank rings or email and say " we put a stop on you $250k bank wire, and now are just check to see if this was really you who made this wire"  |
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i only do in play footy .... purple doesn't even have anything there most the time and even worse it doesn't even offer all the market s!
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old firm matches have plenty and if u r a layer like me you can get on quite a bit of other footy games - not as much as bf but when u consider the commision difference!!!!
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The difference in the comparison of matched amounts per race has been huge. Obviously they are calculated in a different way over the road, but they also were when they were NOWHERE NEAR the amounts matched here - now they are always close, often in front. A huge swing.
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The penny has dropped with most folk now, you only get what you pay or are charged for and if you want the highest profits possible from the giant of exchanges then moaning or running away to lesser alternatives produces 100% nil reward
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or 10% of comparable liquidity at the duckpond
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Ah, Captain Snorey, right on cue.
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Saying 10% comparable liquidity is bending the truth. It depends on how you play the markets.
If you are a pre-race backer/layer on horses, you have no problem getting decent sums matched over there, just as easily as here. Top league match odds footy the same, as is tennis slams, masters events and so on. You cant just say they have no liquidity without being specific. As for in-play, it has improved but I do agree with Rs1 that there needs to be more markets in football. Even if you just adapted the markets you can play form here to there, its a big cost-saver, so why deny it? What is your real agenda? |
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Given his username, joining date and the fact that he is endlessly on the forum putting one side of one debate, I would say that's pretty transparent funkymonkey.
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i have no agenda ...
its just that after seeing thread after thread about pc2 ... nothing for me has changed .... inplay footy is cack at quack ... i go into a few matches .... most aren't even offered anywhere else only here inplay footy not changed at all .... don't know about the horses aint looked |
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As low as 2% commission on 102% over-rounds, ten fold liquidity of nearest competition and only 20% basic premium charge and 60% for high gain users making the megabucks, still stacks up as the leader in the betting world and haven't they done so well for over 10 years now, well done betfair if I ever get on the pc2 rate they can have my charge payments with pleasure because they deserve every penny for being the best!
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Yes, you are probably right Gerard.
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who is this dunce bf fantastic .... he aint a newbie
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Rs1, the agenda comment was not to you, sorry for confusion.
I was referring to Bf_fanatic and his constant pro-premium charge trolling. |
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why is he doing that
... 60 percent is a joke .... a real bad one its not fair for people like me ... i have no fast pics , cheat etc .... |
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23,s on the other one 21,s here, tiger woods price on wgc, isolated example i know but the "giant of the exchanges" is lacking here.
Why? pc very probably isn,t making it viable for golf market makers to be more competitive. In answer to original question what,s changed,my betfair points,simply because of the above example shows the are alternatives out there,and up to a month or so lethargy was the only reason stopping me. |
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I am the very guy that betfair was designed for, an information guru, the betfair exchange model offers me the best chance of reaping the best profits even after all charges, I want to deal with a betting company that can handle not only my potential liquidity but my profit making skills,If I thought my future actions would damage or hurt the revenues of the company then I wouldn't be happy with my activity.I don't want to bite the hand that feeds me but to co-exist and if betfair had a problem with me and other high gain users I hop they would address the problem promptly in whichever fashion works best for the exchange model, I have faith in them and respect there ideals !
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You do know that the ratio of average users liquidity to pro-traders/bettors at the duckpond is poorer so any newbies or mugs will get creamed off pretty quickly at the duckpond as there double exchange playing, so tread carefully if you move over, there is safety in numbers at betfair another fact that is overlooked by the average punter!
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In fact I wonder what shape the duckponds revenues are in now that the tentacles that dip in betfairs are also in the duckponds only there unchecked, anyone care to project that long term effect?
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After converting matched amounts of both sites to same method, the other one on average was matching just under 10% pre PC3, last week it was just over 20%.
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so I want to lay a horse at 6.2 today. I look on Bf, price is 6.2. I look on the duck, its also 6.2 but with a fraction of the costs.
How am I getting creamed off please? I have worked out my price in advance, decided 6.2 is value, found it offered in 2 places, and one has vastly better incentives to actually place it. Very simple choice. Safety in numbers is what losers believe in. |
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'I am .. an information guru’
'my potential liquidity’ 'my profit making skills’ Pure comedy gold That 20p in your account is gonna grow and grow! Like a weed. I can feel it. If only you’d stop posting on the forum, you’d be a millionaire! |
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Can,t agree with your 14.29 statement bf fanatic, joe punter backs woods at 23,s for £10,return 230,pays £5.50 comm at the moment leaving£225.50 and does same here returns £210 pays £10 comm return £200, quite a big difference and that would be a recreational player.
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Hazel, stop dealing in facts please - nothing has changed, it never will, move on, nothing to see......[;)]
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Betfar share price dipped below £6 today, oh no, not another fact. sorry gerad. I will go back to sleep.
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i really was hoping some pressure would come from somewhere and they would have to step down from pc2
it was a small hope ... i think a lot of work would gone into pc2 and they know its viable for them to charge it as we can't do anything about it an got now where to go |
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The share price dropping is not a great concern just means betfair can buy shares back and those that bought them have lost 60%, ah the money just keeps rolling in
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who says buying back shares is running out of good ideas for a company, betfair never stop having good ideas when it comes to profits
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There is much method in there madness, thats why I love them so much[;)]
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bf_fananatic 02 Aug 11 14:24
I am the very guy that betfair was designed for, an information guru, the betfair exchange model offers me the best chance of reaping the best profits even after all charges, I want to deal with a betting company that can handle not only my potential liquidity but my profit making skills the exchange was designed for guys who have a bet and pay commission have you paid any commission since you joined the forum or are you too busy posting full time 537 posts in 16 days all on the same subject which will never affect you |
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don't even reply to him
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hes a full time troll
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