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jimmy two times
26 Feb 10 17:11
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60 hours a week?**ckc that!!

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By:
Doyler1987
When: 26 Feb 10 17:22
Hours are of little importance when youre doing something you love.
By:
kohaku
When: 26 Feb 10 18:22
3% of Bank..... Back/Lay,Lay.IR
By:
ibrox
When: 26 Feb 10 18:57
snap
By:
Hopeless bettor
When: 26 Feb 10 19:24
target is to survive :-)
By:
brendanuk1
When: 26 Feb 10 19:56
60 hours a week?**ckc that!!

you could probably do 24 on most weekends alone
By:
Lori
When: 26 Feb 10 19:58
24 hour weekends are for lightweights.
By:
curlywurly
When: 26 Feb 10 21:04
got 18 hours straight this saturday
having sunday off as compensation
By:
buzzer
When: 26 Feb 10 21:09
people do a 40 hour + week in a regular job then spend another 40 on here losing money in the name of recreation, so a 60 hour week earning is not too high a price surely?
By:
GRANTEYE
When: 26 Feb 10 21:15
i spend 10 minutes on a night putting my bets on for the next day so far this month i have had 28 bets and have strike rate of 46% for a profit of £322 to a modest £10 stake increasing stakes as profits grow.
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 26 Feb 10 21:29
^ It won't continue.

But if it's even a fraction of that, you should be happy so well done :)
By:
GRANTEYE
When: 26 Feb 10 21:31
thankyou rocket face but my best months are yet to come
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 26 Feb 10 21:38
rocket face :D


well good luck mate. prove me wrong!
By:
GRANTEYE
When: 26 Feb 10 21:42
todays bets were
moonbalej
thebes
bosamcliff
muwalla
2 for the morn
yarab 420
mahadee 455
By:
CJ
When: 26 Feb 10 21:45
Do you set targets?

In my head, but if i don't hit it so be it.

if so, is it on a daily, weekly, monthly or even yearly basis?

Weekly

How many hours a week do you spend on here?

Depends on the racing, summer more with eve racing.

is it worth it?

Yes, handy tax free second income
By:
Mordin.
When: 26 Feb 10 22:36
Semi Pro

Do you set targets? Yes hope to break through £150,000K before end of May

if so, is it on a daily, weekly, monthly or even yearly basis? Aim to make £1K a week (make that target approx 20 weeks a year)

How many hours a week do you spend on here? 30-35 hours a week

is it worth it? Up £139,600 in 9 years

Would it be worth spending ten years making another £140K?? Not sure, Have 3 children now and a patient wife!!
By:
aye robot
When: 26 Feb 10 22:39
Do you set targets?
Broadly no, but I agree with investor that new players should do- and should quit if they don't hit them.

How many hours a week do you spend on here?
An hour or so most evenings, (going through resuts) one whole day every week working on strategy and more if I'm working intensively on something new. I also keep an eye on how things are going though the day if I'm by a computer anyway.

is it worth it?
Yes, the money makes it worthwhile. Although I do enjoy it that's really what I'm here for, I have absolutely no interest in fun betting and if I started losing I'd quit in a flash.
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 26 Feb 10 22:42
you've clearly got a very very sound edge robot. i'm jelous. i'd never have that much confidence in it. nice one!
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 26 Feb 10 22:43
* it = mine
By:
I am the one and only223
When: 26 Feb 10 23:13
Targets are for people who want a safe steady income. A bit like a job. Gambling isn't like a job.

You can have a good run where you think "yes I've finally cracked it". But you will ALWAYS I repeat ALWAYS have to experience a long losing run where you think "is it worth carrying on?" or "maybe my edge has gone now." or "I'm going to lose all my gains, maybe I should stop now".

That's when you will be tested. And if you pass that, you might consider yourself a pro. But you will always have to go through the long losing run again and again.

It's not about short term targets. But if in the long term you can't make a profit then maybe you should get a proper job.
By:
dukeofpuke
When: 26 Feb 10 23:41
yes but bf is part of it about 50/50 40/60 60/40 or whatever dont care what %

only care about £ overall
By:
Trevh
When: 27 Feb 10 00:02
I do about 10 hours a day and love every minute of it (even though you wouldn't think so when the air turns blue - but swearing is my release valve). I guess it takes a particular type of person to want to sit staring at a computer screen for that long every day! Maybe a sad bstard fits the description lol I dont know, so I guess that makes me a dedicated sad bstard :)

I do have targets, namely 25 points profit per week, but if it's more or less so be it. I have a rule that if I'm ever in a position that I have to deposit funds into BF again then I'll close the account and give up. I spent years depositing and kidding myself before I made the break through.
By:
marky sparky
When: 27 Feb 10 08:53
Mordin. 26 Feb 23:36
Semi Pro

Do you set targets? Yes hope to break through £150,000K before end of May

if so, is it on a daily, weekly, monthly or even yearly basis? Aim to make £1K a week (make that target approx 20 weeks a year)

How many hours a week do you spend on here? 30-35 hours a week

is it worth it? Up £139,600 in 9 years

Would it be worth spending ten years making another £140K?? Not sure, Have 3 children now and a patient wife!!


How much of that 139k do you still have Mordin?
By:
kenilworth
When: 27 Feb 10 10:04
aye robot 26 Feb 23:39


Do you set targets?
Broadly no, but I agree with investor that new players should do- and should quit if they don't hit them


Mmm...when should they quit ? When they have no money left ??
By:
History Maker
When: 27 Feb 10 10:20
Do you set targets? No - they'll make you miss good bets and make bad ones.

if so, is it on a daily, weekly, monthly or even yearly basis? N/A

How many hours a week do you spend on here? Racing hours five or six days a week (depending on the quality of the racing). Miss a few evening meetings, but always watch the replays.

is it worth it? Not to have to do a real job - too f*cking right.
By:
TELL DEL
When: 27 Feb 10 10:42
How many hours a week do you spend on here?

The spare room is my office, and according to the missus, I'm either in that room or out with the dog.
By:
owl4life
When: 27 Feb 10 12:42
some interesting points on here lads

anyone else wist to impart wisdom?
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 27 Feb 10 12:45


owl4life 27 Feb 13:42
some interesting points on here lads

anyone else wist to impart wisdom?





What would you like to know?
By:
owl4life
When: 27 Feb 10 13:05
how bout the original questions 1st alex

not too interested in what tigger may be up to today though

impart away
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 27 Feb 10 13:53
You will need to remind me what the original question was. Assuming that you accept that I am not going to spell out what I do.
By:
Ghetto Joe
When: 27 Feb 10 13:54
Do you set targets?

Yes but usually lower than I'd expect to make

if so, is it on a daily, weekly, monthly or even yearly basis?

Shoukd really be monthly but I do look at things on a weekly basis :(

How many hours a week do you spend on here?

about 5 hours a day during UK racing

is it worth it?

Financially yes, but socially and all the other benefits that go with working no.

I can understand gamblers not wanting to set targets but with trading it's a lot easier to know if you can make it or not so without having some idea of what I'd make I'd find it pointless. Anyone purely gambling on here has my respect as I've tried in the past and just couldn't make it pay enough to be worthwhile or take the ups and downs
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 27 Feb 10 14:09
Do you set targets?

No.

How many hours a week do you spend on here?


A lot and much making less than the minimum wage.


is it worth it?

On rainy days it is. Be comfy warm and just steal money from mugs and there is no need to go out and get cold.



I can understand gamblers not wanting to set targets but with trading it's a lot easier to know if you can make it or not so without having some idea of what I'd make I'd find it pointless. Anyone purely gambling on here has my respect as I've tried in the past and just couldn't make it pay enough to be worthwhile or take the ups and downs




Gamblers don't make money, imo. We need to find some different words to describe this.
By:
mobo
When: 28 Feb 10 21:21
For anyone who wants to go pro - I think it can take a long time to find what system (if any) that you are comfortable with.
I have an article written by a long term gambler which quotes the passage from novice to confident in which the person goes up and down - at times thinking he has found 'the way' several times over!!!
It is only after being burnt several times he finds systems and gains the confidence to follow what he is ok with. I used to have a lot of success with the football cash generator and some savers on correct scores,(burnt and crashed several times) but have found the best to be dutching correct scores and doing a lot of matches but mainly ones I can watch with a view to trade. I am now looking back at a variation of the FSG - standby!!!!! However if you watch a lot of live footy you will see where there are many opportunities to trade.
all the best.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 01 Mar 10 00:23
The Investor 26 Feb 17:07
I think you should at least have a nominal target return (annual). A minimum standard. If you fail to meet it, admit to yourself that maybe it isn't for you.

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By:
Coachbuster
When: 01 Mar 10 00:33
brendanuk1 26 Feb 20:56
60 hours a week?**ckc that!!

you could probably do 24 on most weekends alone

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Interesting point this .... i have often thought to myself ...how many hours is too many ?

If you dont enjoy it all then 2 hours is probably too many ...on the other hand 60 is probably the norm for those who do .

Its 40 for me ,with a further 10 on the forums at a guess :)
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 01 Mar 10 00:37
going to have to cut down on the forum..last week i missed a winner cos i was too busy having a cyber ruck with a numpty :(
By:
Coachbuster
When: 01 Mar 10 01:06
^^^happens to me no end :)
By:
RichardRichard
When: 01 Mar 10 12:37
Mobo is right it has taken me a few years to find the system I'm happy with.I bet 5% of my bank on each selection.
By:
The Betfairy
When: 01 Mar 10 12:43
Interesting point this .... i have often thought to myself ...how many hours is too many ?

I've been thinking alot about this recently, especially since reading about the 80.20 principle (20% of effort results in 80% of the reward, the other 80% effort is largely wasted). Have reached no conclusion yet.
By:
History Maker
When: 01 Mar 10 13:28
Coachbuster 01 Mar 01:23


The Investor 26 Feb 17:07
I think you should at least have a nominal target return (annual). A minimum standard. If you fail to meet it, admit to yourself that maybe it isn't for you.

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I'm inclined to agree with this, but it's important to make a caveat. Let's say that your annual target is £40k. Come October you're up £30k (i.e you're on track), and you think Sad Ken is worth backing at £200@4.2. You should still be putting that £200 on if you're already up £50k or only up £10k. The value of the bet hasn't changed just because you have or haven't hit your targets.

That is all things being equal, and assuming that you've taken out all your profits. If you have the wisdom of Solomon and have been growing your bank and not dipping into it, then you would be putting more on Sad Ken if you were up £50k than £10k.

I suspect that that is roughly what coachbuster and investor were getting at though.
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