Clacher, over the years only a couple have gone on to analyse results and back them but with little success. One guy did a study of irish results at Galway and was down there one night and he picked a winner, told me to back it (I didn't) and it won in a very dodgy photo at 4/9. Hardly profitable ! (The photo had been rubber stamped "OFFICIAL PHOTOGRAPH" over the nose of the 6 dog so you could not see if it had done the jolly !)
Obviously I can't be too specific but in general terms they prove that graders underestimate young improving dogs and that they frequently underestimate the dogs starting yardage in handicaps. As well as that they used correlation to show there was hardly any evidence to prove a perceived track bias from the results of 99% of meetings and more recently they have shown that the bags "gambles" aren't profitable at all unless you get the early prices. All information that anyone who knows anything about dog racing would probrably know anyway !

Clacherholiday 2.. zip here .. any track any grade    there is about  .20 spots between  all six   dogs . thats about  2   yards in old money ..thats why its hard to win  backing in  graded races .... now Open Racing  thats  another Story ..  in graded races zip is a layer  .. open races  zip is a backer .

Lee h2  iam only guessing  but i think i know who you are . what name did i bet under .. no can tell   . aint  been to Belle Vue for  12 years .. but i could go throw the card with losers .
Heres Four   first four races .
2.18 Trap...2
2.37 Trap ..3
2.57 Trap.. 3
3.17 Trap .. 4

None today then ryan ?....

p s thats the difference ...

Lee h2 you are getting mixed up  re BAGS Bookies  at the white city, hey this aint  any no criticsm   it was   after all  40 years ago  Len Walton  bet at B/V  .. Jack Lomas  Bet at Bolton  flapping  track .. you missed me Grandad .. talking  about Bolton  The Flap in the North  all the Champions  Dogs ran there  under   different   names.. the market was very strong   Two  bookies  Jimmy Burns  . and  Maurice Lindsey  .. boss of Wigan  Rugby .. both  were  bookies  at Bolton   .. and  they were proper bookies  ....you could be on ...

Lee2... just to tease  you  The White City  Manchester   1970. and i aint one of these men .. do you remember  Run Away Tony  .. John The Judge .. The Priest Father John..And that Legen Preston Roy .. them were the days  .. Greyform  was the bible ..

yep I remember them ( apart from Preston Roy)

Run Away Tony died a few months ago...expect you know that.

They were happy days. The game is struggling now though.

BV couldn't even getb the hare working for wednesdays BAGS. Management Useless.

GL to  you

Lee h2  thanks to Betfair  any punter  can sit at home   .. play  bookie  play punter .. no  hours on the roads,   hours in a car  and all that  .. back  / lay  any race .. if you dont have an opinion  stay out .......bliss

That's a bit strong clacher.

DaveEdwards   

i just dont like some of guys (no names) who have posted on the daily dogs topic over the past few years who are delighted to hear their lay doing backflips on bend 1 for the sake of winning a fiver.

i just like dogs more than i like gambling, its just me though and never actively try and put people off it as everyones different.

if a boxer or a football breaks a bone you can explain to them why its happened, you cant explain to a dog why its in pain, sadly its all to easy to predict which dogs are likely to tumble about.

Where's Ryan gone?

I'm just about to read your thread on the doggie forum.

Don't let the b@stards get your down!