1000/1 winners

never

They do come in as i've laid one before now  .... 16p / £160.00 pay out .

i would say they arrive around every 1,200 on average ,although a surprising amount (probably most)of these bets are bought AFTER the event .

expalin coachbuster about bought after the event?

I backed one and even tipped it up on the forum

Kof Rome you,ve layed 0-0
goal scored 1-0
0-0 now 1000
back 1000 to access your money in that market

Think thats what he means.

indeed Flatliner , thats correct

remembered i also bought one aswell,  during the 3-3 Celtic v Falkirk game which ended 3-3 (small stakes)

I've put money up at 1000 before that didn't get matched on two events on the same day, and both of them happened!

The fact that my money didn't get matched shows that the chance of it happening was well below 1000/1, I estimate about 10000/1 for both.

Lyon v Plebennec offered to lay the draw in Half Time market at a score of 2-0 for 1000 in the 45th minute. Result: 2-2

Hamilton v Rangers offered to lay Hamilton in Half time market at a score of 1-2 for 1000 in the 45th minute. Result: 3-2



Coach, I would say they come in less than once every 2000 on average (in football). It's not only hoovering, but also lots of bets getting matched at 1000 simply because that is the limit (like Blackpool winning the Premier League). I guess you could get the actual answer if you wanted to trawl through the data.

Largest odds I lost at laying was 240.
Largest odds I won at backing was 200.

thanks I understand now

Investor ,maybe on average  yes...as you point out there are many bets which should be 10,000 -1 .

On the  original question of asking if there was a chance of any of them coming in , i still say they can be good value if you know what youre looking for ...most of the ones i lay (and get matched easily ) tend to have around the 1,200 - 1,400 chance .
The ones i back tend to have a 600/1 chance .

People don't tend to get involved otherwise.....

Whoever backs Blackpool to win the epl outright needs certifying 

Hull is correct..  There has never been a 1000/1 winner on bf

Well that's no strictly true.  It wasn't a straight up effort as it involved a mistake but it was 1000.0 all the same.

Liverpool vs Stoke in the season before last. 

Liverpool "scored" early doors with the camera and probably the crowd only watching the players celebrating.  But it disallowed for offside.

In the meantime somebody who casually hoovers such money available on the corect score market every day of the week laid everything outstanding at 0-0 (and presumably the other scores that involved Liverpool not scoring) at 1000.0 and was in the smelly stuff for the rest of the match, which did indeed finish 0-0 and somebody (not me in case you're wondering) had a fair result even if they went all green there and then.

2,000  i meant Investor ,not 10,000  ... 

There's several different " types " of 1000 .....

Sports events when the event has clearly finished but 1000 gets matched due to either someone unaware or mostly to allow people to free up funds as the settlement could take longer than necessary.

Events that clearly look done and dusted ( especially horse racing )but have the risk element , AP has had a couple this year amongst others.

The best of the lot are the ones that can't possibly win with the prime example being fallen horses , several quid matched on every faller in British racing and nearly all down to fast pics , true definition of free money and easily the most preferable method.

albundyshoesalesman Joined: 11 May 10
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Hull is correct..  There has never been a 1000/1 winner on bf


999/1 then if you want to be pedantic [:p]

Shane Lowry - Irish open last year

that africa cup of nations 4-4 must have come close at least.

pretty sure I've had some 1000 winners in the past, but only for pennies as part of a wider book. never the dream scenario of "ooh, that looks a bit long - I'll have a fiver on that... OH MY FCKING GOD!"

Isn't there a story somewhere on Betfair (don't ask me where, I am a C I G, that is computer illiterate geek) about a 6 horse jumping race a few years back where the favourite fell at the start, a layer offered 1000 on it, 265 pounds was bet at 1000, the other horses all fell down, the favourite was remounted and won costing the layer 265,000 pounds?

a few years back in rain effected a 40 over sunday cricket game involving notts cricinfo reported the wrong result and i happened to back the winning side at 1000 for £5 (it was only to green off didn't know result was wrong either) and it won best win ever had never had a 1000 to one winner since or seen one for that matter

been at least 50 on horse racing alone that i know of - some to relatively small stakes but one or two massive ones

The Lanterne Rouge Joined: 22 Aug 04
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Isn't there a story somewhere on Betfair (don't ask me where, I am a C I G, that is computer illiterate geek) about a 6 horse jumping race a few years back where the favourite fell at the start, a layer offered 1000 on it, 265 pounds was bet at 1000, the other horses all fell down, the favourite was remounted and won costing the layer 265,000 pounds?

The race in question was at Southwell and the horse was called Family something or other ridden by A P Mc Coy, 13/8 fav from memory

My one was 5-10 quid, I forget which, (laid off around evens) and Five Leaves Lost had the same bet on Sylvia to be evicted from Big Brother when she wasn't up for eviction.

It wasn't just a wild stab in the dark though. Not only was she an evil cow but there was an incredibly good chance that Alex (Who was up for eviction) would be booted out and cancel the whole process.

It's always easy in hindsight, but if Alex to be just booted out for rulebreaking was 10s and Sylvia was 7/2 or something for the eviction if re-started, well, you do the math.... I always wish I'd had more on it but ah well at least I got it

http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=ZnE-q5rOEKQ

That's the Mccoy one. You have to delete the space I've put before the word "watch" in the link

Crying laughing as usual watching that race. It's more like the closing game in the original "Rollerball" than a horse race

As a general proposition most of the odds that are offered up at 1,000.0 should have odds much higher than 1,000.0.

So lay em.  That is wot I do selectively and it seems to work.

Indeed betfair really ought to allow bets in increments bigger than 1,000.0 if they are to fairly represent the probabilities for their customers.

that would be brilliant.

"There's several different " types " of 1000 .....

Sports events when the event has clearly finished but 1000 gets matched due to either someone unaware or mostly to allow people to free up funds as the settlement could take longer than necessary.

Events that clearly look done and dusted ( especially horse racing )but have the risk element , AP has had a couple this year amongst others.

The best of the lot are the ones that can't possibly win with the prime example being fallen horses , several quid matched on every faller in British racing and nearly all down to fast pics , true definition of free money and easily the most preferable method."

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I was involed with a race over the jumps once and my horse fell quite early. Quids in I thought as I had layed before the off, but late on all the remaining horses also fell...... and mine won! Jockey decided to get back on the horse and continue 'just in case' and it paid off. Likely the hoovers got busted on that.

It would be fairer but not so good for me as people seem to be willing to back 10,000.0 shots at 1,000.0 and much of what I do is exploit peoples propensity to back at stupid odds.

I was involed with a race over the jumps once and my horse fell quite early. Quids in I thought as I had layed before the off, but late on all the remaining horses also fell...... and mine won! Jockey decided to get back on the horse and continue 'just in case' and it paid off. Likely the hoovers got busted on that.


Ah yes.  And that race where most of the runners thought they had finished and galloped off the track but there was another circuit to do and some complete outside won!

http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=ZnE-q5rOEKQ

That's the Mccoy one. You have to delete the space I've put before the word "watch" in the link


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Just finished reading whole thread. That must have been the race I was involved in! My typical luck! Also laid a one eye horse once...........and it won! I know one eye shouldn't effect performance but come on!

Needless to say, I no longer lay horse :)

jackhulk   


Thanks for the link, I had not seen that one before.  Totally amazing and worth a look for anybody that has not seen it before either.

Lori provided the link, I was just quoting their post. BTW, how do you quote properly on here?

I have bookmarket that video to use as a reminder that ANYTHING can happen..........and if you REALLY don't want it to, it probably will! lol

OK Alex,we get the picture

interesting thread

2 in 1 day on horses within a couple of hours the other day

There was a recent one on the horses that was matched at 1000 before the race (SP 800 ish)

at that race Lori, never seen that before.  Even the commentator is on the verge of cracking up

Thanks supernap. Cheers, TLR.

that video is brilliant.

clearly whoever got on at 1000, it wasn't the commentator.

Just imagine being the layer watching that McCoy race as the slow realisation started to sink in that you were losing 265,000 to win 265 quid.

There was a football game this year, spanish league game I believe live on TV an the same thing happened, disallowed goal 86 laid at 999/1, no more goals. I have always thought it was a waste of time as there are a few ready to put up these odds and many will get put at back of the queue and never get matched, seems a lot of hard work for little gain and as proven can bite you on the arsse.

I remenber that Rugbyleaguer, i think it was a Real Madrid game, £40 traded at 1000. lol

kicking king a few years ago, stable reported horse injured and out for season 1,000/1 was matched for around £200 i think in ante post market, horse duly turned up and WON

I thought Kicking King was a horse that fell and then got up and won?

I think binocular was matched at huge odds in the ante post Market for the champion hurdle this year, very similar to kicking king! Also new approach for the derby a couple o years ago.

im sure someone has the details of the game where the wrong score was shown on the telly...?

I believe that game was South Korea u17s vs possibly Mexico u17s, something like that.

Score was 1-0 and "Mexico" scored a goal that was disallowed, except nobody saw that it had been disallowed because Eurosport were showing a replay of the "goal" so the score was displayed as 2-0

South Korea or whoever it was scored shortly after to equalise and the score was then displayed as 1-1

Not sure what price was matched.

i think that was it lori

im guessing 1000 was matched as the 1000 layer would have been in there automatically.

There was a Brazil v Ireland game a few months ago (can't remember if it was Rep or Northern) where £500 was matched at 900-1000, because the teams were the wrong way round either on Betfair or tv, so people thought the scores were the opposite.

Here you go, this is directly from Betfair historical data, and dwarfs the amounts others mention. £1,000 matched at 1000 as someone thought the score was 2-0 rather than 0-2, as it was displayed the wrong way around on tv.

I said £500 because the amount matched is always doubled by BF, so someone or some group of people collectively lost £500,000 on this. The "100" you see in between teh odds and the money matched refers to the number of bets placed.


101178019    02/03/2010 22:01    Internationals/Fixtures 02 March / Brazil v Rep of Ireland    02/03/2010 20:05    Correct Score    02/03/2010 20:09    9    0 - 2    1000    100    1027.12    02/03/2010 21:58    02/03/2010 21:15    0    IP



Republic of Ireland 0     
Brazil 2    

    * Andrews (og) 45,
    * Robinho 76

Perhaps I'm wrong though, and this was settled the other way around?!?

It probably was, seeing as no-one else ever seems to mention this one [:)]

Sept 11th 2010 burnley 4 - Preston 3. Burnley was 3-1 at 84 mins and it was 1000-1 for a burnley win. not sure if anything was matched.

i meant...
Sept 11th 2010 Result burnley 4 - Preston 3.
Preston was 3-1 up at 84 mins and it was 1000-1 for a burnley win. not sure if anything was matched.

Chelsea 0 Sunderland 0-3 was a very definite 1000/1 since this 2010 thread started

international cricket match involving ireland.  Niall o Brian was batting and given out.  Someone put up 1000/1  Kevin o brian for 2 quid to be top bat having mixed them up. 

I swooped, tryed to get it!  managed to get 1.81  laid off 3 balls later at evens after kevin smacked a few 4's on the way to top scoring.  900 all green in moments.

I once asked for 999/1 and was matched on a female Big Brother contestant to be top female (at the time there were only two females left in the house).
She left the house via helicopter and my bet was matched.
Imagine the layers horror when she returned to the house the following day!!
I had fun laying her at 5s and upwards to  green up the book.
She came 2nd.

Liverpool must have been huge odds when 3 nil down at half time in a famous european game(cant recall opposition)
Liverpool went on to win in extra time!

cl final 2005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_UEFA_Champions_League_Final

was working for 365 around that time.  Some mr big phoned up and had 100k at 1.01 ac milan.  Was talk of the whole company for yrs after. 

i also saw 100k at 1/6 aus to win the ashes after their won the first lords test in 05-ish before eng made the comeback

Biggest bet i ever took over the phone was 10k on a fav at 6/4 which won.  The bloke had about 60k in his account there and it would show up...refer all bets, raise hand to alert attention. That was the biggest balance of someone i ever saw there. I enjoyed working there.

My biggest in 10 years was hit the automated to green out when a horse I laid (probably a risk of around £80) hit 40's.

I threw £2 into the pool and my screen whacked saying £600or so if it won, the matches from 400 down to 200/1 my lay probably to pocket £5.

Then, the prices started spiking going crazy and I realized the horse was making a charge.

I put a lay up at 3.00 with around 100 as quick as I could.......and got around £10 matched before the horse landed 2nd landing me around £15 profit

Feck me, I'd forgotten how funny the horse on top of the fence was in the Family Business race! 

I was working for a.n.other betting exchange at the time and vividly recall watching the race in the office.

I remember somebody having tipped that horse up, actually, and I think it was ppking or Janov posted that "xyz, your horse appears to be stuck on the fence." 

Yes I remember the Chelsea 0-3 Sunderland game as I had laid 0-2 and imagine my surprise and relief when it was actually another Sunderland goal that rescued me.

Ive only ever layed them ... very few at that

I've laid a few over the years....thankfully very few

backed Tayarat at 530/1 for 30p. Went up to 770/1.

SO TO SUM UP DOES THAT MEAN THAT NO HORSE ON HERE THATS BEEN OFFERED AT 1000-1 HAS NEVER WON

I DONT MEAN IN RUNNING

I MEAN A HORSE THAT HAS BEEN OFFERED AT 1000-1 BEFORE THE RACE STARTS

not sure about horses do wah ,certainly many 1000/1 sp bets come in

football correct scores especially

birmingham  0 barnsley 5
man utd 1 man city 6
chelsea 0 sunderland 3
barcelona 0 hercules 2
man utd 8 arsenal 2  (would certainly have qualified if it existed )
arsenal 7 newcastle 3  (ditto)
west brom 5 man utd 5  (ditto again)
cardiff 3 liverpool 6

they're some of the most recent from epl and la liga ,and that's not an exhaustive list - just from my memory

there are many more around the 600/1 mark which may well have peaked at 1000

whether they would have made you a profit long term, who knows ?

YES COACHBUSTER BUT BIRMINGHAM 0 BARNSLY 5 AND THE REST WOULDNT HAVE BEEN OFFERED AT 1000-1 BEFORE THE GAME STARTED ,IM NOT ASKING ABOUT IN RUNNING IM ASKING ABOUT PRE MATCH ,AND PRE RACE OFF

YOU COULD HAVE ONLY BET ON OVER EIGHT AND A HALF GOALS  IN THE CARDIFF 3-LIVERPOOL 6 GAME AND I DONT THINK ANYONE WOULD HAVE OFFERED 1000-1 IN REALITY ON HERE ,SAME FOR THE OTHER GAMES

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF ANY 1000-1 HORSE HAS WON NOT IN RUNNING BUT BEFORE THE RACE STARTED

THERES LOADS OF 1000-1 HORSES LAID BEFORE THE OFF BUT HAS ANY EVER WON

Last October I misdirected my robot to offer 1000 on favoured way Australian Quinellas.

And got hit by what appears to have been a non-Australian thrillseeker.

Curious that no one piped up to rub my face in it.

Anyway I still offer plenty of 1000s, and get matched regularly.

They should be up well within the hour, and you should be able to see mature primary markets, as well as a sub 110% market, with 5 hours before jump.

So feel free to knock yourself out.

Mar 28, 2014 -- 8:29AM, Coachbuster wrote:

not sure about horses do wah ,certainly many 1000/1 sp bets come in football correct scores especially birmingham  0 barnsley 5man utd 1 man city 6 chelsea 0 sunderland 3barcelona 0 hercules 2 man utd 8 arsenal 2  (would certainly have qualified if it existed )arsenal 7 newcastle 3  (ditto)west brom 5 man utd 5  (ditto again) cardiff 3 liverpool 6 they're some of the most recent from epl and la liga ,and that's not an exhaustive list - just from my memory there are many more around the 600/1 mark which may well have peaked at 1000whether they would have made you a profit long term, who knows ?

Needle. Haystack.

I don't know how you 1000 layers sleep at night!

do Wah ,they were all pre kick off #  the birmingham match shattered the 1000/1 twice  ,on 0-4 and 0-5 - i don't think that had been done in a long time

if i did a list of in running matches with 1000/1 endings i'd be writing a list as long as the M4


all in lower case - see what i've done there do wah 

sheppey

there are up to 100 opportunities ,or 5,000 over a year on correct score ,a great many scores will not get taken - you would need  5 every year to break even  ,  fewer than that number arrive every 2  years

so in essence you are doubling your money if you don't mind the stress 

but like buses ....


3 could arrive in quick succession

Mao Chin Tire a 7 furlong flat horse winning a listed hurdle first time up. I think that went off at 1000.

Mao Chin Tire a 7 furlong flat horse winning a listed hurdle first time up. I think that went off at 1000.

Coachbuster - yes "stress" is definitely the operative word!

Even if you win all the bets I couldn't stand the stress of something going wrong!

You probably win far more than me so I'm probably the loser here!

Remember Ransom Note Ascot 2010 ?

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2010/jun/17/ascot-2010-day-three-live

I backed 2 quid of the 15 matched at 1000 :)

sheppey ,in the past i did modestly well  on these type of bets - but very few get taken now - and the few that do are almost approaching  value - so definitely no longer worth the stress 

an example then would be, a 6-2 scoreline at 1000 gets taken along with the 7-2 - now it's just the 6-2 -no interest in the 7-2

in the good old days ,both would get taken

either fewer players with money to throw around now, or folk have wised up considerably

those scores don't relate to a particular match do wah btw - theyre simply an example 

Thanks Coachbuster.

Shortly after I joined Betfair I layed Tiger Woods who hadn't won for about 3 years. I also layed Rosberg who'd never won a grand prix.

When both of these won it really pissed me off and made me wanna stop being a layer.