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stevedaggett
21 Jul 11 22:50
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Betfair sent me an email saying if I bet £150 and it lost I would get a refund of my stake, so I duly complied with the t&cs and it lost, so I claimed my refund.

Now they are saying that it doesnt qualify because it wasnt matched as a single bet at the initial price, and when I adjusted the price to get the matched, I cancelled the unmatched part and created a new bet, therfore it wasnt one £150 bet. What kinda bulls**t is that? Has anyone else been caught by this?

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ZEALOT
When: 21 Jul 11 22:59
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By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 21 Jul 11 23:01
Ooh that is nasty and unfair.
By:
Ghetto Joe
When: 22 Jul 11 00:18
I know they send out those offers to entice back punters who haven't used the site for a while. Doesn't surprise me they'd have some get out clauses to make sure they didn't have to honour the bet.

Good to see they're spending that PC money wisely to entice punters back , even though those punters probably only signed up to arb the £25 freebie in the first place and probably have about 10 accs, they must think xmas has come early with another £150 to arb.
By:
Marxist-Leninist
When: 22 Jul 11 00:39
its not a get out clause though, is it? It clearly states that it only applies to the first bet, ergo you didn't comply with the t&cs
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 22 Jul 11 00:45
Shoot him then eh ?
By:
saint-pilgrim
When: 22 Jul 11 07:58
The problem is clearly stated by the punter: it was the SAME bet.

But the PC (let's protect the losers) company is using a technicality to keep the PC in house (is anyone surprised?)

When he changed the price of the "bet" the system assigned a new bet id to the remaining part. The punter didn't bet twice as it is clearly stated in his post. He just wanted to make sure his ONLY bet would be matched.

But that much PC can't surely be shared back with the losers ...
By:
TheVis
When: 22 Jul 11 08:01
He didn't change the price of his bet:

"I cancelled the unmatched part and created a new bet"
By:
DStyle
When: 22 Jul 11 08:27
time between the first and second bet?

price difference between the first and second bet?
By:
Lori
When: 22 Jul 11 08:34
So they stick to the letter of the law on their bonus T+C when it suits them. Shame they didn't do it on the casino promo.
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 22 Jul 11 11:51
Just awful. 
Try posting on the site feedback forum, stevedagget.  Someone actually got a refund on some charges a couple of weeks ago.
By:
SHAPESHIFTER
When: 22 Jul 11 12:01
tacky
By:
SHAPESHIFTER
When: 22 Jul 11 12:03
Betfair forget sometimes that this is an "exchange".

So players will put up a price and move a bet to hopefully land the "best possible odds" on average.  It would appear as £150 and your average odds.

It seems the promo department doesn't understand how an exchange works.
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 22 Jul 11 12:32
Not sure it's just limited to the promo dept, shapeshifter Laugh
By:
Betfair Community Manager 2
When: 22 Jul 11 13:57
stevedaggett

I saw this earlier and raised it with the Promotions department. As far as I am aware, your account was credited with the money today, but I believe someone was also going to call you directly.

If I can help any further, just let me know.
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 22 Jul 11 14:07
BCM2, you seem to be the man to get things done around here.
Any chance you could get me back on 20%PC please?
By:
slartibartfast
When: 22 Jul 11 16:19
Laugh
By:
takethestand
When: 22 Jul 11 17:32
well done community manager.  the right outcome.  despite many problems, betfair are improving in other ways
By:
Stigblomquist
When: 22 Jul 11 23:38
Yes they changed their mind and gave me the £150 in the end.
By:
jas1968
When: 22 Jul 11 23:44
Surprised they didnt take 60 %  PC of it first .
By:
BJT
When: 23 Jul 11 07:38
I think they put that in their TCs to stop people trading the event getting the profit, then getting the refund as well, not to be pedantic about people chasing the promotion by chasing the odds.  Couldn't imagine that following the right avenues wouldn't get you the refund based on what was done.  Right result and expected result.  Sometimes you just need to follow things up as most of these things would be system generated and obviously 2 bet ids would need human intervention to prove qualification.
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