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Also Zipper....it's not about how many outcomes there are, it's about value.
If you were offered 11/10 each heads or tails, I'm sure you'd play nothing but coin tossing for the rest of your punting life. Hope you get the drift. |
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First dont stop winning you say 26 correct tell me how much did you win 26 correct for me would be 26k on lays alone by the way my record is 32 lays all lost
Take Me Out I type like a weirdo cause I Am a weirdo |
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Dont stop winning ... It aint 11/10 on the toss of a coin its evens here one for you us two could toss a coin 8 hours a day for the next 50 years and there would be nownt in it in fact we could be dead level ......what a waste now drift off
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zip it
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Take Me Out .. Ransom Note my nap won about 8/1 zip got 10/1 early doors on betfair ..how does that compare with tossing a coin at evens .
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This nonsense about VALUE is just that Nonsense .. the ONLY value is the winner .. eg one you got 8/1 a horse who started 6/4 fav .. so you got the value . but but the nag ran last .. take your ticket up to your bookie and he will say .... sorry son that was a loser .get the drift
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Value is in your mind .. us bookies pay out on results .
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Why bother with prices then?
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zipper, you've been administered too much medication please return to the nurse
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Catfloppo punters look at prices they have no ideas of there own .. say the daily paper says micky mouse in the 2.30 at Dream Land is 4/5 fav .... well its a cert .
Well zip has a different view i price up each race on merit dont take any notice about the press gang . And i have been at this game the last 50 years Heres my CV. my dad was a gambler my mum married a gambler .. so i did not have much choice zips follows family tradition I have no regets |
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buzzer.. you are a ..... and not worth an answer dont come on my thread again .... thank you
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I didn't realise this was YOUR thread and you're as thick as pigshi t if you think prices don't matter! A bookie who doesn't understand overround is unheard of. You spout some rubbish on here and expect people to listen to it!
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this could have been a good thread but seen that ego zipper joined, another tosspot
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Don't get bogged down with the word 'value', the point is that you need to be able to spot horses which are overpriced over a period of time, not on an individual race. If you are able to do this you will have an edge. Your profit/loss column will tell you whether you have this edge. Commission makes it alot harder than people realize to make this edge pay.
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Buzzer a bookie who dont understand over rounds Well Son if your a gambling bookie like my dad and myself over rounds mean nowt .. The Late Great John Banks would not know what you are talking about over rounds are for public owned companies .. 3 spring to mind ...Laddies , Billy Hills , And Joe Coral have say a winning run with any of em ... they close your account .. over round or not so stick your over rounds up your backside .. hope thats clear.
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dlarssonf what that means ive no idea and Buzzer . now this nonsense about over rounds .. take this onboard there are layers on here (Betfair ) who will stand a horse for say 10k or 20k to lose and nowt else in the book .. tell them about over rounds .
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You still need value bets to make a consistent long term profit.
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gambler versus gambler
gambler 1 bets horse at 3-1 (horse wins) gambler 2 bets same horse at 2-1 gambler 1 bets horse at 2-1 (horse loses) gambler 2 bets same horse at 13-8 gambler 1 bets horse at 5-4 (horse loses) gambler 2 bets same horse at 8-11 all to level stakes |
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catfloppo Joined: 16 Nov 06
Replies: 487 19 Aug 10 18:47 You still need value bets to make a consistent long term profit. The voice of reason. |
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ffs i dont even like horse racing
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Take Me Out you dont even like horse racing why start a conversation you dont like and its patently clear you know nothing about beats me
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i didnt start this thread about horse racing
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Well son this is a horse racing forum . take your nonsense some were else thats my advice and its free .
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since when has this been the horse racing forum old man?
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With a largish bank making money on football is fairly easy providing you know which prices are right and which are wrong.If you get that correct the result can be an irrelevance.
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zipper 19 Aug 10 15:56
This nonsense about VALUE is just that Nonsense .. the ONLY value is the winner .. eg one you got 8/1 a horse who started 6/4 fav .. so you got the value . but but the nag ran last .. take your ticket up to your bookie and he will say .... sorry son that was a loser .get the drift Finally......a bit mad, but a voice of reason... Value is subjective. |
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No Name Specified 20 Aug 10 14:35
zipper 19 Aug 10 15:56 This nonsense about VALUE is just that Nonsense .. the ONLY value is the winner .. eg one you got 8/1 a horse who started 6/4 fav .. so you got the value . but but the nag ran last .. take your ticket up to your bookie and he will say .... sorry son that was a loser .get the drift Finally......a bit mad, but a voice of reason... Value is subjective. If I back the same 100 horses with a BFSP of 5.0 as you and zipper, using identical stakes. I back them at 6.0 you guys who don't care about value back them at 5.0, who will be the biggest winner? Value is subjective alright. |
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What does Jimmy? I meant to say pre kick off regarding prices.
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Muqbil Joined: 18 May 03
Replies: 1961 20 Aug 10 14:53 If I back the same 100 horses with a BFSP of 5.0 as you and zipper, using identical stakes. I back them at 6.0 you guys who don't care about value back them at 5.0, who will be the biggest winner? Value is subjective alright. if they lose? Price is irrelvant. i don't think anyone's talking about who is a bigger winner, are we? its about making a profit. |
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No Name Specified 20 Aug 10 15:05
if they lose? Price is irrelvant. i don't think anyone's talking about who is a bigger winner, are we? its about making a profit. roffle. |
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Muqbil 20 Aug 10 15:21
roffle a well thought out retort and reasoned argument..... one that has made me realise the error of my thinking. |
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ok you guys please please one at a time now settle down
Zips take on value is this take Wootton Bassett yesterday every bookie in the land made this a 5/2 or 11/4 shot at 1.20 pm the horse was very backed at 5/4 it won like a cert you value men would not be on cause theres no value zip was on cause my take on value the only value is the winner |
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Mugbil If i back the same horses as zipper.
Let me stop you there son IF IF is all encompassing. Take for instance .... If my granny had testicles she would have been my Grandad .. need i go on |
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Think this mug Zipper has got the wrong part of the forum this is General Chat nog bugger of to Horse Racing part, oh thats right they hate you on there and its not your thread you moron its Take Me Outs
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Backing Zippers lays = Poorhouse! (and this is zippers thread cos he said so)!
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NM1 It looks like you've been on here a full 6 days.So you may have a lot to learn about us old timers. I joined 2002.
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This MMI most be some gob he joined 6 days ago and he has had 766 replies..
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Does'nt mean he is wrong though, does it?
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Shiraz .. grow up hes wet behind the ears
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