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is discipline an edge?
is discipline an edge?
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as is 76,549,000
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your numbers are meaningless, mine is the number of bf accounts
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we are not numbers, we are free men, we will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered.
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It works like the old Fund Manager Story.
Out of 100% of people betting lets say 50% get lucky out of those 50 % another 50 % get lucky with their next Bet, and so forth. the last 100 Guys whom always got lucky end up in massive profits and think they are some kind of special gifted God running the Chips to the final Table so to speak. Its much like our modern Education System works. A bunch of illiterate ****s get lucky by catching the right questions in their Final Examination and end up becoming rich fat barstewards running the government. As we Germans acknowledged that fact from the beginning we employed a bunch of useless Morons to run the whole show stright from the start saving everyone the trouble and the ressources. Its really easy if you think it trhough. :) |
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I make a modest living on here and its mostly discipline and patience that allow me to do that.They are far more my edge than any selection process I have.Thats also probably because I am more of an form/gut feeling type betting person rather than a computer whizzkid who knows he's getting 1.8 on a 1.7 shot.So, for my type of betting with a very loose strategy, where the difference between having a bet and not having a bet or having a small bet versus having a large bet, discipline and patience are all important.Another factor that goes hand in hand with these is resilience.Without resilience its hard to have either patience or discipline.Its often easy to have patience and discipline when things are going well but its when things are not going well, thats when character and resilience are called for.
From reading what others had to say about Chip Reese its seems one of his great strengths was his abilty to manage both himself and his money. In his own words..."Its the guys that do it every day.Whether your a hundred points winner or a hundred points loser, your going to play the same way.Your not going to get flustered.You not going to fire off your money when your stuck." An interesting quote from gambling wizards about Doyle Brunsen, "Doyle Brunsen sits in poker room in Las Vegas.He studies the people around the table,waiting for a crack in their game,looking for a weakness.He'll sit Buddha-like,for 10 hours,20 hours,at a stretch,however long it takes to get the money.He just sits in smoke filled rooms waiting for a player to go on tilt." In the same book Chip Reese talks about the will to win. "You take two guys on a football field.One is 6'4" and 250 pounds.They both run the 40 yard dash in 4.2 seconds or whatever.They both bench-press 400 pounds.They both try out for a team and one guy you never hear from again,while the other guy goes into the hall of fame.They both have all the same talents and potential.But there's something that make some people win.Its a will to win.Its...I don't know how to describe it." For me its the intangible qualities that allow a loser to become a winner or allow a winner to take it to the next level.Its a world that we have to discover for ourselves.We can continue to learn from others about it but its a magical realm almost with a vastness of untapped energy and potential that awaits all those who explore its possibilities. |
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I make a modest living on here
Why are you boasting about it then? |
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I get the feeling that Speakthetruth is not boasting but merely telling it as it is.
The majority of players have no long term prospects of coming even close to making a modest living on Botfair. |
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I'm certain Speakthetruth is, indeed speaking the truth, as
no one could put up a post like that unless he was. A modest living ? Of course it is possible, but not me as it happens, cos I already have my income to live on so treat my betting here as a hobby. It's still important to try and do it as well as possible as one would do with any hobby. |
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i make a million a week on here, i give most of it away to charity and fund wars sometimes too
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I pretend to be a despotic dictator, take Avocado's war funding and secretly stick it on any forumites tip that begins ***CAST IRON FREE MONEY***. Then when it loses, wish I had bought some guns after all so at least I could shoot myself.
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it keeps me in pants.
of many colours. |
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I cannot believe this thread has gone on for so long!
Of course discipline is not an edge. It is a means to exploiting the edge once established. How many 2%ers have contributed to this thread so far? I suspect none, other than those that have made, in some way or other, the point above. |
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"Of course discipline is not an edge.
It is a means to exploiting the edge once established." Yeah this is pretty much right..and I started this thread. Although if im honest i have never been a 2%er, 3% is my greatest achievement so far. But whatever... discipline is a way to exploit an edge..this sums this stupid thread up after so long, good work all. |
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Well said LMansini, and, like me you do cricket (I admire your knowledgable postings).
Best wishes |
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i should have known with a name like beefie you made your profits on cricket
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you can't make profit on cricket
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please dont confuse 'you' with 'not many people' the second option is right, the first not so |
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My first word on the opening post. I would imagine that discipline HELPS,
but how one measures it, I don't know. Occasionally I have a bet during a match which may or may not, be influenced by how my existing bet(s) are faring at the time. I have a lot of things going through my head at certain times and the unusual situations are the most difficult to deal with, like West Ham leading 2-0 and I could see that Manu were not going to come back from that as they do. That was not the same ManU who were 2 down to villa recently, was it ? I didn't have a bet on the match odds so I was able to watch objectively, so an unbiased opinion. Good night. |
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mansini you are deep in debt because of your reckless gambling, i suggest you stop and get help
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hhahababba
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wait..waqit...sorry..getting help right now
help? is that you? need youu hoh |
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are you the person who said spartak moscow were "rank"? i found that quite amusing actually.
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it was when they were playing chelsea
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avacado.. I have never, in my life, EVER, bet more than 10 quid (about 0.000001 %) of my bank on soccer. I'm not even from england. And I assume 'moscow' are a football team? So no, i am not that guy, ha ha
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how big's your bank?
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by his calculations about a million
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how big's your bank McChicken?
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LMansini Date Joined: 15 Oct 05
Add contact | Send message When: 16 Nov 10 02:17 I have been there as little as 5 hours ago. I have a 2k bank and I was going to lose $70 on a soccer game that was 1-0. No big deal right... But I was pissed off, I couldnt handle losing that money, and I was a little drunk. So I put $1000 on at $1.20 tat no more goals would be scored, just to not take a loss, even that that was idiotic. In the end, a goal was scored, but thank god the ref blew the whistle 1 second before. If you're prone to fibbing mate, you will need a better memory. Or perhaps you have an honest explanation of the post above taken from this very thread? Not trying to make anyone look silly, so explain away. |
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LMansini Date Joined: 15 Oct 05
Add contact | Send message When: 30 Nov 10 22:33 Lori 30 Nov 10 21:12 Plenty of losers make useful insightful posts. Yep..Instead of looking to follow winners, look to oppose losers. For example a few weeks ago both MONEYTREE and SamualMorse tipped Man City to win a football game. So, what did I do? I have never watched an entire 90 minute football game in my life.. I couldn't name more than 2 players in the EPL.. I know nothing.... BUT i KNOW that moneytree and samualmorse are both complete spanners. So i layed man city with my entire bank. And I made over 2k pounds on this match. More than the average 'expert' makes on football betting in a years. Oh dear. Nothing personal. |
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sorry...if you are saying i copied this post...you might find I coped it from myself? I posted the exact same thing a few weeks ago?? because the man city thing happened about 2 weeks
are you accusing me of plagerising myself? lol |
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wait trev..gonna find the bet in my history, it was a while ago, you little bi tch
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stop being such a f@ggot mansini
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k, it was man city vs man united a while ago
money tree and samuel morse both tipped a man united win so i laid man city for full bank ended up making slightly more than 2k..... Now the real challenge - IF both money tree AND samual morse EVER tip the same result, ever again, i promise to lay it with my entire bank. Deal? Is that a deal avocado? |
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sorry i meant, both tipped a man city win
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avocado....are you either money tree or sam morse? if not..why do you defend them so much?
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avocado.. I promise..if you can get both money tree + sam morse to agree on a result, I will lay it for my entire bank. Deal ?
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how big's your bank?
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see my other thread mate..needless to say we are talking well above 1000 pounds
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kenilworth : My first word on the opening post. I would imagine that discipline HELPS,
but how one measures it, I don't know, Discipline doesn't just help, the game is impossible to win without it. Reading this thread, I never realised that so many punters don't seem to understand that fact, but I guess many long term survivors exercise discipline without labeling as that. It can be measured in different ways, for example a disciplined pre-off trader will always be out before the off, where as a poorly disciplined trader will find himself letting the odd event go in-play in his struggle to get green. Position takers know how to stake related to chance, some stick to that plan, many don't. |
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1000 pounds? sh1t, you're a high roller
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