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if its wet get me out of here
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Great write up, i read it as soon as you posted it as i was keeping an eye out for something. Im looking at starting afresh maybe start of December with a £1,000 bank and no more than 2% per bet,with an aim of hopefully increasing the bank so that 2% bets become larger so the winnings are. Can i ask how much your bank is and p/l for the past 3 months dave? Do you think im out of control at 18?
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I'm nicking your write-up Dave, good post
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Firstly, let me thank you for all the help you've given me.
That is a very powerful write up and there's ALOT i can relate to. I'll have a think of what you've just said, sleep on it and get back to you. There's alot of points in there which i strongly agree with. It's the betting saying (I've heard on here) which i kidded myself that i had - Patiences + Discipline = Profits. |
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good post dave,
i tip my hat to u, for the time u have taken to write some good advice. |
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Rictus.
I don't think you are out of control. But you need to get a grip of yourself. Take a little break and think about what is in my posting. Do your homework too. You were lucky tonight, best not to get yourself into that position again. You can ask about my P/L, but that isn't something that I'm going to post. What I will do though is share my Return On Investment or ROI if you prefer. It is 47.59% at last calculation. For every pound I invest I earn 47.59p and long may it continue! I.quit.my.job. What were you planning to do with this posting? |
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' Personally I use 1%. Some may think that is small, but if you are good it will grow. You could use 2%, but I wouldn't go any higher. '
I'm into my Tennis betting, that's going to take some thinking. |
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It might feel low, but what you have got to remember is that your number one priority is to protect your bank. You cannot take undue risks. Don't forget about all these upsets that happen in tennis too! Retiring when about to win. Not for me!
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your number one priority is to protect your bank. You cannot take undue risks.
Dave, seriously the only way you can do those things is not to bet. |
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47.59% that's remarkable Dave, have you only had one bet this year at 1/2 ;)
I've just saved it mate for reference......I'm piecing together everything I've learnt in the past few months and putting it all into a strategy.........To attack the markets once again with more firepower and more importantly a clearer mind. |
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Thats the introduction to my ebook done , cheers
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all of Dave Edwards intro is right here but with a little bit more indepth :D 207 pages
"Trading in the zone" by Mark Douglas....very good to the starting trader "The Black Swan" by Nassim Nicholas Taleb... excelent for everyone hope i've helped |
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lippy, if you are going to rob this, then do I get a credit for it and a free copy???
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Lusitano71 24 Nov 01:51
all of Dave Edwards intro is right here but with a little bit more indepth 207 pages "Trading in the zone" by Mark Douglas....very good to the starting trader "The Black Swan" by Nassim Nicholas Taleb... excelent for everyone hope i've helped .............................................................. I'm certainly not claiming this to be the final word on the subject and I'm sure there is work out there that goes an awful lot further than this. Just trying to offer a few pointers to someone I'd promised to try to help! |
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Dave
I know your heart is in the right place, but your advice is just generalised balderdash.Good gamblers are born not made. It's all about maths really and if you hae no propensity for that subject, then you will never be a successful gambler ( sorry investor). |
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FINE AS FROG HAIR 24 Nov 06:45
Dave I know your heart is in the right place, but your advice is just generalised balderdash.Good gamblers are born not made. It's all about maths really and if you hae no propensity for that subject, then you will never be a successful gambler ( sorry investor). ................................................................. Interseting point my friend, but that is bullsh!t. |
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I admit I have been naughty over the years....I'll go and stand in the corner.
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47.59% is a figure that is hard to believe, equivelent to a 75% strike rate backing evens chances. I wonder how you arrive at that figure.
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The number one reason people lose is because of the message we receive about betting
I'm no psychologist but i would have that very near the bottom of my list, i think granny would of been right saying all gamblers lose/ the only winners are the bookies. 10 years ago on the high st the markets would have 15-30% overrounds, now you have 100% books which should clearly demonstrate the opportunities. Personally i would have strategy as the number one reason people win/lose, but your comments are'nt to help me and i hope they are useful to wet. |
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What exactly is bullshine Dave ?.
You don't need mathematical skills to be a good gambler ? You can't teach a non-mathematical person to be a natural at maths ? You're not talking generalised balderdash? Your heart is not in the right place ? Please enlighten me, if you have the time and the patience. |
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A few contradictory doucble negatives there Dave, but please overlook, if you can.
Feekin conversing on a computer drives me nuts sometimes. |
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frog,
I agree it is too generalised for me, but hes trying to help someone and maybe it will! (i doubt it) I have to disagree that you need to be good at maths, i have a average C grade G.C.S.E. but would put myself in the top % of winners here, while basic maths is useful its all about strategy. (and im calling Dave too general lol) |
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FINE AS FROG HAIR 24 Nov 10:05
What exactly is bullshine Dave ?. You don't need mathematical skills to be a good gambler ? You can't teach a non-mathematical person to be a natural at maths ? You're not talking generalised balderdash? Your heart is not in the right place ? Please enlighten me, if you have the time and the patience. All that is needed is a crystal ball. |
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I was just in the middle of typing a large response, but I've deleted it. I can't be bothered responding. This thread was specifically aimed at If It's Wet in order to help. This approach works for me and has been posted in good faith.
If anyone doesn't like it, I couldn't care less. To Kenilworth, I do quite often back in large odds ranges, I'm not really a football backer, albeit I think I know more about it than most who post on the football forum. I stand by the roi. |
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If fact, thinking about it apart from one specific thread that I'll go back to on certain days I'm finished with the forums now.
You try to help, offer constructive advice and you get what in return? Adios amigos! |
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Dave, this thread was a success as I've took your thoughts on board and I will be betting with them in mind.
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Dave Edwards, the only way an ROI of +47.59 can be achieved is over a short term on big prices, not even either, but both. If you want to go off in a sulk because it is queried, then you must do that.
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Strategy. Value. Paper. Timing. Consistancy. Discipline. Realism.
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Strategy. Value. Paper. Timing. Consistancy. Discipline. Realism.
Paper ? Timing ? |
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If Its Wet Drink It 24 Nov 20:31
"Dave, this thread was a success as I've took your thoughts on board and I will be betting with them in mind." really means "yeah yeah whatever". |
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always paper trade first.
once playing for real, timing is a major factor. |
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Paper trading is a waste of time, because it doesn't exist, only in the mind. Test only with money, even minimum stakes, it concentrates the mind.
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well on that we'll have to disagree kev.
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Zola, please don't call me Kev as it just makes you seem silly.
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I thought the orignal post was pretty long, didn't it come down to, be disciplined and don't chase your losses but did it reallly tell you how to make a profit on the exchange in the first place?
I would suggest if you took davedwards advice to stay disciplined you would'nt bet atoll because you do not have an edge; in those circumstances betting surely could only ever make you poor. So Daves advice must be if I understand it, not to bet. |
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Is this the Dave Edwards the Colossus of the Stopwatch?
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The lady doth protest too much?
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once playing for real, timing is a major factor
Zola, a vague sort of comment. Could you please explain what you mean by 'timing is a major factor' ? |
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Historical data for strategy testing is not the same as placing bets on an evolving market.
Once you think you have a good basis for selections, watching the market is crucial. Going in at specific trigger points or drip feeding with larger orders all requires time and timing. |