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By:
Mendimtari
When: 08 Feb 08 21:31
Er... KC, Copperbottomed was a non-runner wasn't it? So there's no reason to stick a smiley after it as though it rendered a profit. Does your tally of +3.5 pts allow for this?

I couldn't find Spartan Duke when I looked, but at least it ran. Nevertheless, using my own variation on the theme I made over 6 pts today.
By:
Muqbil
When: 08 Feb 08 21:40
KC, what prices are you using to calculate the returns?
By:
Mendimtari
When: 08 Feb 08 22:52
Why, Muqbil? Do you get a very different result using the prices you found?
By:
jimny
When: 08 Feb 08 23:22
Copperbottomed was a NR, and Spartan Duke finished 3rd...

Looking at the Betfair SP for the winners at 4.50 and 3.80 I make it a profit of 1.30pts allowing for 5% commission...
By:
Knight Commander
When: 09 Feb 08 08:13
...Copperbottomed was a non-runner...

Indeed it was. I didn't watch the race just looked later to see what won.

Yesterday's amended total now +2.5 points.
By:
Knight Commander
When: 09 Feb 08 08:15
KC, what prices are you using to calculate the returns?

No prices taken as just papertrading.
By:
Knight Commander
When: 09 Feb 08 08:18
Today's nb selections are:

1.05 Zebra Crossing
1.35 Here's Johnny
2.10 Master Mind
2.20 Quws Law
2.25 Kruguyrova
3.20 Blue Bajan
3.45 Fromsong
3.45 Benllech
3.45 Mogok Ruby
3.55 Ofarel D'airy
4.10 Shipmaster
9.20 Basalt
By:
Muqbil
When: 09 Feb 08 08:22
Mendimtari 08 Feb 23:52

Why, Muqbil? Do you get a very different result using the prices you found?


Trialing a laying system using sp is a complete waste of time, it is totally meaningless. If it were possible to lay at sp, no system(s) would be needed. Calculating returns based on bf sp would at least give a clearer indication
By:
sugarray
When: 09 Feb 08 08:58
KC...where do u find the nb selections
By:
Ivor
When: 09 Feb 08 08:59
Calculating with SP+20% and net of comm. covers all with ample room to spare.
Since 'keep bet' I've never had to lay horse, any race, any day at that level of premium.
By:
Ivor
When: 09 Feb 08 09:00
sugar:
http://thebettingsite.racingpost.co.uk/
select a race - then click the trilby hat called 'TIPS'
By:
sugarray
When: 09 Feb 08 09:17
thx ivor
By:
sugarray
When: 09 Feb 08 09:42
football lay for today

w.b.a 2.08
By:
Bradders
When: 09 Feb 08 10:01
West Brom are too short today imo. A very good side on their day, but prone to dropping silly points. Bristol City look decent today, Sheff Weds were shockingly poor at ours a couple of weeks ago.
By:
blue owl
When: 09 Feb 08 10:04
A bit harsh bradders,but very true I'm afraid.
By:
Hotpot Kid
When: 09 Feb 08 10:21
How come your lot only won in the last minute then Bradders? ;)
By:
Hotpot Kid
When: 09 Feb 08 10:27
Ayr 1.15 Stormy Lord is a lay

Too old (12) and too exposed, horses ages 10 or more 1-142 in handicap hurdles in Feb coming from chasing races
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 09 Feb 08 11:00
Is that on HEAVY going HPK?
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 09 Feb 08 11:01
Last year's race was on SOFT and 11 yo won and 10 yo 2nd.........

BUT this is HEAVY going.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 09 Feb 08 11:05
STORMY LORD is top rated on AM site...has highest TS ...as well as highest at the course...also highest RPR at course amonst those in the race.......It is a chase type horse...and the going is HEAVY....the distance is a "sprint" for an old timer like SL...if stays up right could well win today.
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 09 Feb 08 11:43
is**around today need to ask him something

cheers.
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 09 Feb 08 11:46
if you see him lads can you ask him something for me


he said when cheltnham gets here he said work out the average of the last 3 runs on each horse

so say horse finished 3 3 3 average would be 9/3 which is 3

what happens if it's 3 0 3 what do you class the 0 as since it hasn't placed ?????

or wud you just take an average of the last 3 times it's placed ??????

cheers.
By:
Hotpot Kid
When: 09 Feb 08 11:47
That's all races on all going DFC.

Think the "coming from chasing races" bit is the important stat.
By:
£200 A DAY FULL TIME WINNER!!!
When: 09 Feb 08 11:48
1.05 Newb SCRIPTWRITER 9.8
1.15 Ayr GUNADOIR 10.5
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 09 Feb 08 11:51
good luck 200
By:
£200 A DAY FULL TIME WINNER!!!
When: 09 Feb 08 11:54
FS, it doesnt have to be placed to get that figure, eg, if it 2nd, 6th and 3rd, its would read, 263, when does it actually show a zero? is it if it didnt come in the first 10?? because pulled up and fell are highlighted, maybe you would put 10 if thats what zero represents? ie 10th or worse..
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 09 Feb 08 11:56
yeah

just on here it shows a zero
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 09 Feb 08 11:57
look on here for example first race at Ayr

what would the average be for wise choice ???
By:
£200 A DAY FULL TIME WINNER!!!
When: 09 Feb 08 11:58
for example, CHOUXdamour finished 16th out of 18 runners last time, it says 0, so maybe it would count as 10, or actually count the 16??
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 09 Feb 08 11:59
too much work finding out how many runners was in it's race last time out imo...

**will know what to do
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 09 Feb 08 12:01
So the stat you posted must be just last year's 11 yo winner then at AYR!
By:
£200 A DAY FULL TIME WINNER!!!
When: 09 Feb 08 12:02
WISE CHOICE came 11th and 16th last 2 races, so count them as 11 and 16, or both 10?? so it would be 3,10,10 = 7.6 or 3,11,16= 10

i dont know for sure obviosly how he does it,
By:
£200 A DAY FULL TIME WINNER!!!
When: 09 Feb 08 12:04
it shows you when you place your mouse over the horse on the RP cards,
By:
Footsoldiers
When: 09 Feb 08 12:05
cheers

hopefully he'll be around today to clear it up


where's buzzer gone ??
By:
Hotpot Kid
When: 09 Feb 08 12:08
DFCIRONMAN 09 Feb 13:01

So the stat you posted must be just last year's 11 yo winner then at AYR!


Did the winner of last years race come from a chase race the time before?
By:
sugarray
When: 09 Feb 08 12:21
good call hotpot....where do u get your stats from?
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 09 Feb 08 12:23
Nothing wrong with that HPK...wd re SL lay.....a 9 yo won...so one of older horses won race...SL did struggle today.

Chase types do win at this distance on this going...not so sure your stat is accurate....remember that the weather has changed greatly over last few years....not often you get HEAVY going in FEBRUARY in hurdles races...SOFT yes etc
By:
jimny
When: 09 Feb 08 12:27
200 A DAY FULL TIME WINNER!!! 09 Feb 12:48
1.05 Newb SCRIPTWRITER 9.8
1.15 Ayr GUNADOIR 10.5



Full house again today 200 :)

Well done also Hotpotkid, great stats m8...Intrigued as to where you get them from, but understand if you don't want to say :)
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 09 Feb 08 12:27
Sorry HPK ...it was another race at AYR ...not same race...BIRDWATCH won in 2006 ...BUT going was only SOFT....as an 8 yo.

I suspect i am "right" re your stat though in that there will be very very few HEAVY going races in amongst the "all goings" description.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 09 Feb 08 12:28
For FEBRUARY that is.
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