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Usaidit
28 Aug 09 16:44
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Just an attempt at keeping my discipline.

I am going to start with a bank of thirty pounds and lay to a liability of six pounds to begin with and take it from there.
All selections will be posted before the off and the price I am matched at stated.
This project will be a combination of form study and strategy.
My form study is sometimes hit and miss but if my discipline holds and with a bit of luck I might be able to make a profit.
One/two selections per day at the most,none on days when I can't find anything I fancy.
I'll start tomorrow and probably be done by Wednesday.

Fingers crossed.
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Report kenilworth August 28, 2009 4:54 PM BST
It's not discipline that counts, it's the picks.
Report Usaidit August 29, 2009 1:15 PM BST
My first selection is hopefully Jimmy Styles in the 3.25 at Newmarket.I have a place lay waiting to be matched @3.35 for 2.55 stake.

Fingers crossed.
Report freddiewilliams August 29, 2009 1:57 PM BST
uve come a long way
Report Jinxy1 August 29, 2009 2:03 PM BST
Good luck Usaidit :)
Report Usaidit August 29, 2009 2:40 PM BST
Jimmy Styles kept on for 3rd so new balance 23.99.

Keeping my discipline so nothing else today.
Report Montie August 29, 2009 6:57 PM BST
Watching with obvious interest Usaidit, good luck.
Report be good August 29, 2009 8:55 PM BST
Wish you all the best Usaidit.
Report pedro39 August 29, 2009 9:32 PM BST
Good luck Usaidit
Report salmon spray August 29, 2009 10:25 PM BST
Another guesser tries his luck :(
Report kenilworth August 29, 2009 10:51 PM BST
We are all guessers.
Report salmon spray August 29, 2009 11:54 PM BST
But I know this one.
Report nightshift man August 30, 2009 5:13 AM BST
Dont do it usaidit :)
Report Glengarry Glen Ross August 30, 2009 10:44 AM BST
gl m8
Report Usaidit August 30, 2009 12:34 PM BST
Right,once more into the breech.

3.30 Yarmouth Piazza San Pietro,I'm trying to get matched at 2.6 and the graph says I should manage it.

Fingers crossed.
Report kavvie August 30, 2009 2:34 PM BST
maybe ur not suited to laying
Report Usaidit August 30, 2009 7:13 PM BST
Piazza San Pietro stayed on for third.

Running total 17.99
Report salmon spray August 30, 2009 9:13 PM BST
Give up ffs :)
Report Fat Dodgy August 30, 2009 9:25 PM BST
Its a times like this that friends rally round and shout abuse.
Report salmon spray August 30, 2009 9:51 PM BST
I am THE OFFICIAL KNOCKER FD.
Report salmon spray August 30, 2009 11:22 PM BST
That doesn`t mean there isn`t an opportunity for others.
Report Dairymilk2009 August 31, 2009 8:09 AM BST
If you're laying for the Place don't be afraid to go up to 6.00 or IR. I have the following system & it varies from 3 pts a day to 20 pts a day - No loss after one week!!
Basically, get yourself a copy of the Daily Mirror. Now find a horse that qualify's (The nearest to the top the better) for 3 pts or less under the top Spotform (so 29 if 32) that's 1 point. If the horse has also came 3rd of higher last time out that's 2 pts (1 pt = £2.00, 2 pts = £5.00 liabilty no higher than £25.00)
Works a treat Mate!! A few days ago I had 15 from 16!!
Report Usaidit August 31, 2009 9:55 AM BST
Cheers for that advice Dairymilk.I'll stick to my usual methods for now,should be ok long term.Feel free to join in if you like,plenty of knockers to go round.
Report Usaidit August 31, 2009 11:29 AM BST
Today's offering is Goodwood Starlight running in the 4.20 at Epsom.I'm on at 3.0.

Fingers crossed.
Report salmon spray August 31, 2009 11:57 AM BST
Is this clown still going ?
Report DFCIRONMAN August 31, 2009 12:13 PM BST
GL Usaidit on above lay to place.

Just had a quick look at race and some comments on race chosen and horse selected etc are -

1. Amateur jockeys race..........mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....so likely open to "odd" results IMO.

2. Horse selected won 4 races out its' first 6 races.......and has run in races in CLASS 2 and 3 mainly since last win.........so down in Class today.....only CLASS 4.

3. Trainer has relation riding horse and the jockey has won before........


I know that " at a glance " the last 6 race record of selection is not "impressive" compared to other 4yo runners in race..................but above factors make it a dodgy place lay IMO......


At least the race looks a highly competitive affair..........................so that should increase chances of place lay coming off..............

With going apparently described as GOOD..............this may effect Penang Cinta as this race is up in class for it..................may be a beter place lay at odds etc..........this would be my "guess" on race for place lay.

GL with thread ....
Report Fat Dodgy August 31, 2009 3:26 PM BST
Thats steadied the boat, were are the KNOCKERS now?
Report DFCIRONMAN August 31, 2009 3:27 PM BST
Usaidit - wd ....was down to 1.22 IR .....so must have been close there ...never saw race , as no RUK now :(
Report Fat Dodgy August 31, 2009 3:33 PM BST
I wouldnt go laying too many of Moores horses at the moment, think he might be getting back to some sort of form after a dreadful time and some of em might be well handicapped.
Report salmon spray August 31, 2009 3:42 PM BST
So the guesser gets one right. JUST.
Will end in tears. Trust me.
Report Usaidit August 31, 2009 3:43 PM BST
Duly noted dodgy,I saw the distances of it's first two wins and took a chance that it would gas out over this distance,especially with 11st3lb on it's back.
Cheers for your insight DFC,all views appreciated.
Report Usaidit August 31, 2009 3:47 PM BST
New Total 20.84.

Same again tomorrow hopefully.
Report salmon spray September 1, 2009 1:46 PM BST
Where are you ?
I need a place back.
Report Usaidit September 1, 2009 2:10 PM BST
OK for today a place lay of Balata in the 3.20 Leicester,I'm on at 3.0

Fingers crossed.
Report DFCIRONMAN September 1, 2009 2:19 PM BST
Like that one Usaidit.....................appears to have "bad draw" for going ....though last year on HEAVY going the winner was also drawn low.

Probably the draw factor combined with weight factor and the number of horses appeatring to have better chances should enable lay to be landed. :D

BATTLE ROYAL and INDIAN TONIC may fight out finish with HIDDEN DOOR..............

GL
Report DFCIRONMAN September 1, 2009 2:23 PM BST
Oh well .....
Report Fat Dodgy September 1, 2009 2:24 PM BST
Here it comes.....
Report DFCIRONMAN September 1, 2009 2:24 PM BST
It was cruising all the race Usaidit ..................so hope you decided to back IR ?????
Report salmon spray September 1, 2009 2:24 PM BST
Thank you Usaidit.
Keep em coming. :D
Report DFCIRONMAN September 1, 2009 2:25 PM BST
Should have layed my 3 U :D :D
Report Fat Dodgy September 1, 2009 2:27 PM BST
Win backing fred of the year imo.
Report lester pickit September 1, 2009 2:36 PM BST
well done usaidit :)
Report lester pickit September 1, 2009 2:38 PM BST
just noticed wern't you doing saleem on registrar :)
Report salmon spray September 1, 2009 2:48 PM BST
No. He thinks Saleem is the best jockey around :^0
Report Usaidit September 1, 2009 2:49 PM BST
New Total 14.84.

Balata stayed on dourly to win by 6 lengths :(
Report salmon spray September 1, 2009 2:52 PM BST
So only just out of the places then ?
Unlucky.
Report Usaidit September 2, 2009 2:36 PM BST
OK,this could be the penultimate place lay so fingers crossed that Scotch Corner in the 3.40 at Hereford runs like it usually does.
Report Usaidit September 2, 2009 2:54 PM BST
Scotch Corner unplaced so we live to guess another day.

New Total 17.02
Report lester pickit September 2, 2009 5:22 PM BST
well done usaidit :)
Report Fat Dodgy September 2, 2009 5:28 PM BST
I had full confidence in you pulling this around. Where is the KNOCKER????
Report Glengarry Glen Ross September 2, 2009 6:13 PM BST
wd Usaidit

GGR
Report salmon spray September 2, 2009 6:30 PM BST
The KNOCKER is here. Holding fire today. Feeling generous.
Report Usaidit September 2, 2009 6:43 PM BST
Well I'm not out of the woods yet salmon.Always tomorrow.
Report salmon spray September 3, 2009 7:16 PM BST
Or the day after.
Report Usaidit September 5, 2009 12:14 PM BST
OK, a place lay of Casual Conquest in the 3.50 Leopardstown @ 2.62

Fingers crossed.
Report salmon spray September 5, 2009 2:57 PM BST
WD Usaidit.
Where are the KNOCKERS now
Report Usaidit September 5, 2009 2:59 PM BST
Thank you salmon.

new total +20.53 so still a bit to do in order to get into profit.
Report stevenage56b September 5, 2009 8:39 PM BST
:)
Report Jinxy1 September 5, 2009 10:40 PM BST
:)
Report salmon spray September 5, 2009 11:28 PM BST
I rather think Jinxy had a few KNOCKERS in his time. Most of them more unpleasant than this one ;)
Report Montie September 6, 2009 4:59 PM BST
Hi Usaidit, still watching with great interest, not easy is it picking place lays at the top end of the market. I'm reluctant to interfer uninvited but if you are interested I do have a suggestion which might help you which was part of my place laying straegy and which saved me quite alot of lays going wrong. If you want my input indicate on here and I'll watch out for it. Good luck, Montie.
Report PHS September 6, 2009 7:49 PM BST
Hi Montie,
I've just been doing record keeping. Since you started your thread, and inc where I've continued to place lay, my ROI after comm (5%) is a rather dissapointing 3.2%. Suppose I should be grateful for any profit, but it's hard work.

Are you up to anything interesting on systems/strategies ?
Report Usaidit September 6, 2009 10:04 PM BST
All suggestions will be taken on board Montie.
Report salmon spray September 6, 2009 10:51 PM BST
He certainly needs some help imo.
Report Montie September 8, 2009 7:49 PM BST
Hi PHS, I'm trading at the moment with a successful strategy I've developed but it has to be kept private because even 2 or 3 people doing it would reduce its effectiveness.

Hi Usaidit, when I was place laying, after I had found a horse which met my criteria the final check I made in the last 15 minutes before the off was to watch the bookmakers win odds and if they move in sgnnificantly I abandonded the lay, the the odds stayed about the same or went out the lay went ahead. The odds movement in the last 15 minutes seems to be a pretty good indicator of what the clever money is expecting of the horse. You probably remember the number of times I called off a lay just before the off and saved many a lay going wrong.
Report stevenage56b September 13, 2009 4:07 PM BST
Good luck with this project, marathon trainer & place layer of horses, Usaidit. :)

:D
Report Usaidit December 22, 2009 7:12 PM GMT
I will resume this in the new year with a couple of changes

Merry Christmas all
Report xxlandofsmilesxx December 23, 2009 7:20 AM GMT
I post my place lays here http://www.onlineoffersforyou.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=93&t=1097
Report Usaidit May 6, 2010 4:17 PM BST
let's try this again
Report lester pickit May 7, 2010 12:45 AM BST
and make it a bigger place Happy
Report Usaidit March 3, 2012 11:37 AM GMT
Back up and running

Lester is having

3.45 Newbury Rebel Dancer

3.55 Lingfield Nelson's Bounty
Report lester pickit March 17, 2012 2:07 PM GMT
Grin
Report lester pickit March 17, 2012 2:50 PM GMT
afters all Grin

3 for me today

305 newcastle LITTLE BOB @ 4
335 ffoslas BENCH WARRENT @ 3.15
400 wexford AMERICAN JOB @ 3.4

would have done 520 newcastle glaced over but it's 4 to be placed
Report lester pickit March 18, 2012 11:37 AM GMT
morning all Grin

2 for today

400 carlisle STORYMAKER @ 3.85

445 newton  BEAT ALL OUT @ 3.4
Report lester pickit March 22, 2012 3:00 PM GMT
afters all Grin 8/8

2 today to hopefully keep the 100% record going

510 carlisle TWICE LUCKY @ 2.44

525 chepstow UN AMI @ 3.2
Report lester pickit March 23, 2012 12:31 AM GMT
DAMN BLAST LOOOK AT MY PAST,Cool

9/10 90% ticked all the boxes but comes 2nd Cry

we will rock you Grin
Report lester pickit March 31, 2012 12:06 PM BST
afters all Grin

215 stratford ALLEZ LES ROUGES @ 3.2
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