How did punters win before the internet?

24/7 :)

it can only be inside info can it not buzzer?

It only feels like 27!

Yesterday, two bets:

One Swedish football. Able to research form, team news, match reports.

One horse back: Used track stats and analysis to choose best track to take on. Narrowed down to best races based on tracks, chose a 9/4 winner (French Art).

Today, three horses selected using (a) track stats to find best races to take on then (b) a RACK of info from speed to past races/competitors.

There is no way I could have made any of those bets pre-internet.

By the way, I am sure that everyone agrees; that 33% stat is a smoke screen once you start looking at tracks/goings/conditions/types of races.

Three "net researched" bets today. Three more being looked (football and evening horses)

310 Folk: back Beat The Bell: Strike rate under conditions and distance around 45% on fave's so looked at three races that hit that mark. Selected Beat The Bell. Able to discount 6th place finish. Sophie Doyle gives 5lbs. Race comparison indicated strong fields in previous as opposed to 2F Cornus who has won two races (looks good in the betting shop) but against weaker fields. Beat The Bell consistant performer over Good To Firm while Cornus doesn't like the going as much.

330 Redcar back Logos Astra: Track carries strong stats with 7F to 1 Mile for faves. Smaller fields, an advantage. Eliminating the 7F Maiden, went for this race. Speed ratings pretty equal but Logos Astra intervals strong early and progressive compared to Don't Call Me. Don't Call Me - one race/one win but that race has only produced one winner since. The rest of field tend to under race on going.

600 Brighton LAY Print: Statistically, when the going is Good to Firm or Firm at Brighton, the form book works for the bookies. And in the 6:00, Print, who won last time out, is likely to be one of their trump cards. Winning last time out puts it at 3/1 on this afternoons card. But value exists further down the board. Kipchak raced through the winter and finished 4th seven days ago in a similarly rated field. My Learned Friend tackles the going well, has course and distance experience and won at Brighton last July. Like Kipchak, Billberry raced through the winter and has shown a consistent finishing style and will come into the mix during the finishing furlongs. The surprise could come from Avertis who, like My Learned Friend, enjoys the going and could benefit from the step back in distance since the early pace is always there but the finish has been the problem. Definitely a race to look for EW value. Rate this one My Learned Friend/Kipchak/Billberry making Print the lay for the day.


All from research via the net.

Absolutely, this used to be an easy game.

When did the internet start?

hornets1988 29 Apr 15:40
When did the internet start?

First time I saw it was in 1992. Everything was through the "alt" posting boards (in Canada, atleast).

alt.music
and
alt.sex

is all I remember :)

alt.fan.kate-moss
and alt.alien.visitors

are the two that spring to mind here :^0

I.quit.my.job 29 Apr 17:44
Bilberry is very well-handicapped in BTN 6.00

EVEN money for a place.........u like your EVENS shots, fill your boots

rating on the race had My Learned Friend as the value EW to support the lay.

Print UP :)

Billbury 5th / 2 lengths

Print....10th/10 :) :) :)

I remember 20 years ago the golfer mark james being offered at 16/1 with one bookmaker and 125/1 with another for the order of merit when he had a very realistic chance of being the number one golfer in that particular season .

Sports betting didn't seem very sophisticatedly organied two decades ago, it was largelly a small unimportant off-shoot from bookmaking, which many in the laying business saw as pretty insignificant and not worthy of much attention.

I.quit.my.job 30 Apr 14:23
nice one. Reading RP quotes looks like Bilberry made a mess of start and started to run on towards the end. One to maybe recoup losses next time he runs.

Leave the loss behind, iqmj. Placing a post-t and saying "next time I will recoup" is wrong since the conditions next time may be different.

Im having success laying my top-rated which sounds bizarre but they are top-rated because they have ALREADY shown their best form and are often great value to lay.

I use a similar flag for football. Top rated teams are laid if below a certain range AND competing with a team where their performance has progressed a certain percent.

What do you think of this staking plan;

To each their own. But people always talk about plans where they trade out green. They never talk about trading out red.

also do you think posting here affects the markets one iota?

It used to more. Teams used to work ramping the horse market during the day around 4 years ago. Very organized and became very obvious. people on all forums do follow certain people. Others search the forums for bets when they are looking for a bet.

But ramping less and less obvious among the forumites since more often than not, someone will read through the bull and post accordingly.

For amusement, though, Money Tree on the football forum; I cannot believe that any individual has more ability to post the "opposite result" ever on outcomes. It is almost mystical :)