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By:
bobby2424
When: 05 Oct 11 22:43
So you place bets on selections you think are going to lose? I think there is a flaw in your betting stratergy paulme. What do you think?
By:
paulme
When: 05 Oct 11 22:51
no like tonight ive picked 3 darts losers in a row. other day 5 tennis losers in a row.

never make money.

break even at most.

just the way it goes.
By:
bobby2424
When: 05 Oct 11 22:59
How do you 'break even' with 8 losers?
By:
paulme
When: 05 Oct 11 23:03
no i mean overall.
By:
paulme
When: 05 Oct 11 23:43
Darts: -£22.00 | Horse Racing: £3.17 | Tennis: £11.17 | Tote: |  Total P&L:  -£7.66 

Darts Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Darts / Part v Dolan : Match Odds 05-Oct-11 22:15  05-Oct-11 23:37  -22.00


-32 mug acca's. no more
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 06 Oct 11 01:17
Bobby, he breaks even only because he frequently doubles up until he wins.  Take those 5 losers in a row in tennis last week. He started off betting £50 (which was a stupidly high stake for him on a marginal bet). By the time he was onto his fifth loser he was betting £1200 just to make back his money with a few quid on top...  He's a ticking bomb waiting to go off.

The guy has no chance of ever making a profit unless he shapes up. And he's never shown any intention of doing that in the two-three months in which I've known him. Whatever the point of him gambling is, making money most certainly isn't it.
By:
undern
When: 06 Oct 11 10:07
where is the rest of your p&l ... you want others to show them there full p&l yet you show a very small portion of yours Confused
By:
Rob_The_Bantam
When: 06 Oct 11 11:03
paulme

i expect to lose every bet i place


So why not give it up and spend your time on something worthwhile?  Would you do your current job for free?  I think not.  So why do you do this virtually every evening (by the look of it) for no return? 

Even if you do break even over the long run, the commission will be your undoing (apart from those VC bets that always seem to win, but are only aftertimed without any evidence).  I genuinely don't see why you spend hours and hours doing something that you don't enjoy.
By:
bobby2424
When: 06 Oct 11 16:58
LordBobbbin, good point thing is though he does nt 'break even' He lost £7.66. That is not 'breaking even' If he were to 'break even' like that every day he would be down about £2796 every yearLaugh not including his mug accasLaugh
By:
LordBobbbin
When: 06 Oct 11 17:09
Well he lost £7.66 that day. I imagine by now he's slammed down £30 on some random horse, so either he'll be down a bit more, or he'll have made back the £7.66 and will be busy rootling around for something else to chuck away his money on.  I don't think he's going to be around for the long haul...
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 18:45
lol i have slammed a pile on ovens.

won some on pennetta. lost it elsewhere.

ovens will lose
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 18:46
I genuinely don't see why you spend hours and hours doing something that you don't enjoy.

i love gambling Rob. just think it's very difficult. arent 90% of betfair accounts in debt anyway?

bobby - how do you do on here?
By:
dlarssonf
When: 06 Oct 11 19:04
running telling tales and being a snitch is as low as they come Paulme but as you have already proved you have no shameLaugh
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 19:06
zzz larsson you are boring. do people tell you that?

you are a snore-a-minute dude
By:
hejik
When: 06 Oct 11 19:08
hey paulme,

I have some questions if you don't mind? I'm hoping that by asking you these things it might improve my betting skills in some way.


1.) Where do you live?
2.) Do you work?
3.) Will you please post up every bet that you make at least one hour in advance (I will pay you Laugh)?
4.) What is your system?
5.) What is your selection procedure?
6.) Why do you ask everybody these questions?
7.) How thick is your skin?
8.) How old are you?
9.) Are you below average intelligence?
10.)Do you think everybody loses money ?
11.)Do you belive it's possible to win money gambling?
12.) Have you ever tried trading a position rather than guessing who will win?
13.) Have you ever made a profit for the day?
14.) What is your great grandmothers name?
15.) Was your granddad good at betting?
16.) Where does dlarssonf live?
17.) Who is your favourite cartoon character?
18.) Why do you back things to win if you think that they will lose?
19.) Have you ever considered that maybe you aren't very good at gambling and should do something else?
20.) How many languages can you speak?
21.) Do you own a Spanish Villa?
22.) What shoe size are you? Maybe you could make a system based on that? (A stupid system with that selects to a standard is still better than no system at all)?
23.) Are you bald?
24.) How much money does your wife (or "partner") earn each day from betting?
25.) Which Newspaper do you read? (Daily Star fellas - 1.20)?
26.) how long is your shin?
27.) What grade GCSE did you get for mathematics?
28.) Do you prefer turtles or giraffes if you had to pick one for a pet?
29.) My wife went shopping today and purchased 2 little figurines that link together in an embrace. One is blue, one is green. One is for salt, the other is for pepper. My question to you is which one is male? And what is the probability that you could give me colour/ gender / contents purely by guessing?
By:
hejik
When: 06 Oct 11 19:09
oh

and

30.) Why do you ask so many stupid questions and in which way do you think it will help you? Is it just because you want to be people pal?
By:
dlarssonf
When: 06 Oct 11 19:10
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By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 19:17
Is it just because you want to be people pal? Confused

haha you have too much time on your hands.

1-29 = heydrich go play on the road mate.

...you have a wife? Shocked

Laugh
By:
hejik
When: 06 Oct 11 19:19
please answer the questions paulme. i am a nice guy really. it will really help me to start winning money if you tell me the answers to all of these questions


1.) Where do you live?
2.) Do you work?
3.) Will you please post up every bet that you make at least one hour in advance (I will pay you )?
4.) What is your system?
5.) What is your selection procedure?
6.) Why do you ask everybody these questions?
7.) How thick is your skin?
8.) How old are you?
9.) Are you below average intelligence?
10.)Do you think everybody loses money ?
11.)Do you belive it's possible to win money gambling?
12.) Have you ever tried trading a position rather than guessing who will win?
13.) Have you ever made a profit for the day?
14.) What is your great grandmothers name?
15.) Was your granddad good at betting?
16.) Where does dlarssonf live?
17.) Who is your favourite cartoon character?
18.) Why do you back things to win if you think that they will lose?
19.) Have you ever considered that maybe you aren't very good at gambling and should do something else?
20.) How many languages can you speak?
21.) Do you own a Spanish Villa?
22.) What shoe size are you? Maybe you could make a system based on that? (A stupid system with that selects to a standard is still better than no system at all)?
23.) Are you bald?
24.) How much money does your wife (or "partner") earn each day from betting?
25.) Which Newspaper do you read? (Daily Star fellas - 1.20)?
26.) How long is your shin?
27.) What grade GCSE did you get for mathematics?
28.) Do you prefer turtles or giraffes if you had to pick one for a pet?
29.) My wife went shopping today and purchased 2 little figurines that link together in an embrace. One is blue, one is green. One is for salt, the other is for pepper. My question to you is which one is male? And what is the probability that you could give me colour/ gender / contents purely by guessing?
30.) Why do you ask so many stupid questions and in which way do you think it will help you? Is it just because you want to be peoples pal?
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 19:23
ok i'll answer everyone when you sort out your grammar.

30.) Why do you ask so many stupid questions and in which way do you think it will help you? Is it just because you want to be peoples pal?

WTF
By:
hejik
When: 06 Oct 11 19:25
ok well pal is another word for friend. We use it generally when dealing with "simple minded" folk i think these days. If you substitute "pal" for "mate" you'll be on the right track.

Looking forward to your answers
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 19:27
oh yeah i answered them and they all came out the same anwswer.

it abbreviates to this: FOADYDC

HTH
By:
hejik
When: 06 Oct 11 19:30
surely you would need 30 letters?
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 19:31
how so?
By:
hejik
When: 06 Oct 11 19:33
well there are 30 questions. how did you abbreviate all those answers into an 8 letter acronym?
please answer this as it might help me with my betting
By:
hejik
When: 06 Oct 11 19:43
there's something else

31.) Have you ever eaten snails?

Thanks. looking forward to your answers
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 19:46
[smiley:crazy]

no snails have you?
By:
hejik
When: 06 Oct 11 19:48
no, will you answer the rest please paulme. that last answer really helped me. thanks
By:
hejik
When: 06 Oct 11 20:11
please can you answer the questions paulme?

1.) Where do you live?
2.) Do you work?
3.) Will you please post up every bet that you make at least one hour in advance (I will pay you )?
4.) What is your system?
5.) What is your selection procedure?
6.) Why do you ask everybody these questions?
7.) How thick is your skin?
8.) How old are you?
9.) Are you below average intelligence?
10.)Do you think everybody loses money ?
11.)Do you belive it's possible to win money gambling?
12.) Have you ever tried trading a position rather than guessing who will win?
13.) Have you ever made a profit for the day?
14.) What is your great grandmothers name?
15.) Was your granddad good at betting?
16.) Where does dlarssonf live?
17.) Who is your favourite cartoon character?
18.) Why do you back things to win if you think that they will lose?
19.) Have you ever considered that maybe you aren't very good at gambling and should do something else?
20.) How many languages can you speak?
21.) Do you own a Spanish Villa?
22.) What shoe size are you? Maybe you could make a system based on that? (A stupid system with that selects to a standard is still better than no system at all)?
23.) Are you bald?
24.) How much money does your wife (or "partner") earn each day from betting?
25.) Which Newspaper do you read? (Daily Star fellas - 1.20)?
26.) How long is your shin?
27.) What grade GCSE did you get for mathematics?
28.) Do you prefer turtles or giraffes if you had to pick one for a pet?
29.) My wife went shopping today and purchased 2 little figurines that link together in an embrace. One is blue, one is green. One is for salt, the other is for pepper. My question to you is which one is male? And what is the probability that you could give me colour/ gender / contents purely by guessing?
30.) Why do you ask so many stupid questions and in which way do you think it will help you? Is it just because you want to be peoples pal?
31.) Have you ever eaten snails?
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 20:12
as i say the answer to all is FOADYDC

HTH
By:
ocean0201
When: 06 Oct 11 20:15
how can you get threads removed, paulme ? r u a moderator or something? wow thats impressive.. 9 months here, 4k posts and onw moderator
By:
Rob_The_Bantam
When: 06 Oct 11 20:15
Why do you expect answers to your hundreds of questions, but won't answer 30 of hejik's, paul?
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 20:17
zzz how's it going Rob?
By:
Rob_The_Bantam
When: 06 Oct 11 20:19
Tut tut, paul.  Don't answer a question with a question.

If you answer the 30 questions, it will give me a better understanding of your gambling style and assist in me in providing you with important information on how to be profitable on here.
By:
dlarssonf
When: 06 Oct 11 20:20
Grin
By:
hejik
When: 06 Oct 11 20:30
I don't know what that means though? is that what your system is called?

I will assume the following answers for you and you can correct me


1.) With my mummy and daddy
2.) Still at high school
3.) Only the ones that lose. All my secret winners are made at VC
4.) Beg other people for tips and lump on. Or try and get my hero Undern to post his bets in advance
5.) Copy other people, cross fingers, hope
6.) Because I want to be their mate
7.) Don't know as still growing. (only 13)
8.) 13
9.) Yes
10.) Undern is the only person in the world that wins money on betfair
11.) Only if you copy undern
12.) No. Don't know what trading is
13.) Only when I have a bet at VC and don't tell anyone until after it's won
14.) Sandra (she is only 50)
15.) He was better than me but not as good as Undern
16.) Don't know he won't tell me
17.) Patrick off spongebob (Can sort of relate to him)
18.) All bets lose
19.) I am good I am just unlucky
20.) I can just about get by in English
21.) Used to - had to remortgage it to keep on betting
22.) This is a stupid question. The system I am working on is based on wind currents
23.) I wasn't 3 months ago before I blew my bank
24.) Don't have one I am only 13
25.) Can't read
26.) 3 inches
27.) Currently studying
28.) I used to have a turtle and if they had a turtle racing market I would probably be able to give better tips on it than Undern
29.) I don't know what the probability is but I am going to put my whole bank on male being blue at 1.36
30.) Because i think they will like me and tell me their systems if I am their pal
31.) School canteen doesn't have the budget for snails
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 20:32
Laugh you really have too much time on your hands. i have one for you, you said you're married:

1. is your wife ugly?
By:
hejik
When: 06 Oct 11 20:33
no shes beautiful and likes successful men
By:
paulme
When: 06 Oct 11 20:34
blind deaf and dumb then?
By:
hejik
When: 06 Oct 11 20:36
if you answer all of the questions politely paul I will PM you a profitable "system" that you start using straight away and you will make money as long as you stick to the rules and accept it has to be a long term plan .

I will send it as soon as you answers these questions to my satisfaction
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