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Second Time Around
21 Mar 11 14:10
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I have never started a forum topic or been heavily involved in the forum however having set my stall out to achieve the above from a starting bank of £10000, I just wondered who would be interested in seeing this evolve?

I have scratched around on Betfair for a while however lack of discipline has made me break even over the last 2 years.

I am now determined to achieve the above in order to do this full time, I am currently doing this part time whilst running my own business but hope to hand things over to a manager in order to do this full time.

There may not be a bet every day and it is not ALL IN as I have seen alot of these threads, There will be a lot of trading etc...so how do people want to see the results....People may say no thanks....just wondered as I hoped this would keep me more focused!
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Report Winner_of_all-the-TIME March 25, 2011 8:12 AM GMT
Backing New Zeland and hoping to lay them at lower odds and green out on SA.. [;)]
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 8:22 AM GMT
WOATT I just cant see SA being anything more than 1.5 at any time so hope you take your Green then.
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 8:38 AM GMT
Great Start
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 8:47 AM GMT
Took the extra £250 I put in out at 1.26 and adjusted my lay to 1.17
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 8:54 AM GMT
Job Done

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South Africa  1.36  £2,331.00  £844.16 
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  £2,331.00   
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South Africa  1.18  £2,350.00  £2,772.00 £422.00 
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  £2,350.00   

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Report undern March 25, 2011 9:27 AM GMT
nice one.
Report Winner_of_all-the-TIME March 25, 2011 9:44 AM GMT
time to lay SA.. Second Time [;)]
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 10:08 AM GMT
Mate I layed at 1.17, Have £20 NZ £422 SA, feel just as strongly as I did 3 hours ago of the outcome.
Report GoldG March 25, 2011 10:24 AM GMT
You going in again now the price is back up?
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 10:47 AM GMT
GoldG, no I have made my money (Said they wouldnt hit 1.5 and they wont)
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 1:26 PM GMT
Just had 2k at 1.13, lay in there for 2k at 1.1
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 1:44 PM GMT
Well snatched another £60 before the wicket.
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 1:59 PM GMT
Nicked another £40 Backing at 1.16 and laying at 1.14...but I will leave it there...too much hard work, happy with my position.
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 2:40 PM GMT
14:40 lay calusa Caldera at 23 for £40.
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 2:49 PM GMT
Bank £11295...14:50 Lay Moon Melody @10.5 for £75.
SA trying there best to throw it away.
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 2:51 PM GMT
Gone in with another £1k at 1.89 on SA
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 2:56 PM GMT
Bank £11369
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 2:57 PM GMT
15:00 Lay Jackie Love for £50 at 7.6
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 3:01 PM GMT
Had another 200 @ 2.06 on SA
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 3:05 PM GMT
Another £100 at 3.75 on SA
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 3:06 PM GMT
Bank £11416.
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 3:07 PM GMT
15:10 Lay Hong Kong Harry 9.23 for £100.
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 3:10 PM GMT
Laid NZ at 1.29 for another £350.
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 3:12 PM GMT
Put a lay in for SA at 2 for £1400.
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 3:13 PM GMT
Well not a good time in the last hour. Still remain focused.
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 3:18 PM GMT
15:25 Lay City ground at 11 for £50.
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 3:28 PM GMT
Incredibly I am going to end up losing £1100 on the cricket. Silly mistake.
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 3:35 PM GMT
15.35 Lay Hinton Admiral for £300 @ 2.66
Report askari1 March 25, 2011 3:35 PM GMT
OK but keep calm and think whether you also want to take a loss on City Ground
Report Second Time Around March 25, 2011 3:49 PM GMT
Closed up hop. Good Call. Still fingers crossed on cricket!
Report Postman Pat March 25, 2011 4:08 PM GMT
bad luck with the cricket.
I think you got abit carried away for a moment.
all the best with the rest of the journey.
Report buzzer March 25, 2011 4:11 PM GMT
You appear to lose the plot when a bet/trade goes against you so i'd just withdraw your bank and spend it on something you need/want.
Report Da Daddy March 25, 2011 4:21 PM GMT
Second Time Around - judging by the bets you placed today, I'd agree completely with buzzer. 

In your original post you said "I have scratched around on Betfair for a while however lack of discipline has made me break even over the last 2 years".  IMO you still lack that discipline.  Based on today, the chances of you getting even close to £250,000 are very slim to none.
Report ditchbert March 25, 2011 4:24 PM GMT
Da Daddy. Unfortunately i reckon you are being just a tad optimistic there.
Report THE-POWER March 25, 2011 4:32 PM GMT
keep going and take away your emotion from all bets.. MACHINE MAN
Report tinkyvinky March 25, 2011 6:02 PM GMT
not a fycking chance
Report U.A. March 25, 2011 8:13 PM GMT
Hello there Second Time Around.

For what it is worth I think that your problem is that you are over-staking in your in-play trading. As anything can happen when a market is in-play your stake should be equivalent to if you were having a bet.

At times it seems you've got up to 10% of your bank on a position in-play. This to me is too high. When the prices go against you, you are faced with the prospect of losing £1000, which is so unpleasant that you then find yourself taking extra risks just to avoid such a big loss. Your indiscipline stems from your over-staking.

Just my observation, good luck however you proceed.
Report marky sparky March 26, 2011 10:51 AM GMT
Crazy risking £1100 in-play and not closely managing it with only a 10k bank
Report askari1 March 26, 2011 12:54 PM GMT
To me yr prob. was the chase bet on a horse Hinton Admiral that has a history of coming to hand quickly. Wd you have taken this bet had you not been down on the cricket?

What sport(s) do you know better than the balance of opinion on here (supposing that for the most potentially lucrative sports the balance is informed by the opinion of experts and winners)?

You must also focus on the fact that your horse losses were over half as large again as on cricket.
Report Rs1 March 26, 2011 5:08 PM GMT
marky sparky     26 Mar 11 10:51 
Crazy risking £1100 in-play and not closely managing it with only a 10k bank

thats wha i was thinking ... madness

no wonder you keep breaking even
Report sevey March 26, 2011 9:47 PM GMT
2nd Have You Chucked Al/Ready
Report thegiggilo March 26, 2011 10:40 PM GMT
One of the funniest things i've ever read.
Report haylo March 27, 2011 10:35 AM BST
nothing worse than greening out for a healthy profit, only to get an itchy button finger and end up losing loads.

when you green out, go and have a bath, make love to the girlfriend/or boyfriend, animal, whatever your into.

Good luck with your bets, this may be just a blip, i hope, discipline is the key, take that SA bet as a one off, a warning
Report greedkillsmybankagain March 27, 2011 3:16 PM BST
followers are getting restless
Report ocean0201 March 28, 2011 10:49 PM BST
so is this over or u taking a break?
Report armagnac March 29, 2011 12:10 AM BST
you not seen the new thread:

Third Time Around
Report ocean0201 March 30, 2011 12:32 AM BST
LaughLaughLaugh
Report Kamikaze City March 30, 2011 1:09 AM BST
was reading with interest, where ya gone man?
Report Over2.5 March 30, 2011 3:02 AM BST
This died of death LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Avocado March 30, 2011 9:03 AM BST
He threw up when NZ won.
Report ocean0201 March 31, 2011 11:44 AM BST
but i dont get it.. he was up around 1.5k and he lost 1100 on cricket and 450 or so on horse... So still in profit... unless he staked well over what he posted here and lost more money i dont see why not continue
Report jtothev March 31, 2011 6:51 PM BST
These challenges always end in failure. Why put a time limit on your attempt to get to a certain amount of money, it's always gonna lead to over-staking which in turn will lead to loss chasing. How you cope with losses is the key to being successful and guessing by the lack of betting activity from second time around I'd say he should give up on the betting it's not for him.
Report marky sparky March 31, 2011 7:48 PM BST
Serious bit of advice for OP.

Make a diary at the beginning of the month what events you will trade/bet on and stick to it.  If you win great, if you lose it's all part of the journey but never ever stray from the plan.
Report jtothev March 31, 2011 8:01 PM BST
..Make a diary at the beginning of the month what events you will trade/bet on and stick to it.  If you win great, if you lose it's all part of the journey but never ever stray from the plan.

And keep a record of ALL bets placed so that you can look back and see where you're going right/wrong.
Report armagnac March 31, 2011 9:21 PM BST
leave it out guys, he's probably been run over by a bus or summit Plain
Report Winner_of_all-the-TIME March 31, 2011 9:42 PM BST
broken at an early age Sad
Report Avocado March 31, 2011 11:56 PM BST
[;)]
Report Second Time Around April 6, 2011 2:51 PM BST
Hi guys, nice to come back and see your remarks, (Good and bad) I withdrew the profit I had for a week away in Portugal playing golf, After that bad day I needed to refocus, i agree with alot of what has been said with regard to over trading...fear not I have returned and the goal remains the same. I said I would learn things along the way!
Report undern April 6, 2011 3:35 PM BST
Good luck with your challenge. Nice and steady ...
Report Second Time Around April 6, 2011 4:24 PM BST
Right here goes...I have today topped up the account by 15k and it sits at £25107 right now. I felt 10k was not enough to get me to where I want to be (For all the cynics, yes it is money I can afford to lose but dont want to!) There will be no more deposits...just the target date of 31/12/2011.
I have just laid Tiger Woods to win the Masters 2011 @ 13 for £1100.
I have thought for a week over my next bet and this one has not left my top 3 for the week whichever way I look at it. I have a back of 95 for £200 in running.

So do I withdraw anything over 25k each week? Your thoughts please genuinely on whether I should withdraw regularly or not?
Report askari1 April 6, 2011 4:51 PM BST
STA: First I wd get a spreadsheet so you can show yr ongoing progress to anyone reading the thread.

Personally I cannot understand yr working: you say you lost 1,100 on the cricket and also had winning lays on Hinton Admiral (for 498), City Ground (for 500) and Calusa Caldera (you suggest for 880, but this may be a typo and you actually laid 40 pounds at 12, so for 480). Against a win on the horses of 100 less comm, this gives you horse losses of 1,380 or so and cricket losses of 1,100 since you last gave a figure for your bank.


This fig. was 1,416, so I wd have you at about 8,936 before you topped up. Either you had more bets or you're missing something or something is not clearly laid out so people can't follow.

Supposing you have an edge and winning strategy, the reason for posting yr bets is to make sure that you don't kid y/s and to make you think twice b/f doing anything rash. Why not be utterly consistent and be anal about stating yr bank and liabilities after every bet? If this slows you down, you are betting too fast.
Report askari1 April 6, 2011 5:25 PM BST
B/f you think about withdrawing, I have further advice about yr punting.

I think you need to be more considered evaluating yr bets on a bet-by-bet basis. For each bet, whether you write it down here or not, you need to have a sense of its expected value (in other words, what wd you have to be paid for someone to buy the bet off you)?

You say that you've laid Tiger in the Masters at 13 and put a back up at 95. Does this mean that you think him a true 94-1 shot? Do you think that over an infinite no. of runs, yr Tiger bet will return on average 74.59 pounds (98.9474 times in a 100 winning 87.08 or so minus 1.0526 times in a 100 losing 1,100 over the no. of attempts). Wd you sell yr bet to me for 74 pounds, and if so, are you betting rationally?

(Actually your bet on these assumptions is just over half-Kelly, but that cd be by chance).

Do NOT say 'I have a feeling Tiger will lose, I'm saying around 100-1 to avoid regret but my gut is that he has no chance'. You need to estimate yr actual sense of his chance and stake accordingly.

In recording yr bets, you will have runs when you 'over-win' against yr expectations and runs where you 'under-win'. You shd be pleased w/ the former but not get carried away. Equally, you shd not suppose that the latter are just 'bad luck'. Winning bettors win b/c they are up against people who will always say they had bad luck.

Btw, everyone, pls excuse any bad arithmetic--I'm writing at a rush while running requests and am terrible at arithmetic, wh/ somehow has always been for me separate from the principles[smiley:crazy]
Report askari1 April 6, 2011 5:26 PM BST
STA's stated bank was 11,416--bad typing already...
Report U.A. April 6, 2011 8:50 PM BST
Hello there Second Time around.

According to my calculatiions if you want to get to 250K by the end of the year you have to make over 6K a week, which is close to 1K a day assuming that you never take a day off. That is a big return anyway yet alone if you want to keep your bank only at £25K by making regular withdrawals.
Report ocean0201 April 7, 2011 10:20 PM BST
if u cannot do it with 10k, why do u think u can do it with 25k?
whats the significance of 31st dec 2011?
will u be happy with 200k?
Report Second Time Around April 8, 2011 5:15 AM BST
I am not kidding anyone, I just cant be bothered to post each bet up here as proof, but here is this mornings.
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Portland Trail Blazers  1.24  £500.33  £120.08 
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  £500.33 

And before you say it is not random, thought about this one all day yesterday. (Well maybe not all day)
Report Second Time Around April 8, 2011 6:03 AM BST
Winner Winner. Bank now £25116. (Obviously not taking into account the Masters Lay)
Report undern April 8, 2011 8:13 AM BST
Well done Second Time Around with the selections - keep it going. If you go to the 'Account Statement' section of your account - you can quickly just copy and paste your bet(s) for each day. It includes all the reference details and stake etc.

All the best with the challenge.
Report Second Time Around April 8, 2011 2:07 PM BST
14:10 lay the bishops baby for £100 @ 10
Report askari1 April 8, 2011 5:31 PM BST
STA, my concern for people on threads on this type is not that the poster fails to reach their target but that they suffer a big loss wh/ they're sure is a freak, deposit heavily again, then lose unluckily for another whopping loss.

Can you afford to lose 25k if this happens to you?

I wd also record / report yr bets much more fully (for each bet) to keep y/s honest.
Report Second Time Around April 11, 2011 8:28 AM BST
Well, that was brown trouser time for about 30 minutes last night! Bank £26050. Will post todays a little later.
Report Second Time Around April 11, 2011 8:31 AM BST
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Australia  1.11  £1,152.85  £126.81 
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  £1,152.85   
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Report the mo April 11, 2011 8:39 AM BST
I'd be wary of accumulating much cash in your account.

http://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27434753/f...
Report the mo April 11, 2011 8:39 AM BST
I'd be wary of accumulating much cash in your account.

http://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27434753/f...
Report Second Time Around April 11, 2011 9:45 AM BST
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Mikhail Youzhny  1.85  £1,450.00  £1,226.50 
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Report Second Time Around April 11, 2011 11:06 AM BST
Have laid out at 1.48.

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Mikhail Youzhny  1.85  £1,450.00  £1,226.50 
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  £1,450.00   
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Mikhail Youzhny  1.48  £1,500.00  £2,220.00 £720.00 
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  £1,500.00   

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Report Second Time Around April 11, 2011 12:38 PM BST
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Juan Ignacio Chela  1.54  £1,000.00  £542.99 
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Report Second Time Around April 11, 2011 12:39 PM BST
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Richard Gasquet  1.78  £1,000.00  £778.84 
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Report Second Time Around April 11, 2011 1:20 PM BST
Juan Ignacio Chela      £1,110.00 £110.00
Report Second Time Around April 11, 2011 8:56 PM BST
Will cut and paste later but today has been a very good day, including a lay of Man City.
Report Second Time Around April 12, 2011 12:46 PM BST
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Delhi Daredevils  2.4  £2,333.61  £3,278.45 
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  £2,333.61   
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Delhi Daredevils  2.32  £2,000.00  £4,640.00 £2,640.00 
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Report Second Time Around April 13, 2011 9:49 AM BST
£1000 on Gasquet at 1.56, lay in there at 1.16
Report Second Time Around April 13, 2011 10:39 AM BST
Lay matched...get in great start 2 day.
Report Second Time Around April 13, 2011 1:42 PM BST
For anyone interested!!

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Chennai Super Kings  1.42  £1,608.05  £675.38 
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  £1,608.05   
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Chennai Super Kings  1.1  £1,700.00  £1,870.00 £170.00 
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Report raspberrybottom April 13, 2011 5:25 PM BST
Keep nibbling along mate !

Good luck with it.
Report Second Time Around April 14, 2011 9:40 AM BST
Profit and loss last 7 days Below

Basketball: £460.78 | Cricket: £1,873.44 | Football: £1,088.74 | Golf: £109.77 | Horse Racing: £2,969.84 | Rugby Union: -£260.71 | Tennis: £1,410.56 | Tote: |  Total P&L:  £7,652.42
Report sevey April 14, 2011 9:52 AM BST
Nice going 2nd Golf what happend there only 110 Profit
Report Second Time Around April 14, 2011 10:00 AM BST
Laid off some when it got a bit risky.
Report undern April 14, 2011 10:38 AM BST
I am sure you have some avid followers including myself - so all the very best with it.

If you doing this genuinely - then how about you post up all your bets including bet ref and date/time stamp so everyone can see how the figures all stack up and when you have greened up inrunning.

Have a good day betting today.
Report dddddew April 14, 2011 12:27 PM BST
undern doesnt believe u
Report undern April 14, 2011 12:32 PM BST
I am sure he is doing it for real - and I certainly wish him all the best with it (because as you know I am doing my own challenge) - however I also like to see all the bets that are placed etc to get a good feel for how is going and what sort of plays/strategies he incorporates.
Report buzzer April 19, 2011 12:03 PM BST
another holiday ConfusedSilly
Report Second Time Around April 21, 2011 1:08 PM BST
No Buzzer, just not done alot. Any how I have just opened a **** account as this site is going down far too often.
Report U.A. May 1, 2011 1:07 PM BST
Hello there Second Time Around.

There seems to be an awfully large amount of quiet time on this thread for such a "genuine" attempt. Time is ticking.

Any updates????
Report Second Time Around May 7, 2011 6:08 PM BST
Sorry U.A Been hard to keep on here as doing alot on the move on iphone and ipad.
Done Nothing Major, bank stands at £29950 right now, with a current bet of £1000 on less than 4.5 goals in the Spurs v Blackpool game. Will cut and paste.
Report Second Time Around May 7, 2011 6:09 PM BST
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Under 4.5 Goals      £1,020.00 £20.00 
   Ref: 14682504014 Bet placed: 17:49 07-May-11
 
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Bet Status: The following bets were successfully matched Current Odds bets   Order by Matched Date 
   
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Under 4.5 Goals  1.3  £1,000.00  £303.64 
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  £1,000.00
Report Second Time Around May 9, 2011 11:28 AM BST
£947 ON GILES SIMON TO BEAT RODDICK 1.49
Report Second Time Around June 8, 2011 3:23 PM BST
Yes this is still going and I have not done alot lately (Time to review my date aspect??) £30700 bank stands at right now. Cqan i get to 250k this year?? Not been doing much as so busy with work!
Report Second Time Around June 11, 2011 9:39 AM BST
Your
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Your
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Your
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Under 3.5 Goals

1.61

£1,815.15

£1,098.42

































Under 3.5 Goals








£50.00





Ref: 15121498670 Bet placed: 09:31 11-Jun-11




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Under 3.5 Goals

1.61

£1,815.15

£1,098.42









£1,815.15

















































































































































































Under 3.5 Goals








£50.00





Ref: 15121498670 Bet placed: 09:31 11-Jun-11




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Under 3.5 Goals

1.61

£1,815.15

£1,098.42









£1,815.15
Report Second Time Around July 26, 2011 12:44 PM BST
I put my hand up.....making such a ridiculous target whilst I had no time to actually trade properly on here.
Now I have employed someone to basically run most of the business, I am now starting afresh with a £3000 bank (No i did not lose the £25k) Actually made about £1200 but made some big mistakes which could have lost me alot. My new target is £250 per day (When I bet) Todays was Niemenen in tennis backed below. Advise required....lots of small trades or a bigger one trade??

Jarkko Nieminen

1.71

£400.00

£284.83









£400.00























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Jarkko Nieminen

1.18

£450.00

£81.00









£450.00
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