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By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 21 Jul 11 15:17
Like I said, you made them look bad so they banned you. they can't be seen to support desperados. They can support desperados but they can't be SEEN to support them. Ya see?
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 21 Jul 11 15:18
so whose fault is that for telling them?

you said you were thinking of chasing with borrowed money, what did you expect them to do?
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 21 Jul 11 15:20
I HAVE NOT BORROWED ANY MONEY.
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 21 Jul 11 15:20
And that's not the point. where is the law to say you have to follow strick rules when betting?
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 21 Jul 11 15:24
I imagine whoever grassed him did it for some other reason other than his well being otherwise they'd have been in contact with him, spoken to him and tried to help him. Instead they've hit the report button anonymously and got him banned.

You need to stop gambling but I don't agree with the person who got you banned or Betfair for banning you as both of them did it for the wrong reasons.
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 21 Jul 11 15:27
Sorry but they way I have been treated as a customer after all these years of commision they have taken.. is so so wrong.

Anyone that can't see that would be stupid to think otherwise.
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 21 Jul 11 15:28
Being treated like this is such an injustice it's worth than losing the money. Sat here fuming.
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 21 Jul 11 15:28
Seriously.
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 21 Jul 11 15:30
disagree rocket. if he'd just quietly borrowed the money and gone chasing with it, it's not bf's job to find out where he got the money. but once he tells them by announcing it on here, it's their responsibility to act.

same as if someone mugs an old lady, sticks the money in the bank and bets with it, it's not BF's responsibility. but if they say "I'm thinking of mugging an old lady and sticking it all on horse x", it becomes their responsibility to act.
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 21 Jul 11 15:30
sorry that was meant to read worse than losing the money.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 21 Jul 11 15:30
how comes they cant stop you from forums??
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 21 Jul 11 15:31
You are wrong i never borrowed any money. they reason i was banned was because they think im chasing a loss which everyone on here is doing.
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 21 Jul 11 15:32
Yeah but viva we all know why Betfair did it.

It was because he created a thread in a busy forum populated by regular punters
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 21 Jul 11 15:55
SIR_Bond
19 Jul 11 12:43 Joined: 14 Nov 07 | Topic/replies: 1,666 | Blogger: SIR_Bond's blog
Don't why I said that.. I earn 20k a year Im only 27.

Bank loan could be an option.
If not start with a bank of £100 and
just look to build £5 a day or something.

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case closed
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 21 Jul 11 15:59
An option? and is that agaisnt the law NO.

Notice i put an option because it is one.

I have seen people on here start threads with banks they have got from loans. My last go at this with a bank loan etc.

Anyway I don't need to defend myself against you or anyone else for that matter.
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 21 Jul 11 16:01
viva the point is Betfair only took action because it was muddying their name

Not because they care.

Other than that I agree with everything in the thread.
By:
catfleppo
When: 21 Jul 11 16:12
Mr Bond, read your thread carefully and the reason they have, rightly imo, frozen your account is apparent.  I have heard of other cases where they have done the same (once to a premium customer).  If they suspect someone is getting themselves in too deep they have a duty to act and you have given them every reason to think this about you.
By:
Gerbs
When: 21 Jul 11 16:15
SIR_Bond     20 Jul 11 11:39 
All the winds wins today.

£3000 on at 1/2.


Thanks.
Gerbs     20 Jul 11 11:54 
did you get the bank loan sorted then


SIR_Bond     20 Jul 11 12:02 
Yes
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 21 Jul 11 16:19
Rocket to the FACE Joined: 28 Oct 08
Replies: 13044 21 Jul 11 16:01 
viva the point is Betfair only took action because it was muddying their name

Not because they care.

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I agree. but they were still right to do it.

like all betting companies, if they really cared about losers they'd shut down.
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 21 Jul 11 16:21
Yeap, totally agree.


They were right to do it but they did it because he was brining very public attention to a possible downside of being on Betfair. And Betfair can't have that.
By:
steeringjobnap
When: 21 Jul 11 16:21
their licence depends on shutting down problem gamblers.

1.01 landed.
By:
catfleppo
When: 21 Jul 11 16:22
There's the same difference between sir bond and a run of the mill mug punter as there is between an alcholic and someone who has a few beers on a friday night.
By:
catfleppo
When: 21 Jul 11 16:22
*alcoholic
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 21 Jul 11 16:24
Possibly but he certainly isn't the first to overstake or bet on borrowed money.

I didn't see Odwyer getting banned.
By:
catfleppo
When: 21 Jul 11 16:57
Or Schalke, I guess it comes down to judgement and looking at this thread it seems most people agree.
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 21 Jul 11 17:01
It comes down to bad press for Betfair.

All their responsible gambling sh*t is a legal requirement. The board didn't sit down one day and discuss 'how can we help our most vulnerable clients'
By:
catfleppo
When: 21 Jul 11 17:03
The case I heard of had nothing to do with bad press, just someone going a bit crazy.
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 21 Jul 11 17:05
I'm not sure what case you heard

I'm talking about this boy and his bad habits and the fact Betfair took action once it startd to stain their brand
By:
reb
When: 21 Jul 11 17:51
The story (below) appeared in the Irish Independent on 20th July following on from an earlier story this year. It raises a lot of questions (that'll probably never be asked) for the bookmaker(s) involved :


Suspected €1.76m fraud carried out at post office since January

A SUSPECTED €1.76m fraud at a post office began at the start of the year, the Irish Independent has learned.

Internal audits have indicated the accounts at Gorey post office in Co Wexford balanced up to Christmas.

But investigators believe cash began to be siphoned off from the accounts from January and this continued until three weeks ago when the suspected crime was discovered.

Investigators are still trying to fully determine how the suspected fraud was carried out and inquiries in the post office are continuing.

Detectives from the garda bureau of fraud investigation have been called in to assist local officers.

However, gardai are awaiting further detailed briefings from An Post before stepping up their inquiries.

Meanwhile, a senior manager in the Gorey branch, Tony O'Reilly, who went missing as the suspected fraud was uncovered at the end of June, has begun a treatment programme to help him cope with a gambling addiction and has been transferred from the hospital where he initially received medical help.

Gambling

An Post last night confirmed Mr O'Reilly (36) remained on paid leave from his post.

After Mr O'Reilly turned up unharmed in Belfast four days after his disappearance, his family issued a statement admitting that their son had a gambling addiction, which had spiralled out of control in recent months.

Mr O'Reilly had been a heavy gambler for the past few years and had a long spell of success as a punter before his luck deserted him.

It is understood several million euro had been wagered in betting transactions over that period, including winning as well as losing bets. A large proportion of the bets were placed through online and telephone services provided for customers by a bookmaking firm.

In their statement, the family blamed the availability of those facilities for their son's "predicament".

The family said Tony was "a family man, first and foremost" and his gambling in recent months had been secretive and uncharacteristic.

Mr O'Reilly was reported as missing when he left his home in Carlow town but failed to turn up at the post office in Gorey.

He was later located by the PSNI in Belfast and medical attention was sought for him.

The family said they were seeking help for Tony to recover from "this illness, which is plaguing families across the country".

They added they believed the addiction should be highlighted to prevent other families going through the trauma and torment that they had experienced.

Meanwhile, An Post is expected to examine its audit procedures at other post offices around the country after it completes the internal inquiries at Gorey.
By:
reb
When: 21 Jul 11 17:54
Sir Bond, I haven't read all the thread, but I think Betfair may be doing you a favour. You should seek advice from GamCare to determine whether or not you have a gambling problem.
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 21 Jul 11 18:10
tbf, rocket, that's how capitalism works (or is meant to). firms act in their own economic interests within the law, society makes that law to say what it will and won't accept.

BF didn't make the rules, that's just how it is.
By:
mrbojangles
When: 21 Jul 11 19:02
If depositing funds with borrowed money is taboo why accept credit cards?
By:
Glasgow Brian
When: 21 Jul 11 20:18
25k lost .
disgraceful
By:
Glasgow Brian
When: 21 Jul 11 20:19
you went into it with no plan whatsoever .
By:
thecookiemonster
When: 21 Jul 11 22:41
betfair is snakes and ladders
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 21 Jul 11 22:46
156 posts ( now 157) on this thread.
And I'm called a forum addict ?
By:
thecookiemonster
When: 21 Jul 11 23:10
Everybody on here is addicted whether they know it or not Mischief
By:
ZEALOT
When: 21 Jul 11 23:16
im addicted and i love it /
By:
Footiefan111
When: 21 Jul 11 23:28
sir bond back the draw in the cricket England v India, both teams have strong batting line ups and it will piss down with rain not enough time for there to be a positive result.
By:
MrHunt
When: 22 Jul 11 18:48
SIR_Bond   

I never laughed at others losing money no.

you laughed every time i lost money..only diff is mine was real...your 25k is pretenndee...

yfdsc
Laugh
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