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sqzy
28 Nov 09 05:35
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Interested in meeting professional gamblers to form syndicate. We currently have cricket experts who make approx 12% ROI and are looking to expand into full time investing with other individuals who have expertise in other sports. Must have a decent cv and proven track record.
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Report lippy November 28, 2009 5:37 AM GMT
Ask Carlsten
Report Joel November 28, 2009 5:39 AM GMT
Lippy is your man if the team needs a ramper.
Report I.quit.my.job November 28, 2009 6:08 AM GMT
I am giving you 10% for free on my thread.........how long I will keep posting though is another matter

I am not interested in a GAMBLING syndicate, I am interested in an INVESTMENT syndicate

Gambling is taking risks and chances, there is no such thing as luck. It is hard research and knowledge that gets you through the day
Report Thin and Crispy November 28, 2009 6:20 AM GMT
Must have a decent cv and proven track record.

Now that is funny..........give me a minute and I'll make one up which I hope will be to your satisfaction.
Report lippy November 28, 2009 7:04 AM GMT
Joels your man if you want a smartarse
Report The Visionary November 28, 2009 8:18 AM GMT
be careful if the taxman comes knocking
Report dlarssonf November 28, 2009 9:36 AM GMT
I.quit.my.job 28 Nov 07:08


I am giving you 10% for free on my thread.........how long I will keep posting though is another matter

I am not interested in a GAMBLING syndicate, I am interested in an INVESTMENT syndicate

Gambling is taking risks and chances, there is no such thing as luck. It is hard research and knowledge that gets you through the day

ffs. don't be fooling yourself that your thread is not gambling
Report TELL DEL November 28, 2009 9:59 AM GMT
"Gambling is taking risks and chances, there is no such thing as luck. "

BUT luck always plays a part. All you can do, as far as possible, is eliminate the major risks.
Report I.quit.my.job November 28, 2009 11:45 AM GMT
gambling is a nasty word that means taking careless risks..........my bets are not gambles, they are investments that I hope will grow over time..........the same as investing in shares, property or a pension plan. It's like buying a loaf of bread. Define gambling......
Report DFCIRONMAN November 28, 2009 11:51 AM GMT
"Gambling is taking risks and chances, there is no such thing as luck. "


Tell that to ROI players re their elimination ......................................
Report DFCIRONMAN November 28, 2009 11:52 AM GMT
Two players handle ball and HENRY was offside as soon as ball hit hand of first player..................no such thing as LUCK ]:) :D
Report I.quit.my.job November 28, 2009 11:53 AM GMT
no such thing as luck I've learnt.............things happen for a reason in life, the reasons are unknown in some cases, that brings us to religion

I've googled gambling and sports betting is in there, but I'm disappointed not to see stocks and shares, investing in property, starting a business or crossing the road in there.
Report I.quit.my.job November 28, 2009 11:56 AM GMT
the Henry example happened for a reason
Report DFCIRONMAN November 28, 2009 11:59 AM GMT
What was the "reason" prey tell me????
Report I.quit.my.job November 28, 2009 12:03 PM GMT
Im not God DFC...........try praying

It might be we finally see the introduction of technology and better officials to our game...........no consolation to the Paddies though
Report Alex the old wrinkled retainer November 28, 2009 12:05 PM GMT
sqzy 28 Nov 06:35
Interested in meeting professional gamblers to form syndicate. We currently have cricket experts who make approx 12% ROI and are looking to expand into full time investing with other individuals who have expertise in other sports. Must have a decent cv and proven track record.



If I have a proven track record then why would I want to join a syndicate? What is in it for me?
Report DFCIRONMAN November 28, 2009 12:08 PM GMT
When the assistant linesman and referee cannot see the first players stick a hand up in the air and deflect ball to HENRY who is subsequently OFFSIDE as soon as hits first player's hand .....then HENRY handles ball with neither assistants or ref seeing that either.....then that is without nothing to do with religion at all.....................it is the chance happening of fortunate or adverse events = LUCK...............................
Report aceofspades November 28, 2009 12:09 PM GMT
was just about to ask exactly the same question: i am genuinely interested, what would someone who is successful at this game have to gain from joining a syndicate?
Report Alex the old wrinkled retainer November 28, 2009 12:10 PM GMT
Luck evens out so therefore there is no such thing as luck.
Report Alex the old wrinkled retainer November 28, 2009 12:13 PM GMT
aceofspades 28 Nov 13:09
was just about to ask exactly the same question: i am genuinely interested, what would someone who is successful at this game have to gain from joining a syndicate?




I might find out, then again I might not. This is not something that I am gagging to apply for, quite the opposite. It needs to be sold to me. What are the net benefits?
Report DFCIRONMAN November 28, 2009 12:14 PM GMT
Apologise for posting to thread sqzy........................LUCK does exist ........therefore saying it evens out does not take away the fact that LUCK can effect a bet. To say there is "no such thing as luck" is just inaccurate .......

Last post on subject.

Gl with syndicate
Report Alex the old wrinkled retainer November 28, 2009 12:16 PM GMT
Luck might exist in the short term but it does not in the long term.
Report I.quit.my.job November 28, 2009 12:17 PM GMT
things happen for a reason my friend DFC, maybe the officials wanted that to happen........what's lucky about someone's poor performance? in this case a referee's poor performance.............poor performances happen all the time, no1 can be perfect............so there's your reason......last post on the subject :)
Report Alex the old wrinkled retainer November 28, 2009 12:21 PM GMT
With all these last posts there will be nobody left soon.
Report I.quit.my.job November 28, 2009 12:22 PM GMT
if your making 12% on something, why would you need to bet in other sports, why not just operate with a bigger bank?
Report d13phe November 28, 2009 12:54 PM GMT
footsoldiers is your man
Report Gambler666 November 28, 2009 3:46 PM GMT
I.quit.my.job 28 Nov 13:22


if your making 12% on something, why would you need to bet in other sports, why not just operate with a bigger bank?

Wouldn't you collapse the market by using a bigger bank? I mean any given market has finite liquidity............
Report Eldrick November 28, 2009 4:02 PM GMT
there's no turnover figures to put the 12% in context

some of the biggest winners on betfair make well under 1% ROI but they turnover tens of millions

does the 12% edge lead to profits of £10k a year? £100k? £500k?
Report Hopeless bettor November 28, 2009 4:09 PM GMT
I have 100k inheritance I recently got, how do I put my money into the sydicate ?

PLease contact me ASAP!!!
Report curlywurly November 28, 2009 5:16 PM GMT
decent cv ffs

what are the wages then? do we get holiday pay? pensions?

the only 'expert' i'm interested in is one that can get me canadian pictures for the american stuff
Report bobby2424 November 28, 2009 5:24 PM GMT
sqzy 28 Nov 06:35


Interested in meeting professional gamblers to form syndicate. We currently have cricket experts who make approx 12% ROI and are looking to expand into full time investing with other individuals who have expertise in other sports. Must have a decent cv and proven track record.




What a load of shight !! :^0

You recruiting for the CEO of Betfair? or somethin' :D
Report no moves November 28, 2009 5:53 PM GMT
I believe the first post on this subject was put up at 6.35 gmt, unless this contributor lives abroad isn't that a curious time to iniate a process which could involve large finacial transactions, the question I would like to ask is how serious do you think this person was in his plee for other people to join his syndicate?
Report Lori November 28, 2009 6:29 PM GMT
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"There are very few consistent winners on Betfair, and none of them live in the UK"
Report zipper November 28, 2009 7:49 PM GMT
Lori ......... ** ..What planet are you on .
Report zipper November 28, 2009 7:53 PM GMT
lori ok testicles .....
Report PorkiePie November 28, 2009 7:54 PM GMT
IMO it's impossible to make money on cricket long term unless you know what's going on in the dressing room.
Report Lori November 28, 2009 8:06 PM GMT
You must have missed the quote assigned to the man in the picture zip.
Report Lori November 28, 2009 8:10 PM GMT
http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=32&thr...
Report Lori November 28, 2009 8:11 PM GMT
http://www.allbusiness.com/economy-economic-indicators/money-currencies/13209070-1.html

Thats a copy of the exact article.
Report Hopeless bettor November 28, 2009 8:45 PM GMT
Lori is right. Everyone to the DAQ!
Report chicken shack November 28, 2009 10:33 PM GMT
can i buy shares in this syndicate cos this beats the three man card trick and g.brown might invest money through this with theunemployment.
Report PorkiePie November 28, 2009 11:23 PM GMT
Are you looking for the cash investment or the expertise? There are a lot of experts about but not many with the cash to back up their opinion. Be careful who you listen to and take who yu take on board. Good Luck with your venture. P P
Report chicken shack November 28, 2009 11:46 PM GMT
bernie madoff gets to use the internet from the jail.
Report sqzy November 29, 2009 12:28 PM GMT
I was presuming the benefits of a syndicate are obvious. In financial terms, using a syndicate will increase the number of markets we bet on which will in turn reduce the standard deviation in our profit. Keeping the SD low is a key element in professional gambling. It not only helps when organising expenditure and paying mortgages etc it also helps mentally. I think it is quite obvious that people would rather earn £50K a year than £10K year 1 70K year 2 25K year 3 95K year 4 etc etc.

as for a cv and proven track record. We are looking for genuine people who have good employment records (do not need to be employed now but at some point in the past) as we are looking for people with business minds, good mathmatical skills and can communicate etc etc etc. Obviously a proven track record is essential. We have 3 years of betting proof with betfair that shows our ROI throughout. Our turnover is currently approx £750,000 pa.

It is not essential to have complete financial backing and is not essential to turnover anything close to these figures although the bigger the better. We can anaylse any liquidity issues so the most important factor is the ROI. It must be proven over a large number of bets and over a timescale of at least 2 years
Report surgeon November 29, 2009 12:39 PM GMT
Do not write of the importance of luck in anything imo
Report surgeon November 29, 2009 12:39 PM GMT
Do not write of the importance of luck in anything imo
Report Lori November 29, 2009 1:15 PM GMT
as for a cv and proven track record. We are looking for genuine people who have good employment records (do not need to be employed now but at some point in the past)

because traditionally those people are great pro gamblers.
Report sqzy November 29, 2009 1:29 PM GMT
An 'Allrounder' who has previosuly been employed and had a good employment record may well be less inclined to go off the rails and may deal with the swings in p/l better.

Just trying to swerve the young guys who have come straight from college and have experienced a great run but have yet developed enough skills to deal with the low points in professional gambling. A guy like 'Durr' in the poker world is an example of someone I am trying to avoid. He may well have a fantastic skill level but other personality traits are important. We want solid, experienced and mentally strong individuals. This is not to say we would not get involved with young mavericks but it is not our ideal business partner.
Report d13phe November 29, 2009 1:33 PM GMT
how much do you pay?
Report Lori November 29, 2009 1:50 PM GMT
An 'Allrounder' who has previosuly been employed and had a good employment record may well be less inclined to go off the rails and may deal with the swings in p/l better.

or they may not.

In fact, I'd say that people who are used to an income as opposed to people who have gambled all their life are going to handle swings badly.

or they may not.

Either way it seems pretty daft to ask for a CV for a pro gambler. Gamblers by their nature don't fit into nice little boxes.

FWIW Dwan would be able to muller anything he put his mind to and although I understand your point, you couldn't have picked a worse example.
Report NonShy.. November 29, 2009 1:56 PM GMT
ask jordan belfort his opinion on young mavericks!!
Report Extractor November 29, 2009 7:29 PM GMT
I tried something similar a couple of years ago. Around 15 people applied. Today I exchange tips with two of them but they are quality.
Report aye robot November 29, 2009 7:47 PM GMT
No one with any sense will join, trust issues aside anyone smart enough to win will make this assessment:

I am only of use to the rest of the syndicate if they are able to get more from me than they have to give to me. Therefore, if they want me I'm better off out.
Report Hopeless bettor November 29, 2009 7:56 PM GMT
you haven't got intouch yet mate. my 100k is sitting in a current account gaining a measly 0.1% interest.

please!
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR November 29, 2009 7:59 PM GMT
What's to stop this "syndicate" from stealing all my ideas/profits and not giving anything back in return.
If I am already earning good money, with a measurable and relatively steady volatility, and it is only a question of my scaling up my bet size over time, then why would I need to join any syndicate and give away my secrets ?
All downside and no upside imo, except for losers and bludgers.
Report sqzy November 29, 2009 8:48 PM GMT
Our syndicate does not steal or even look at your programmes/simulators if you do not want us to. Its primary function is to lower the SD of individuals profit while having no adverse affect on the mean profit.
Report YOULITTLEBOTTY November 29, 2009 8:52 PM GMT
Fair enough if I need my SD to be lowered in the first place.
You sound genuine and I wish you all success in your endeavours to spread your risk so to speak.
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