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By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 00:31
later bud

see you on here nearer the time..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 08:44
alrighteeee

so 13/13 yesterday

+ 1885
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 08:46
+ 12,950 in total so far then..


dosen't look like there is much today, just kempton :(
By:
footyfan
When: 13 Jan 08 09:05
Fantastic foot soldiers not sure why you would lay a team an away team i mean, at 20 but hey it's working
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:07
3 lays for today


0-0 in the Ajax v AZ match

0-0 in the Levante v Madrid match

Giants in the NFL
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:08
Cheers footy
By:
Opportunity Knocks
When: 13 Jan 08 09:11
footsoldiers, this is a long thread so only read bits of it, curious to know if you ever back or is just laying you do, and do you ever trade out if your lay looks like it might be winning?
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:13
just lays mate

and no trading

i red booked on a photo to my cost, the horse never won :(
By:
footyfan
When: 13 Jan 08 09:16
your welcome just what these 0-0 lays though they have a habit of exploding in yur face when you least expect.
By:
Opportunity Knocks
When: 13 Jan 08 09:18
Have you always followed this strategy, I noted earlier in the thread you said you were winning around 50 per day, and then just built it up gradually?

And any reason you don't trade out, even to cut potential losses? Seems a big exposure you have (even if it is only a percentage of your bank)
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:26
well


this isn't my strategy really, cause as you know i bet quite heavy on the tennis and football at times, which are my main 2 markets.

On this i've rarely had an exposure of over 5k, so i'm just trying to show it can be done and you can infact make on average 1500 per day over a month..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:28
and the reason i don't trade out is it leaves it open for lurkers to come on the thread and say i was aftertiming.....

like some nugget does on the football forum every time i have a winning bet..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:29
I also want to prove you can make good money on here by not betting the value...
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:32
u get guys talking about value all the time....it bores me to death, it's like a disorder with them a cleaning disorder they can't bet unless they think they have this thing called value


now if i turn over 30k a month a 1000 a day by not betting the value


what are they going to say ???
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:35
u ask 100 guys from the soccer forum what the value is on the pompy match today, they'll all think they have the value you'll get 30 different answers..


they fight and scrimmage over a price on that match instead of looking and finding easier ways to make money without finding value..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:38
I could potentially increase my bank in a month by 6 times it's original ammount, without betting value.

it's gonna turn this theory about value on it's head and make people think differently and hopefully make them think about thier bets more..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:41
Value was something invented by pro punters years ago who could only back horses and wanted a good price..

now u can lay anything you want value means jack shi t

and i'm gonna prove it if a i can...
By:
m535i
When: 13 Jan 08 09:42
Well said fs....

Where the feck are the value footie odds? The odds are way too tight in footie matches imo. The only perceived value (i'm no expert)is finding 1 or two ticks on the fav. False value at such low odds on shots surely....
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:49
peope think they won a bet because they found the value as well

they are deluding themselves..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:50
and that's it really


don't want to say any more on the matter, don't want this thread turning into a talk about value i've been in enough of those in my time on here

it's like what comes first the chicken or the egg..
By:
Opportunity Knocks
When: 13 Jan 08 09:53
yeah, if you lay a 20-1 shot at 40-1, the selection still only has a maximum 5% chance of winning. And how the prices are arrived at is subjective in any case.

Value tends to be applied to the pre event books that are created, but as you can trade out and the prices fluctuate in running, agree that the obsession with value is largely irrelevant on exchanges, unless you take a silly short price in running, or lay something at too big a price unrelated to its theoretical chance.
By:
new born
When: 13 Jan 08 09:53
Surely FS. you have to try and take avalue bet, so during any losses you dont lose so much.
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:57
honestly i never look for value, never have..


I look at sports i know and i don't care the price, as long as i think that the team, the horse, the player will lose i'll lay it or them...

regardless

as you have seen in this thread..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 09:58
if you look at something and say that shud be 35 but it's 40

that's never stopped me from laying it..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 10:00
Surely FS. you have to try and take avalue bet, so during any losses you dont lose so much.


hopefully with my edge I have I don't get many then value, dosen't matter..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 10:02
but now we're going down that chicken and the egg route again..


let's get away from that and see what my p/l is over 6 months


that will be the proof of the pudding..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 10:03
I know what it will be cause i would just need to post my last 8 months p/l

but i want to show people live it can be done..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 10:08
bit thin on the ground today though..
By:
new born
When: 13 Jan 08 10:10
Sure you will do it FS. Ionly lay in small amounts, so have to be carefull with every penny.
By:
jimny
When: 13 Jan 08 10:12
Footsoldiers 13 Jan 11:50
and that's it really


don't want to say any more on the matter, don't want this thread turning into a talk about value i've been in enough of those in my time on here

it's like what comes first the chicken or the egg..


Maybe that's because you've started most of them :D

Good afternoon Footsoldiers....
By:
Ahoy 1982
When: 13 Jan 08 10:12
no value in a losing bet was always my opinion.Agree with you 100% footsoldiers
By:
deeko
When: 13 Jan 08 10:13
brilliant thread lads,watching with interest.laying 0-0 sunderland game ,your thoughts?
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 10:14
jim jimy jim jimny jim jim jarroo


alright mucker..


what's the word on the street on the WTA ??

NEED THE INSIDE TRACK MATE..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 10:15
good luck deeko

gave it a miss that one cause I had no idea..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 10:15
and have u sobered up from last night jimny

what a state u were in on the tennis forum..
By:
skooba
When: 13 Jan 08 10:16
afternnoon character - you had any kip yet :-0
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 10:18
LOL

skooba


4 hrs... drunk 4 bottles of wheat beer 2 bottles of Bud and a litre of Bailys..

she wasn't happy..
By:
skooba
When: 13 Jan 08 10:18
pmsl....it must be love..love love!!
By:
skooba
When: 13 Jan 08 10:19
did you get the xmas card alright?
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 13 Jan 08 10:19
she's found a german deli in london that delivers. all the goodies came fri, made a dent in them last night at about 3 in the morning.
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