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They do come in as i've laid one before now .... 16p / £160.00 pay out .
i would say they arrive around every 1,200 on average ,although a surprising amount (probably most)of these bets are bought AFTER the event . |
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expalin coachbuster about bought after the event?
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I backed one and even tipped it up on the forum
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Kof Rome you,ve layed 0-0
goal scored 1-0 0-0 now 1000 back 1000 to access your money in that market Think thats what he means. |
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indeed Flatliner , thats correct
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remembered i also bought one aswell, during the 3-3 Celtic v Falkirk game which ended 3-3 (small stakes)
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I've put money up at 1000 before that didn't get matched on two events on the same day, and both of them happened!
The fact that my money didn't get matched shows that the chance of it happening was well below 1000/1, I estimate about 10000/1 for both. Lyon v Plebennec offered to lay the draw in Half Time market at a score of 2-0 for 1000 in the 45th minute. Result: 2-2 Hamilton v Rangers offered to lay Hamilton in Half time market at a score of 1-2 for 1000 in the 45th minute. Result: 3-2 Coach, I would say they come in less than once every 2000 on average (in football). It's not only hoovering, but also lots of bets getting matched at 1000 simply because that is the limit (like Blackpool winning the Premier League). I guess you could get the actual answer if you wanted to trawl through the data. Largest odds I lost at laying was 240. Largest odds I won at backing was 200. |
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thanks I understand now
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Investor ,maybe on average yes...as you point out there are many bets which should be 10,000 -1 .
On the original question of asking if there was a chance of any of them coming in , i still say they can be good value if you know what youre looking for ...most of the ones i lay (and get matched easily ) tend to have around the 1,200 - 1,400 chance . The ones i back tend to have a 600/1 chance . People don't tend to get involved otherwise..... Whoever backs Blackpool to win the epl outright needs certifying ![]() |
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Hull is correct.. There has never been a 1000/1 winner on bf
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Well that's no strictly true. It wasn't a straight up effort as it involved a mistake but it was 1000.0 all the same.
Liverpool vs Stoke in the season before last. Liverpool "scored" early doors with the camera and probably the crowd only watching the players celebrating. But it disallowed for offside. In the meantime somebody who casually hoovers such money available on the corect score market every day of the week laid everything outstanding at 0-0 (and presumably the other scores that involved Liverpool not scoring) at 1000.0 and was in the smelly stuff for the rest of the match, which did indeed finish 0-0 and somebody (not me in case you're wondering) had a fair result even if they went all green there and then. |
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2,000 i meant Investor ,not 10,000 ...
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There's several different " types " of 1000 .....
Sports events when the event has clearly finished but 1000 gets matched due to either someone unaware or mostly to allow people to free up funds as the settlement could take longer than necessary. Events that clearly look done and dusted ( especially horse racing )but have the risk element , AP has had a couple this year amongst others. The best of the lot are the ones that can't possibly win with the prime example being fallen horses , several quid matched on every faller in British racing and nearly all down to fast pics , true definition of free money and easily the most preferable method. |
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albundyshoesalesman Joined: 11 May 10
Replies: 27 29 May 10 15:05 Hull is correct.. There has never been a 1000/1 winner on bf 999/1 then if you want to be pedantic [:p] |
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Shane Lowry - Irish open last year
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that africa cup of nations 4-4 must have come close at least.
pretty sure I've had some 1000 winners in the past, but only for pennies as part of a wider book. never the dream scenario of "ooh, that looks a bit long - I'll have a fiver on that... OH MY FCKING GOD!" |
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Isn't there a story somewhere on Betfair (don't ask me where, I am a C I G, that is computer illiterate geek) about a 6 horse jumping race a few years back where the favourite fell at the start, a layer offered 1000 on it, 265 pounds was bet at 1000, the other horses all fell down, the favourite was remounted and won costing the layer 265,000 pounds?
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a few years back in rain effected a 40 over sunday cricket game involving notts cricinfo reported the wrong result and i happened to back the winning side at 1000 for £5 (it was only to green off didn't know result was wrong either) and it won best win ever had never had a 1000 to one winner since or seen one for that matter
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been at least 50 on horse racing alone that i know of - some to relatively small stakes but one or two massive ones
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The Lanterne Rouge Joined: 22 Aug 04
Replies: 12 30 May 10 07:08 Isn't there a story somewhere on Betfair (don't ask me where, I am a C I G, that is computer illiterate geek) about a 6 horse jumping race a few years back where the favourite fell at the start, a layer offered 1000 on it, 265 pounds was bet at 1000, the other horses all fell down, the favourite was remounted and won costing the layer 265,000 pounds? The race in question was at Southwell and the horse was called Family something or other ridden by A P Mc Coy, 13/8 fav from memory |
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My one was 5-10 quid, I forget which, (laid off around evens) and Five Leaves Lost had the same bet on Sylvia to be evicted from Big Brother when she wasn't up for eviction.
It wasn't just a wild stab in the dark though. Not only was she an evil cow but there was an incredibly good chance that Alex (Who was up for eviction) would be booted out and cancel the whole process. It's always easy in hindsight, but if Alex to be just booted out for rulebreaking was 10s and Sylvia was 7/2 or something for the eviction if re-started, well, you do the math.... I always wish I'd had more on it but ah well at least I got it |
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http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=ZnE-q5rOEKQ
That's the Mccoy one. You have to delete the space I've put before the word "watch" in the link |
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Crying laughing as usual watching that race. It's more like the closing game in the original "Rollerball" than a horse race
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As a general proposition most of the odds that are offered up at 1,000.0 should have odds much higher than 1,000.0.
So lay em. That is wot I do selectively and it seems to work. |
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Indeed betfair really ought to allow bets in increments bigger than 1,000.0 if they are to fairly represent the probabilities for their customers.
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that would be brilliant.
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"There's several different " types " of 1000 .....
Sports events when the event has clearly finished but 1000 gets matched due to either someone unaware or mostly to allow people to free up funds as the settlement could take longer than necessary. Events that clearly look done and dusted ( especially horse racing )but have the risk element , AP has had a couple this year amongst others. The best of the lot are the ones that can't possibly win with the prime example being fallen horses , several quid matched on every faller in British racing and nearly all down to fast pics , true definition of free money and easily the most preferable method." ------------------------------------------- I was involed with a race over the jumps once and my horse fell quite early. Quids in I thought as I had layed before the off, but late on all the remaining horses also fell...... and mine won! Jockey decided to get back on the horse and continue 'just in case' and it paid off. Likely the hoovers got busted on that. |
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It would be fairer but not so good for me as people seem to be willing to back 10,000.0 shots at 1,000.0 and much of what I do is exploit peoples propensity to back at stupid odds.
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I was involed with a race over the jumps once and my horse fell quite early. Quids in I thought as I had layed before the off, but late on all the remaining horses also fell...... and mine won! Jockey decided to get back on the horse and continue 'just in case' and it paid off. Likely the hoovers got busted on that.
Ah yes. And that race where most of the runners thought they had finished and galloped off the track but there was another circuit to do and some complete outside won! |
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http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=ZnE-q5rOEKQ
That's the Mccoy one. You have to delete the space I've put before the word "watch" in the link ------------------------------------------- Just finished reading whole thread. That must have been the race I was involved in! My typical luck! Also laid a one eye horse once...........and it won! I know one eye shouldn't effect performance but come on! Needless to say, I no longer lay horse :) |
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Thanks for the link, I had not seen that one before. Totally amazing and worth a look for anybody that has not seen it before either. ![]() |
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Lori provided the link, I was just quoting their post. BTW, how do you quote properly on here?
I have bookmarket that video to use as a reminder that ANYTHING can happen..........and if you REALLY don't want it to, it probably will! lol |
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OK Alex,we get the picture
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interesting thread
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2 in 1 day on horses within a couple of hours the other day
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There was a recent one on the horses that was matched at 1000 before the race (SP 800 ish)
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at that race Lori, never seen that before. Even the commentator is on the verge of cracking up |
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Thanks supernap. Cheers, TLR.
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