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By:
blue owl
When: 05 Jan 08 18:23
I remember your findings........still use it myself;)
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 18:39
aye

lol

all those days paid off in the end then :)
By:
blue owl
When: 05 Jan 08 18:42
As far as I'm concerned it was the best ever thread on betfair,and I've seen a few.
I see your wages have increased since then.
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 18:46
aye built up over the peace


boogie dancer
By:
blue owl
When: 05 Jan 08 18:49
Think the favs nailed on here
Good luck.
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 18:52
11/11
By:
535d
When: 05 Jan 08 19:50
louphole
By:
bobbydazler1981
When: 05 Jan 08 20:09
FS- Whats your p&l today?? Looks like some good lays again mate!!
By:
535d
When: 05 Jan 08 20:18
park valley prince
By:
new born
When: 05 Jan 08 20:25
535d....Keep it up, soon be as goog as FS.
By:
535d
When: 05 Jan 08 20:32
Aye, would be good.....

He's playing with real dough....a world of difference

I bought a book called "false favourites" and never read form before, now I' m faking it till i make it, calling lays from races after I read this fred. TBH it would be best not to lay some race codes, they're hard to call just by looking at the form book 5mins b4 the off, especially kemps tonight.

Even so, calling em before the off keeps my learning strategy honest.

Well done to foot soldier, he's the real hero....just reading some of his older freds to learn something new.
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 20:55
Ahh fell asleep there


that's 11/11 So 1650 - comm
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 20:57
+ 9500 for 5 days so far.


will be away a couple of days which will bring down my daily average, but will pick it up again when I get back.
By:
535d
When: 05 Jan 08 21:00
Enjoy ursellll...
By:
535d
When: 05 Jan 08 21:01
P.S. What did hapen with the place lays (i'm on p21, still reading)?
By:
bobbydazler1981
When: 05 Jan 08 21:01
Have a great couple of days off FS, you deserve it!!

Speak to you laters.
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 21:03
WE found out the place price is a good guide to the chances of a horse winning compared to it's win price.
By:
535d
When: 05 Jan 08 21:05
Is there a formula/calculation for this?
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 21:07
kind of we worked on one but not in too much depth.
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 21:09
basically if a horse was priced 3 in the win you would want that horse to be higher than 1.5 in the place. The higher it was over 1.5 the better chance it had of getting beat.

we traded them as well and looked at what price movement we would want to green up and set that up as the race started.

for example

lay 3 back back @ 4.5 - 5.5
By:
535d
When: 05 Jan 08 21:10
So what's the system part of these large lays? look at the form......and.....

Are you being selective with race codes and meetings for this?
By:
remitrom
When: 05 Jan 08 21:10
+ 9500 for five days = 1900 per day. Do this for a year, half a million nearly, fantastic but it takes a lot of guts and know how what to lay I take my hat off to you FS...and what a day today. Have emailed you mate when you have time to read it. Thanks for the advice today and would have been grateful even if some had been losers.
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 21:10
we called them take ons

if a horse was 3 ( 2/1) to win the race but 2 ( evs) to finish in the first 3

that was a take on
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 21:12
cheers remi
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 21:12
no offence 535 but that's my edge.
By:
bobbydazler1981
When: 05 Jan 08 21:13
FS- Do you truly make an average of over 1500 a day?! That is some edge you have there?!
By:
remitrom
When: 05 Jan 08 21:13
welcome mate have a good break...
By:
535d
When: 05 Jan 08 21:15
I c.....if the market is near perfect (as it is with large liquidity) then it's a tell when the place odds are in that zone......

Very nice, that should come in useful with my favourites system, thank you very much......pleasure to post here.
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 21:15
not always you obviousley have patchy days and runs as you will soon see, but when you say this to people they say it can't be done.

well i've just shown you it's not that difficult if you have everything in place.
By:
535d
When: 05 Jan 08 21:17
Hey no offence bud, pleasure to tolerate my picks on your thread. grateful to ya for it.
By:
bobbydazler1981
When: 05 Jan 08 21:17
Cheers for the advice FS, its always good to see an example of how it can be done, instead of reading alot of the negativism on many other threads!
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 21:17
it's the approach you take to get the 1500 a day that's the key
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 21:18
considering the liabilities have hardly been over 5k i'm in the driving seat for the month.


with 9500 now what would it matter if i lost a 150 lay @ 32's now ;)
By:
bobbydazler1981
When: 05 Jan 08 21:19
True, it wouldnt even affect half of your profit!
By:
bobbydazler1981
When: 05 Jan 08 21:20
I have to admit, if i made over 5k profit, id withdraw it and pay off some of the mortgage though!!
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 21:20
when you get ahead you build a sponge of comfort between you and your loses and since your ahead you try and increase that sponges size to keep you safe.

And that's what I've done over the years.
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 21:21
yes bobby i know exactly what you mean


however now you are ahead think what the p/l would be on the 31st of jan @ 1500 a day.
By:
535d
When: 05 Jan 08 21:21
I think the words you're looking for here is compounding the bank and then splitting the bank into smaller banks to compound again.
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 05 Jan 08 21:22
yes 535 with the smaller banks being 5k at the start of each month.
By:
bobbydazler1981
When: 05 Jan 08 21:22
46500 would be a lovely amount to take home at the end of the month!!
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