Great performance by Leicester, id be all in backing them for promotion this season.

Had a great start to the season at least!.

75' Marseille 1-1 (0-0) Brann

When it was 1-0 M ...and they were 2 goals ahead in tie.....thought LAY BRANN......M should not lose .....but a ricky scoreline if that game was touched.

Can't see BRANN winning though....

wd sky :D

LOL ...money is money :D

90'+ Marseille 2-1 (0-0) Brann

Update-
Bank One
£250
(1) Lay FC Nordsj 1-0 Queen of South (Pre KO) @ 8.2 W £32.98 £282.98
(2) Lay Wisla Krakow 1-1 Barcelona (in play 14mins 0-0) @ 8.6 W£35.37 £315.96
(3) Lay Coventry 1-0 Newcastle (in ET 4mins gone 0-0) @ 9.0 W £37.52 £353.48
(4) Lay Coventry Any Unq v Newcastle (in ET @ HT 0-1) @ 14.0 W £25.83 £379.31
(5) Lay Steaua Bucharest 0-1 Galatasaray (Pre KO) @ 13.0 W £30.03 £409.34
(6) Lay Schalke (currently losing 1-0 v A Madrid 29mins) @ 15.0 Traded @ 150.0 £24.99 £434.33
(7) Lay Liverpool 1-1 Standard (HT 0-0) @ 15.0 W £29.47 £463.80

Bank Two
£250
(1) Lay Gefle 0-1 Helsingborgs (Pre KO) @ 8.8 W £30.45 £280.45
(2) Lay Coventry (in play 13mins 0-0) @ 4.1 W £85.94 £366.39
(3) Lay Nott Forest 0-1 Sunderland (Pre KO) @ 8.4 W £47.03 £413.42
(4) Lay Sunderland (in play, losing 1-0 70mins) @ 14.5 W£29.09 £442.51

Bank One
£250
(1) Lay FC Nordsj 1-0 Queen of South (Pre KO) @ 8.2 W £32.98 £282.98
(2) Lay Wisla Krakow 1-1 Barcelona (in play 14mins 0-0) @ 8.6 W£35.37 £315.96
(3) Lay Coventry 1-0 Newcastle (in ET 4mins gone 0-0) @ 9.0 W £37.52 £353.48
(4) Lay Coventry Any Unq v Newcastle (in ET @ HT 0-1) @ 14.0 W £25.83 £379.31
(5) Lay Steaua Bucharest 0-1 Galatasaray (Pre KO) @ 13.0 W £30.03 £409.34
(6) Lay Schalke (currently losing 1-0 v A Madrid 29mins) @ 15.0 Traded @ 150.0 £24.99 £434.33
(7) Lay Liverpool 1-1 Standard (HT 0-0) @ 15.0 W £29.47 £463.80
(8) Lay in ET Liverpool 2-0 Standard (4mins in ET 0-0) @ 8.0 Poss Profit £62.94

Bank One
£250
(1) Lay FC Nordsj 1-0 Queen of South (Pre KO) @ 8.2 W £32.98 £282.98
(2) Lay Wisla Krakow 1-1 Barcelona (in play 14mins 0-0) @ 8.6 W£35.37 £315.96
(3) Lay Coventry 1-0 Newcastle (in ET 4mins gone 0-0) @ 9.0 W £37.52 £353.48
(4) Lay Coventry Any Unq v Newcastle (in ET @ HT 0-1) @ 14.0 W £25.83 £379.31
(5) Lay Steaua Bucharest 0-1 Galatasaray (Pre KO) @ 13.0 W £30.03 £409.34
(6) Lay Schalke (currently losing 1-0 v A Madrid 29mins) @ 15.0 Traded @ 150.0 £24.99 £434.33
(7) Lay Liverpool 1-1 Standard (HT 0-0) @ 15.0 W £29.47 £463.80
(8) Lay in ET Liverpool 2-0 Standard (4mins in ET 0-0) @ 8.0 W £62.94 £526.74

Bank Two
£250
(1) Lay Gefle 0-1 Helsingborgs (Pre KO) @ 8.8 W £30.45 £280.45
(2) Lay Coventry (in play 13mins 0-0) @ 4.1 W £85.94 £366.39
(3) Lay Nott Forest 0-1 Sunderland (Pre KO) @ 8.4 W £47.03 £413.42
(4) Lay Sunderland (in play, losing 1-0 70mins) @ 14.5 W£29.09 £442.51
(5) Lay Any unq in ET Forest v Sunderland (0-1 @ ET HT) @ 15.0 W £30.02 £472.53

I have profited a total of £500 in the last 24 hours on correct score laying, long may it continue!!

you make it look so easy TOTGA.

doubling both banks that fast.

well done totga so far...
do you put any research into the scores or just pick randomly?

just my opinion totga but I would seriously consider stopping your 'all-in' method. You have built up your profits and I wouldn't want you to have a few bad calls on the bounce and be back at square 1. You study the stats and you sound like you are aware of obtaining value in the odds, well at least not taking very poor prices.
Study as normal, become an expert in that market and take the prices you feel are in your favour. Stake accordingly to what edge you feel you have for every game seperately and you may be able to make profits long term, I can only see you losing in the end with your method. If you are just playing for fun then hats off to you, well done and I hope your good run continues. Forget about progression and all in type staking and use your skill/judgement to make consistant profits.

cheers jeski, your comments are noted but at present this is a bit of fun, and as long as i can keep 1 bank intact, i will be in profit!. Going to see if i can make it to 10 or 15 bets and go from there!

I defo note your comments about "all in" but feel that i have an advantage with 2 banks running at the same time....

I would say that approx 60-70% of my bets are in play, defo over 50% are in-play.

I believe its good to get a slight feel to the game first, although i very rarely go against my initial thoughts, just like to gain the benefit of seeing the first 10-15mins thats all!

bet 1 £100.00 lay BATE1-0 levski 11.5 to win £9.52 WON £109.05
bet 2 £109.05 lay fenerbache 1-0 8.8 to win £13.98 WON £122.34
bet 3 £122.34 lay forest1-0 sunderland IR to win £20.72 WON £142.04
bet 4 £142.04 lay sao paulo 0-0 athletico IR 10-0 to win15.78

hope i wont regret betting when drunk

drunking betting is no good

Aug 13, 2008 Copa Nissan Sudamericana Draw Atletico Parana... 0 - 0 Sao Paulo FC

This was first leg result........

These two way cup ties are "dangerous" to lay 0-0......in first leg especially. there appears to be a tendency for home teams just to play to keep it 0-0, thus avoiding an away goal. BARCELONA were doing this last season for example ...and quite a few other teams at top level.

I know the tie was a 2nd leg , and I would have fancied a goal in that tie as well.......but the fear of losing an away goal takes teams over!

Just look at LIVERPOOL result last night...very similar circumstances. 0-0 1st leg away......you would fancy LIVERPOOL to win on 90 mins.....BUT...they wait until into ET before they turn up pace and go for that winning goal....they hope the away team are knackered by time it is ET. They goat away with it last night....SL would have ruined their plan had they scored in 90 .....

All I am saying is ...beware laying 0-0 in two way ties.

Obviously never just stick on a bet when you are drunk either......as chances are you won't be fully aware of the bet you choose.

TOTGA - you are basically betting on ODDS ON shots, so your strike rate is likely to be very high......and so far so good.

Generally I have been impressed with your understanding of the game and on your bet selection..........and you are already well ahead in profit. So the strategy you have adopted is working fine for you, because you are very good on bet selection, therefore the method adopted is going really well.....keep it going.

As long as you decide to take profit and start at a lower level, the way you did after first week/8 days......then you have a fair chance of being in profit.

It is clear , from your selected bets, that you are not just "guessing"........picking scores at random......that would be a recipe for disaster staking the way you are.

Koo has shown that he is prepared to lose £10,000, then £20,000, then £32,000 ( his "small" bank for a days' betting)..........and his bank has grown rapidly, with days where he has lost his small bank( though those days have been very few).................So the way you are staking for a run of bets will be considered by many as not the way to stake........but now you are operating with "small banks" ( 2x £250) and are prepared to lose them to go for rapid growth,is not much different from Koo. You both rely on your skill in selecting bets .......and both are very good at that.

The strategy of playing with two banks......is a good one ....chances are you don't lose both banks at roughly same time, and one bank can still be sufficient for you to reach target.....PROVIDED BET SELECTION IS OF A GOOD STANDARD, WHICH IT MOSTLY HAS.

Long may your run continue ...and others on thread....( sky will be regretting the "drunken" bet....but at least hopefully something has been learned).

GL with bets today.

DFCIRONMAN.....I have seen many of your excellent detailed posts in the past and was wondering if you believe you can profit from these type of systems where the price isn't massively important and are basically trying to obtain a hight strike rate through study and research. I am coming to the conclusion that finding value is the only way to profit by obtaining prices you feel are in your favour. I would just like to know your views on this please. Thanks

Bank Two
£250
(1) Lay Gefle 0-1 Helsingborgs (Pre KO) @ 8.8 W £30.45 £280.45
(2) Lay Coventry (in play 13mins 0-0) @ 4.1 W £85.94 £366.39
(3) Lay Nott Forest 0-1 Sunderland (Pre KO) @ 8.4 W £47.03 £413.42
(4) Lay Sunderland (in play, losing 1-0 70mins) @ 14.5 W£29.09 £442.51
(5) Lay Any unq in ET Forest v Sunderland (0-1 @ ET HT) @ 15.0 W £30.02 £472.53
(6) Torquay 0-1 York City (Pre KO)@ 12.5 Poss Profit £41.08

smythey 28 Aug 12:08
DFCIRONMAN.....I have seen many of your excellent detailed posts in the past and was wondering if you believe you can profit from these type of systems where the price isn't massively important and are basically trying to obtain a high strike rate through study and research. I am coming to the conclusion that finding value is the only way to profit by obtaining prices you feel are in your favour. I would just like to know your views on this please. Thanks
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smythey - Hi.

The subject of "value" .........eeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkksssssssssssss!!!!!

This is "subjective"........In general making a "value" bet is the only way to go, because it is the only chance of winning. If you keep on making bets at odds that are relatively "poor"....eg 1.78 place bets with horses races in a race with 20 runners , many first time out etc etc ......then you more than likely WILL lose in long run.

I've made such bets before.....and know how basically "stupid" such bets are, when the odds do not reflect a horse's chance of placing. The brain just does not work when such a bet is made.

The bets TOTGA is making are odds on bets.....but it is a question of ..."are the bets value"? From what I have seen of bet selections ...YES .....most of the bets IMO have been "value", due to the chances of such CS happening have been small IMO......there have only been a couple of matches where I thought the bet was very "risky", but that was just my opinion.

So TOTGA's bets, although odds on, have been "value" IMO ]:)

Whereas, say for example K's latest football thread, where he selects 6 CS and backs them to level stakes...."fearing the draw", BUT NOT HAVING A DRAW IN CS SELECTIONS.......I do not think he gets "value" by such blanket bets...at level stakes.

Many of the CS he puts into his selections are just BAD BETS IMO, and unlikely to happen....therefore making such bets his way, dilutes the return IF HE GETS LUCKY AND GETS 1 BET OUT OF 6 "RIGHT"!

He is already losing over 12 points in 4 matches, and as he is only gonna get a small return on his current 6 points "investment" per game.............almost an odds on return if gets 1 score right in 6 selections.

He would be better off listening to his INSTINCT................I thought he did not have any due to his stubbornness not to lay off a CS in games where likely more goals would be scored. He would be more likely to make a "value" bets, than what he is doing just now IMO.

I am sure TOTGA does weigh up the "value" in making her bets.................the value being in selecting scores that are, for various reasons, unlikely to happen. So I do believe it is "massively important" for TOTGA to not do bets that are likely to happen at odds that are not "value".....................she will have a high strike rate, but that is because she is weighing games up very well .( I think there was only 1 game where the whole bank was lost SO FAR.....but that will happen, as it is had being "right" all the time...though K thinks he is !!!!!! ]:))

INSTINCT is a valuable tool in a punter's armoury.....and if you have that, as well as having a good knowledge of your chosen sport, together with being numerate AND "LUCKY"....then you have a fair chance to win. I'm not so sure TOTGA is "systematic" in how she goes about making selections, though many of the bets are after watching matches for say 10/15 minutes.....which is being systematic....I suspect much is just down to having a good knowledge of how certain teams play, and how certain games go ( cup ties etc ), and is INSTINCTIVE in how she selects bets. She appears to be far better than most of us at this way of betting......I am sure it is not just random luck for her success to date.

So ....I agree that "value" is of prime importance
in having a bet ( although "fun" bets are diferent....)...being the bet has a strong chance of coming off, based on your knowledge of the sport, and the odds are in your favour.

Here is hoping I can remember that when I make any bets in future !!!!! :D

Gl with bets today.

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