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is discipline an edge?
is discipline an edge?
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look.. a little while ago on the cricket forum people were conversing hindu which i know nothing about, and it annoyed me, so i understand you
the only thing is i didnt start it.. just replied... so dont blame me !! But yes we agree it is fricking annoying, so no more foreign languages for me |
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FAFH Spanish people hate to admit that they understand Potuguese just because we are the only country, then so called "province" that they couldnt invade or conquer
 we are the "Gauls" of Iberia and somehow managed to have or language spoken all over the World |
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Frog my system to win a million pounds a week would be to be place a 100 million pound bet at odds of 1.01 every week. Liquidity allowing.
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Yep Lusi.
You had your colonial empire once upon a time too. Left behind your legacy, good and bad, just like all the other colonial superpowers. |
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have u seen the movie 'Apocolypto'
pretty cool ending involving spanish ivaders |
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but you guys speak of Spain like a solid nation but if you go deeper you'll find out thats it is far..far from the truth
and we (the Portuguese) are the envy of many Spanish provinces, we have have what they always wanted to achieve...but that was accomplished 8 centuries ago |
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what do you think of the word 'saudades?' its quite lovely
for non portuguese speaking ppl that means - an intense missing - for someone who may never come back - and someone who may never have existed eg....portguese explorers |
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the only successful portugese gambler i know was a guy called Pinot Grigio but his penchant for drinking white wine soon impaired his judgement
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is discipline an edge?
i guess theres no yes or no answer to that reading through this thread, each answer given will be different relative to the experiences/skills of those replying. so the answer from me is no. i never had a disciplined bone in my body until i found a way to win. if a little voice had told me after a big loss or even after i buggered up a trade due to something stupid like pressing the decimal odds key at the wrong time, that i would 100% win it back applying my edge over the next month, i wouldve been satisfied with the loss. i know that to be true as ive been there and done it. ill discipline is a symptom of somebody who doesnt have a clue what they are doing, back when i fked up a trade in the past i would simply have tried to force a profit out of my next few bets even if a winning opportunity wasnt there.. if i couldve looked at the next market and KNOWN i had no edge 100%, i simply wouldnt bother. |
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How do you like the Coastguard slogan then ( during the last world war particularly).
"We have to go out, but we don't have to come back in." Avocado. Nothing wrong with a glass( or even a bottle) or two of good old pinot grig. Luuvveerrlly nectar. |
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in fact we are the oldest country in Europe
and we have the oldest alliance in the world with... the English  ok im going to leave it here, we are way out of the original context of the thread [;)] |
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never heard that before. its pretty good though
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Yes we have all shown extreme lack of discipline, in getting off subject so much.
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its my threat
lets take it to strange and unsual places |
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if a little voice had told me after a big loss ...
Clacher that sounds like a symptom of schizophrenia. If you're hearing voices in your head after a big loss I suggest you seek medical help. Let this be a lesson to all of us about the perils of gambling, it can literally drive you insane like this poor chap. |
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FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 18 Nov 10 03:36 Joined: Date Joined: 12 Mar 07 | Topic/replies: 1,413 | Blogger: FINE AS FROG HAIR's blog Yes we have all shown extreme lack of discipline, in getting off subject so much. subtle but nice FAFH ==================================================== there is a guy/girl here that keeps saying the same thing Avocado When: 18 Nov 10 03:38 Joined: Date Joined: 06 May 10 | Topic/replies: 4,018 | Blogger: Avocado's blog The contents of this post have been hidden for this blocked user: Avocado. You can manage your blocked users list here . |
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Luis will not be able to see me calling him gay here as he has me blocked.
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Of course discipline gives you an edge, no doubt about.
For the past year i have had a plan of what i need to do to build my bank, it works until i lose a large bet and i lose my discipline and bet regardless of my plan to try and get that loss back. I know i shouldn't do it, but i do. i am trying my best to build again and i am determined to be disciplined. if anyone could give me the answer on how to be disciplined then i would be very grateful.  |
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I think you have to learn that bets (large or small) can lose
as well as win, and also have a maximum and minimum stake per bet, nothing too rigid, based on price (most important) You may have a problem with temperament (are you young ?)and that should calm down with experience IMO. GL. |
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PERTHSAINTS
I am a recently qualified personal and business coach, who intends aiding punters with the mental approach to betting. In order to be succesful you need to have the technical skill to select winners, you seem to have acquired this and in order for you to move onto the next level, it is your mental approach to punting that you need to look at. Successful business and sports people who are serious about their career employ a coach to help them attain their goals. To gain greater discipline you first need to know what is your motivation for gambling. Awareness is also key to be a success in any walk of life, by that I mean to be aware what is going on inside of you when you lose a large bet. Do you focus on the setback and dismiss the successful bets before that? Is there negative self talk going on? Do you demand perfection? |
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and green holey pants.
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"If only I was a bit more disciplined I could achieve this or that..."
If you are having to apply the word discipline to cover something else then it is perhaps those other issues that should be explored. Having to force yourself to bet sensibly would tend to indicate an inner turmoil that ought to be explored imho. good luck all |
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Forcing yourself to bet does not sound like a good thing at all.
You think there are people like that. If so, God help them. |
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Just to clarify there Froggy, that was someone forcing themselves to bet sensibly.
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Yes, never imply that DaveEdwards has any hint of weakness at all.
'imho' - that's a laugh |
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delighted to have given you a laugh swift-tuttle
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Elflem : In order to be succesful you need to have the technical skill to select winners
Much of what you say is true Elflem, but I'm afraid the above is not. Also, some long term punters have only survived as long as they have because they do actually chase their losses, and usually justify that by calling it their staking plan. If they're unlucky enough to be caught out by a 100 year wave (or rather less) then they're toast. I can't help thinking that no form of discipline coaching is going to help most gamblers, or to put it another way turn losing gamblers into winning ones. It's either something they'll learn along the way through practice and experience, or something they'll never grasp at all, it's not something that can be taught IMO. As we've seen on this thread, many punters don't even beleive in the concept of discipline, which is fair enough as they are naturally disciplined. |
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Trev, is it an issue of a disciplined approach as such or perhaps people behaving in their usual patterns?
& to swift-tuttle, I my original post was meant generally, not saying anything about myself. Take it as you please. |
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It takes some form of discipline to lose consistently too.
Not sure what the pschobabble is for that unfortunate characteristic. Death wish ? |
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Trevh
When i say technical skill to select winners, I am referring mainly to be able to spot value in a market. I have worked in a bookies for over ten years and the amount of punters who don't know the basics of betting is frightening. It is my belief that if someone knows the basics of betting allied to having a mental edge that their punting will be on a sound footing.There are many out there with the basic know how of how to successfully bet but don't have the mental attitude to back it up. It is this mental edge that separates the elite from the also rans, go through any sport or business and the elite will have that mental edge. As regards being able to coach dicipline, this has been done in many sports, to an astonishing effect in some cases. A good example of this would be Rodger Federer, in his teen years he would constantly be arguing with himself on court, however after extensive coaching on this facet of his game he discovered he was a lot more effective with the serene approach we see in his game now. For the serious punter it is imperative that they know what state of mind they need to be in to perform effectively. |
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No problem with all the elflem.
But the point you're making is that discipline will improve you if you have the basic skills. Otherwise it's pretty useless in isolation. All good stuff, but I believe in self help in all these types of things. No need for life coaches etc, if you're intelligent enough to understand these types of things. |
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"No problem with all that --"
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I've inadvertantly discovered the title to my (ghost) autobiography
green pants. green book. |
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Are they the ones with the bum hole slightly off centre ?
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Avocado 18 Nov 10 03:38
if a little voice had told me after a big loss ... Clacher that sounds like a symptom of schizophrenia. If you're hearing voices in your head after a big loss I suggest you seek medical help. Let this be a lesson to all of us about the perils of gambling, it can literally drive you insane like this poor chap. if a little voice had told me after a big loss ... HTH |
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subtitle: the holey grail
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this thread still going
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...but not about the opening subject it seems.
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lets talk about you kenny
whats new? how old are you now? |
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and what is your lifetime profit? feel free to make it up
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