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By:
jeski
When: 05 Mar 08 00:48
do you use any bots or do you play manually?
By:
superfly
When: 05 Mar 08 00:52
manually, if your playing a tight full ring game, you wont be playing many hands so you wont have trouble multi tabling, its only when you are playing a loose game you will struggle
By:
jeski
When: 05 Mar 08 00:56
ok ta. I've looked at the '2plus2poker' site, looks really good. Going to purchase the 'small stakes hold'em' book' (winning big with expert play), is this the one you reccommend...can't seem to find any 'limit' stakes books.
By:
superfly
When: 05 Mar 08 00:56
most of the time you will be folding
By:
superfly
When: 05 Mar 08 00:56
yeah, its the small stakes bible
By:
jeski
When: 05 Mar 08 00:58
excellent...thanks again for the info.
By:
superfly
When: 05 Mar 08 00:59
no problem
By:
Knight Rider
When: 05 Mar 08 02:16
odwyer1980 04 Mar 12:21

I am on the verge of increasing my bank to 2,000. Am I teetering on pro shores?


--------------------------------

PMSL :^0
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 05 Mar 08 02:41
Nothing like confidence in one's ability.
A bank of 2000 quid no less.
Now that's mind-blowing confidence for you.
By:
delz
When: 05 Mar 08 02:42
Oh dear. Not again.

Not managed to make it to 2000 in several months and still thinking about going full-time on here.

Get a life.
By:
cpfc4me
When: 05 Mar 08 05:12
I am on the verge of increasing my bank to 2,000. Am I teetering on pro shores?

What was your starting bank - 1,950?

The answer is no. I would suggest 10k minimum, and some better ideas than chasing 1.0x shots.
By:
cpfc4me
When: 05 Mar 08 05:22
odwyer1980 18 Jun 14:26

I look at who's playing who and the reality of them beating their opponents before I look at the odds.

I'd never pick a team just because they have "good odds" or they are "good value". Last night the Mets were good value at 2/1, but there was no way Wang and the Yankees was going to lose that last night, even though they were 4/9 to win.


Forget it - with logic like that, I'm surprised you're still here!
By:
odwyer1980
When: 05 Mar 08 09:22
I've upload 2,000 from today, and hope to make as much as I can a day from conservative betting.

I've stated my method in the initial post, so that's the stance I'll be taking. There will be no taking risks.

I'll withdraw anything (15 or over) I make past that starting bank.

I'll re-visit this in 3/4 months.
By:
Double_Underscore
When: 05 Mar 08 09:23
There will be no taking risks.

You are, without a shadow of a doubt, completely kidding yourself.

Having said that, good luck.
By:
Mr Profit
When: 05 Mar 08 09:27
**g dreamers.
By:
Murphy1
When: 05 Mar 08 09:34
D_U

I'll re-phrase for you then, I will eliminate the risks that you and others take.

I know I will be more successful % wise then yourself and most others - who take risks that I will not take.

The stress factor I will face will be little - compared to yourself, who will be anxious beyond words at stages when your bets look like they could go pear-shaped.
By:
odwyer1980
When: 05 Mar 08 09:39
Btw, "Murphy" is my fake handle for my other account. Damn, I've exposed myself. :D

Anyway, I'll post it again under my main handle.

D_U

I'll re-phrase for you then, I will eliminate the risks that you and others take.

I know I will be more successful % wise then yourself and most others - who take risks that I will not take.

The stress factor I will face will be little - compared to yourself, who will be anxious beyond words at stages when your bets look like they could go pear-shaped.
By:
Double_Underscore
When: 05 Mar 08 09:58
odwyer1980 05 Mar 10:39
Btw, "Murphy" is my fake handle for my other account. Damn, I've exposed myself. :D

Anyway, I'll post it again under my main handle.

D_U

I'll re-phrase for you then, I will eliminate the risks that you and others take.

No, you won't. In fact you will, as someone pointed out on another thread, be backing at 1.01 when the smart money is already there, in volume, backing 1.02 and laying 1.01. You will be doing this on things that have true odds of 1.01x 90% of the time, where x is a number between 1 and 9.

I know I will be more successful % wise then yourself and most others - who take risks that I will not take.

Your strike rate will of course be higher. "More successful % wise" I very much doubt. That's a wide statement which could be defined in a lot of ways. The Expected value of the majority of your bets will actually be negative (whether you choose to accept that fact or not, i assure you it is correct) whereas the expected value of my bets is predominantly positive.

The stress factor I will face will be little - compared to yourself, who will be anxious beyond words at stages when your bets look like they could go pear-shaped.

You know nothing about me, and very little about making money long term through betting. I actually very very rarely get excited about a bet, and in when I do its nothing to do with the money involved. Mostly I don't watch them take place, simply check the results at some point when they are over. Its most likely that you will get very limited satisfaction from the small pennies you will pick up, and then come close to a heart attack when the inevitable bulldozer eventually catches up with you, e.g. Henin at wimbledon, etc etc.
By:
curlywurly
When: 05 Mar 08 09:59
LOL

I'd like to see your 'stress factor' when your 1.0x shot gets turned over and the bills need paying and the kids want to go on holiday.
You might as well dig yourself a hole in the back garden now
By:
jeepster
When: 05 Mar 08 10:00
I seem to remember you posting that you were on the draw at 1.03/1.04 in the Aus v India test match at Sydney at the beginning of the year-Aus won in it in case you've forgotten.Presumably you saw that as risk/stress free?
By:
Troy McClure
When: 05 Mar 08 12:52
odwyer1980 05 Mar 12:43


Making a living from Tennis trading - lol.

Only dreamers think they can do this.




I think he's done his brains already
By:
Kaiseress
When: 05 Mar 08 14:10


odwyer1980 25 Jul 19:44
I would not rule out Tennis

Sorry mate, I've ruled it out for life.

:-)


Reappeared on tennis a few weeks ago......... misguided arrogance in tact........ before leaving again.

Very peculiar character, obviously somewhat educated, but devoid of a working brain.

Buffoon is apt.
By:
callataxi
When: 05 Mar 08 14:10
odwyer1980 05 Mar 10:22


I've upload 2,000 from today, and hope to make as much as I can a day from conservative betting.

I've stated my method in the initial post, so that's the stance I'll be taking. There will be no taking risks.

I'll withdraw anything (15 or over) I make past that starting bank.

I'll re-visit this in 3/4 months

u really are some clueless clown arent u. there seem to be a few of u that appear from time to time and bet on every sport/post on every forum and seem to barely know the rules/or the players in whatever sport it happens to be. cant be bothered to bring up some of yr old posts as im sure people have read it all b4. one question u can help me with though, could u give me an example of a conservatine bet? no risks being taken?
By:
Kaiseress
When: 05 Mar 08 14:14
Justine Henin-Hardenne to beat Marion Bartoli.

Wimbledon 2007.

Risk free imo.
By:
layem&payem
When: 05 Mar 08 14:15
callataxi:..................this fred seems to be another like whereisharry..................people think it is so easy. I am living proof of just how hard it is.
Will someone please pay my electricity bill.................
By:
jimny
When: 05 Mar 08 14:46
This is a fishing thread, odwyer starts them all the time...


He has to in order to get somebody to converse with him ;)
By:
layem&payem
When: 05 Mar 08 14:48
odwyer: I hope you wasn ton the strees free 1.01 shot August gale.......................
By:
odwyer1980
When: 05 Mar 08 14:49
Troy McClure 05 Mar 13:52


odwyer1980 05 Mar 12:43


Making a living from Tennis trading - lol.

Only dreamers think they can do this.




I think he's done his brains already


Absolutely not. I'm sitting back and watching. Gathering money from events that are more or less over.

A far cry from those on the Tennis forum right now sweating over Gasquet to get a set against a poor Andreev. Look who's also there, sweating like a clown - Kaiseress.

Callataxi, learn how to spell conservative, then I will give you an example.
By:
odwyer1980
When: 05 Mar 08 14:51
Horses, are a no go area regardless. Can't profit from that "sport" without gambling.
By:
Robin Ewe
When: 05 Mar 08 14:55
odwyer is one of those people who loves attention whether its good or bad. He probably walks down the street with "i am a complete**" written on his forehead just so people notice him.
By:
Kaiseress
When: 05 Mar 08 14:56
You really are on another planet..........

Some on here are more blatant in their idiocy, but I genuinely think that you surpass everyone in that regard.
By:
callataxi
When: 05 Mar 08 14:56
Callataxi, learn how to spell conservative, then I will give you an example.


conservative. there u go odwyer im really sry for typing wrong letter, but have typed it for u now, awaiting example of a conservative bet now ty.
By:
Kaiseress
When: 05 Mar 08 14:57
I know.....

I'm sure he'd make a facsinating physchological case study........

Once you could get past his external - I'm a boring f*ckwit - appearence.
By:
Kaiseress
When: 05 Mar 08 14:58
fascinating even
By:
Kaiseress
When: 05 Mar 08 14:59
And Psychological too :^0
By:
YOULITTLEBOTTY
When: 05 Mar 08 14:59
Odwyer
Unless you are finding and exploiting good value odds, then it doesn't matter one iota when you are betting on an event ( before or during, at the beginning or at the end etc) or what the actual sport is.
It also doesn't matter whether the odds are short or long.
You give no indication that you know how to find good value, and unless you can do that, you never will become the successful professional gambler that you seem so earnestly to desire to be.
By:
odwyer1980
When: 05 Mar 08 15:04
YOULITTLEBOOTY

Only time will tell.

In 3/4 months, I'll get a better idea if how it will go etc.
By:
Beat The OverRound
When: 05 Mar 08 15:24
Can't profit from that "sport" without gambling.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Breath

Hahahahahahahahahaha

Breath

Hahahahahahahahaha

O.K. I've composed myself to post this...

Horse Racing / Ling 5th Mar : 7f Hcap 06-Mar-08 03:10 06-Mar-08 03:15 200
Horse Racing / Catt 5th Mar : 2m Nov Hrd 06-Mar-08 02:50 06-Mar-08 03:02 200
Horse Racing / Ling 5th Mar : 7f Mdn Stks 06-Mar-08 02:40 06-Mar-08 02:47 200
Horse Racing / Catt 5th Mar : 2m Mdn Chs 06-Mar-08 02:20 06-Mar-08 02:32 200
Horse Racing / Font 5th Mar : 2m4f Hcap Chs 06-Mar-08 02:00 06-Mar-08 02:07 200
Horse Racing / Ling 5th Mar : 1m4f Claim Stks 06-Mar-08 01:40 06-Mar-08 01:44 200
Horse Racing / Sthl 4th Mar : 1m Hcap 05-Mar-08 03:40 05-Mar-08 03:44 200
Horse Racing / Extr 4th Mar : 2m3f Nov Chs 05-Mar-08 03:00 05-Mar-08 03:10 200
Horse Racing / Extr 4th Mar : 3m6f Hcap Chs 05-Mar-08 02:30 05-Mar-08 02:46 200
Horse Racing / Sthl 4th Mar : 1m4f Hcap 05-Mar-08 02:40 05-Mar-08 02:45 200
Horse Racing / Sthl 4th Mar : 1m3f Sell Stks 05-Mar-08 02:10 05-Mar-08 02:19 200
Horse Racing / Extr 4th Mar : 2m3f Nov Hrd 05-Mar-08 02:00 05-Mar-08 02:13 200
Horse Racing / Newc 4th Mar : 2m Nov Hrd 05-Mar-08 01:50 05-Mar-08 02:01 -200
Horse Racing / Wolv 3rd Mar : 1m Hcap 04-Mar-08 04:20 04-Mar-08 04:24 100
Horse Racing / Strat 3rd Mar : 2m3f Hcap Hrd 04-Mar-08 03:00 04-Mar-08 03:10 100
Horse Racing / Ling 3rd Mar : 7f Hcap 04-Mar-08 02:40 04-Mar-08 02:43 100
Horse Racing / Strat 3rd Mar : 2m1f Nov Chs 04-Mar-08 02:30 04-Mar-08 02:39 100
Horse Racing / Ling 3rd Mar : 1m2f Mdn Stks 04-Mar-08 01:40 04-Mar-08 01:44 100
Horse Racing / Wolv 3rd Mar : 1m6f Hcap 04-Mar-08 01:20 04-Mar-08 01:25 100
Horse Racing / Clon 2nd Mar : 2m INHF 03-Mar-08 04:15 03-Mar-08 04:24 -200
Horse Racing / Bang 2nd Mar : 2m1f NHF 03-Mar-08 04:00 03-Mar-08 04:12 -300
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Mar : 2m INHF 03-Mar-08 03:55 03-Mar-08 04:05 100
Horse Racing / Bang 2nd Mar : 2m4f Hcap Chs 03-Mar-08 03:30 03-Mar-08 03:48 -300
Horse Racing / MrktR 2nd Mar : 2m6f Hcap Chs 03-Mar-08 03:40 03-Mar-08 03:47 100
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Mar : 2m1f Nov Chs 03-Mar-08 03:25 03-Mar-08 03:39 100
Horse Racing / Hunt 2nd Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 03-Mar-08 03:20 03-Mar-08 03:25 100
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Mar : 2m5f Hcap Chs 03-Mar-08 02:55 03-Mar-08 03:17 100
Horse Racing / Clon 2nd Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 03-Mar-08 02:45 03-Mar-08 02:55 100
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd 03-Mar-08 02:25 03-Mar-08 02:41 -400
Horse Racing / MrktR 2nd Mar : 2m2f Nov Chs 03-Mar-08 02:10 03-Mar-08 02:18 100
Horse Racing / Bang 2nd Mar : 2m1f Nov Hrd 03-Mar-08 02:00 03-Mar-08 02:09 100
Horse Racing / Leop 2nd Mar : 2m Hrd 03-Mar-08 01:55 03-Mar-08 02:06 100


Simply add up how it can't be done ;)
By:
layem&payem
When: 05 Mar 08 15:26
beat the overound:
Dont let idiots get under your skin.........keep doing what you very good at, let chancers keep trying to get free info.
By:
odwyer1980
When: 05 Mar 08 15:32
Beat the overound. Big deal. A few days of luck. Come back in 3 months.

I won't see you though, because you won't have any noteworthy profit to show.

You can't profit long-term from Horse-racing.
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