By the way, I didn't say it was a scam, I said it was likely to be a scam.

I hold the following to be true:

Most tipsters know full well that the information they are providing is worthless. They are modern day snake oil salesmen and in my opinion this equates to being a scammer. Some even admit they don't bet their own tips!

A small minority of tipsters may believe that the information they are providing has value, but by my estimation they are almost certainly wrong.

I'm not saying it's not possible for a tipster to provide a valuable service, but it's extremely unlikely. Pick a hundred tipsters at random, how many of these give the customer an edge?

Any tipping service should initially be viewed with skepticism perhaps even distrust, as it statistically very likely that the service is worthless.

Do you set targets?

Not really, like to bag around a monkey a day though.

if so, is it on a daily, weekly, monthly or even yearly basis?

As above.

How many hours a week do you spend on here?

Every afternoon, maybe a couple of hours in the morning then in preparation, depending on the number of cards on. Spent about 5 hours last Saturday morning swatting up coz there was 5 meetings on.

is it worth it

Is it worth what?

There's no downside to this, apart from trying to explain what I do to folk.

do you hit the monkey daily 3753?

I wouldnt trust a tipster that has less than 2 years of proved results, whilst beeing in Profit over that period.... with that beeing said there arent many tipsters left i would trust.

I guess 99% of those salesman just randomly pick horses and then vanish after 6 months or reopen with a different name or something.

A Tipster who cant provide a spreadsheet or table or something of his live tips for at least a few years is probably a scamming idiot too.

Lastly if a tipster is realy good at what he does he would be too busy placing his own money on his tips instead of selling them to the public pushing down prices therfore worsening results for everyone involved.

very interesting points !

I could happily go away and make up a spreadsheet of winners and placed horses with the odd lay thrown in, but i am offering a free 30 day trial !..in truth you will always get people with your views and you are fully entitled to them providing you are not calling me a con artist or likely scammer !.(thats what my free trial is for )

In my experience this site has some good people but just sitting back and watching on the horse racing forum there are countless so called experts who know this or know that and when their horse gets beat they then start saying " what a**!, what a fiddle "

errrr YES that is what happens people, if it aint a classic, if it aint a trial, there is likely to be a fiddle, and all i am saying is that i call my friends every morning and they tell me what horses people are likely to be saying was a fiddle that afternoon....but basically my 30 day free trial enables people to see how i work, i dont always get exact information, but i can guarantee it is better info than most people get by sitting at home, working weights, distance and draws out that are all**and fiddled anyway, i agree about the punting comment that is why i am on here in the afternoons , i always punt on my tips...because even when i was only punting and not tipping i still looked for the fiddles !..

we all know the score with horse racing, im just saying that i have a better advantage because i dont listen to zoe, cooper and sun tan man moaning about fanshawe putting him away !
i know about that before it happens !

also i am not just a horse racing service , it is very hard to put people away when there is a field of only 2 like darts, football, cricket, tennis , ..

im not being**y i cant stand**y tipsters who are this and that and reckon they are the best thing on 2 legs, i am a knowledgeable person on sport who has friends in the horse racing industry..

i think what you have also got to think about is that there are a lot of people who cant, wont, dont have time to throw themselves whole heartedly into horse racing, you all know as well as i do it takes over your life if you are looking for that non trier in a race, if you are looking for a horse full of legs but blocked in, writing down names , remembering things..some people want the buzz without the grief and is £50 a month worth it to prevent all the aggro but still get the fun and the winners, i believe it is yes !


team hug people ?

dolly do 2.30 exeter (place)

captain imperial 5.10 southwell (win)

only a game 5.40 southwell (win)

good luck ! ha ha

i shall assume it is

Anna1943
Absolutely spot on

You're spamming and trying to take peoples money and you're asking why you should offer proof to those same people! Poor advertising, are you Gerald Ratner?

and as for the silly 3 off the top of my head horses i put on here earlier i would laugh my nuts off if they came in !

im being paid for my opinions whilst you are losing money for yours !

and im dim ????????

i have got you lot responding and nibbling at everything i say so well i cant resist coming back !

reel em in !

what are you offering then soixanteneuf?

Even if a tipping service has 2 years of genuine profit behind it, as soon as a lot of folk start following the tips, the odds become shorter than they otherwise would be and the value is only there for the early birds. There'll be no profit at SP.

imlac1 09 Mar 17:20
Even if a tipping service has 2 years of genuine profit behind it, as soon as a lot of folk start following the tips, the odds become shorter than they otherwise would be and the value is only there for the early birds. There'll be no profit at SP.

So the tipster should have a maximum number of people that he sends the tips to.

I am going to be a tipster, but not as all that have gone before me. You know, trying to tip the winner of a race.

I am going to tell you how the race will be run and how to make a profit before it is over. And sometimes before it has even begun!!



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Betfairy i sort of get your point on "why do i need to sell my tips if they are so good "

that is a valid point and a bit of a naive one too !

money !

isnt that a bit like asking Alan Sugar why he does apprentice when he owns Amstrad ? or

why does theo paphitis do dragons den when he has enough already ?

you can never have enough money and in many ways your argument sort of strengthens my case !

if what i was offering was crap i wouldnt be able to make money would i ?

look guys im not going round and round on this one !!

i have had a bit of fun and im genuinely sorry for some near the mark comments ! i guess you feel about me the way i feel about those clowns who go to cash convertors and buy back the same product for 50 % more a week later ! or the idiots who bet on roulette machines in the bookies, i appreciate the scams out there but i really am being genuine about this and although im maybe naive about setting up my site it is an accurate one and will get many happy punters !

im done with arguing over it , you guys are unfair to judge me without knowing the facts, and i have to accept that im liable to have the anti tipster brigade on my backs !

we all have our mini pet hates in a sport or working environment i dont like working with smokers , they are far worse than me ! they screw their colleagues for thousands by working 2/3 of the time a non smoker does with all his/her fag breaks !

they are real scammers ! not me trying to pass my info on to others for a few quid ! x peace all please on this subject now !

If you want more money, why not simply increase your stakes?

If you want more money, why not simply increase your stakes?

Unless you can answer that with an adequate answer, you are a scammer.

In other words, you're happy to risk other people's money but not your own.

What a jolly nice scammer you are :)

To save anyone else from looking...

dolly do 2.30 exeter (place) - 6TH OF 13

captain imperial 5.10 southwell (win) - 6TH OF 13

only a game 5.40 southwell (win) - 6TH OF 11