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By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 05 Nov 09 14:55
Betfair Starting Price: 7.0 for RISAALA ....a cost again :(
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 05 Nov 09 14:55
Towcester 3.50
1st 7 Risaala 11-2
2nd 1 Blakeneys Pet (IRE) 4-1 JF
3rd 5 Poppy Lee Brown 8-1
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 05 Nov 09 14:58
BANK was before Risaala win was 1232.87 points

STAKE RETURN on win 45.42
WIN PROFIT 6.4 X 45.42 - 5 % 276.15
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COMPOUND ATTEMPTS BANK now 1,554.44 points
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 05 Nov 09 15:04
4.10 Caprysse



COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1,554.44 points
Available odds: 10 (betfair)
My odds: 6-1 (14.29 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 66.30 points WIN


SFC cover with JUST FOR JEAN too beat it 5 points
SFC cover with SURE JOSIE SURE 5 points
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 05 Nov 09 15:07
It is the usual on here.........I feel a bit like JORDAN ..........after reduction surgery .......I used to have 2 knockers ...and no sign of em now ]:) :D :D
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 05 Nov 09 15:16
Caprysse IR win odds


5.00 £5 £245
5.10 £7
5.30 £14
5.40 £9
5.60 £14
5.70 £30
5.80 £4
5.90 £16
6.00 £393
6.20 £126
6.40 £143
6.60 £26
6.80 £22
7.00 £15 £343
7.20 £59
7.40 £42
7.60 £3
8.00 £6
8.20 £437
8.40 £1,994
8.60 £3,073
8.80 £3,619
9.00 £5,414
9.20 £3,982
9.39 £368 £3,984
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 05 Nov 09 15:17
Haydock 4.10
1st 11 Sure Josie Sure (FR) 2-1 F
2nd 5 Just For Jean (IRE) 11-2
3rd 1 Last Of The Bunch 4-1


At least had right 2 for SFCS .......but Caprysse not 2nd :(
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 05 Nov 09 15:23
CLOSING BANK TODAY 1,478.14 POINTS



Now in profit (paper) over all after the 2 ATTEMPS threads re KELLY calculator use etc........................of 478.14 points.

As there was over 400 points less profit today due to posting winner early on here compared to BF SP odds on Le Platino (GER) winning .....and was a wee bit "unlucky" with horse being brought down at last fence when looked a winner IMO.........costing 130 points approx......, then today was another "good" day.......and as usual the knockers are nowhere to be seen ]:)

Away for tea....................

Gl with bets on footy tonight if "playing"

Cheers the nooooooooooooooooooo
By:
gleeman
When: 05 Nov 09 15:25
Nice work, DFC!
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 05 Nov 09 15:34
Thanks gleeman.................................got some luck today .....but was due some.........all tends to smooth out in long run.......

Wen reach 1,000 points profit will just keep thread going with profit bank............well that is the plan for this thread so far.................

Gl with bets.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 06 Nov 09 10:58
Morning.

1478.14 points in profit this week on 2nd ATTEMPT at using Kelly calculator, so ,if you deduct the loss of 1,000 points from 1st ATTEMPT, then there is an over all profit of 448.14 points.

No surprise the 2 knockers from 1st thread are strangely quiet..........they have not spouted the same repetitive c ra p as before.............]:) They seem to be oblivious to the fact that ,when selecting horses that generally are at higher odds , there will be periods when a bank is lost. There will also be periods when , if you have sufficient edge/s,, when you can rapidly increase a bank....just like the last 6 days.

They would not accept , due to me not watching much racing the last 12 months, that I needed a period of catching up with current racing before returns would happen more frequently. IMO the loss on first thread was a combination of the circumstances described in last sentence, and also me getting used to using Kelly Calculator to help with STAKING. The last 6 days profit of 1,478.14 points indicates that my standard of selection is IMPROVING, as is my use of Kelly Calculator..............It could have been well over 2,000 points profit the last 6 days, if I was not posting well before OFF time ( like winner yesterday where the odds I posted were 15s and at BF SP they were approx. 25s.........a substantial difference). However, I knew this would happen, and it is just a cost of operating this thread ( only PAPER etc).

Have to go out today......pubs await!!!! So only doing 1 race today. Spent 2 mins on it , and it is a fairly open race, but will take a chance on -
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3.50 Hexham - BRIERY STAR

COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1478.14 points
Available odds: 7.6 (betfair)
My odds: 5-1 (16.67 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 49.96 points WIN


Gl with bets today.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 09:25
Morning. have to do some "chores" early on, so wil post a few now.

11.55 - Too many in with a chance and going makes it tricky in an APPRENTICE H/C race. So PASS on this one.

12.15 McMurrough

COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1428.18 points
Available odds: 3 (betfair)
My odds: 6-4 (40 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 120.27 points WIN

As cover wil select a SFC with MILAN'S MAN to beat McMurrough for 10 points.
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12.25 No selection ...not keen on shape of race.
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12.30 - Blue Express


COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1297.91 points before races above.
Available odds: 4.8 (betfair)
My odds: 3-1 (25%)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 54.83 points WIN
=======================================================

GL with bets today
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 11:24
Kelso 12.15
1st 6 Mcmurrough (IRE) 2-1
2nd 3 Canadian Blaze (IRE) 15-2
3rd 4 Doc Wells (IRE) 16-1

Good start !
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 11:27
BANK was 1243.08 before MCMURROUGH win

STAKE RETURN 120.27
WIN PROFIT Mcmurrough 120.27x2 - 5% 228.51
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COMBINED BANK before next race 1591.86 points
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 11:31
12.40 - Diamond Brook

COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1591.86 points before races above.
Available odds: 5.3(betfair)
My odds: 7-2(22.22%)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 50.61 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 11:33
BLUE EXPRESS was Betfair Starting Price: 7.415962


So again losing out on posting early here! Just a cost of operating thread.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 11:39
12.50 - Shaylee

COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1541.25 points before 12.40 race
Available odds: 8.8 (betfair)
My odds: 6-1 (14.29 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 41.97 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 11:45
DIAMOND BROOK IR odds win market not very good

4.00 £0 £165
4.10 £38 £35
4.20 £19
4.40 £241
4.50 £191
4.60 £664
4.70 £2,213
4.80 £1,244
4.90 £1,802
5.00 £3,654
5.10 £6,034
5.20 £17,298
5.30 £22,898
5.40 £8,209
5.47 £396 £2,357
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 11:48
1.00 - Redden

COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1499.28 points before 12.50 race
Available odds: 6.8 (betfair)
My odds: 5-1 (16.67 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 23.19 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 11:56
1.05 3 runner race ....and don't like shape or odds ...so PASS.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 11:59
1.15 - Its Crucial

COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1476.09 points before next race
Available odds: 10.50 (betfair)
My odds: 7- 1 (12.50 7 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 41.40 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 12:03
REDDEN IR odds in win market


2.00 £130 £865
2.02 £15 £462
2.04 £24
2.10 £10 £122
2.12 £10
2.14 £8
2.22 £24
2.26 £50
2.30 £26
2.32 £54

2.34 £26
2.40 £26
2.44 £6
2.50 £4 £241
2.52 £128
2.54 £21
2.56 £100
2.60 £22
2.62 £100 £686
2.64 £125
2.66 £12
2.74 £20 £391
2.82 £11 £10
2.90 £20
2.92 £28
2.94 £64
3.00 £117 £473
3.05 £196
3.10 £128
3.15 £61
3.20 £5 £82
3.25 £96
3.30 £63
3.40 £74
3.45 £0
3.50 £28
3.55 £2
3.60 £31
3.65 £19 £309
3.75 £4
3.90 £24
3.95 £4
4.00 £99 £144
4.10 £56
4.20 £55
4.50 £100
4.90 £24
5.00 £9 £1,446
5.10 £71
5.20 £31
5.40 £10 £1,860
5.43 £686 £3,037
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 12:07
1.25 - Harmony Brig

COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1434.69 points before next race
Available odds: 16 (betfair)
My odds: 10- 1 (9.09 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 38.89 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 12:21
IT'S CRUCIAL odds in win market IR



6.40 £165
6.60 £90
6.80 £113
7.00 £357
7.20 £124
7.40 £18

7.60 £192
7.80 £1,245
8.00 £486
8.20 £316
8.40 £129
8.60 £2 £334
8.80 £317
9.00 £1,741
9.20 £3,326
9.40 £6,341
9.60 £5,638
9.80 £2,370
10.00 £3,364
10.10 £237 £4,886
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 12:24
1.35 very competitive race ...so no time to weigh up...therefor PASS on.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 12:27
HARMONY BRIG Betfair Starting Price: 19.981661
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 12:32
1.40 - Zarinski

COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1395.80 points before next race
Available odds: 3.3 (betfair)
My odds: 2-1 (33.33 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 39.33 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 12:38
1.45- Caoba

COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1356.47 points before next race
Available odds: 7.2 (betfair)
My odds: 5-1 (16.67 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 34.21 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 12:44
1.55 - Quick Will

COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1322.26 points before 1.40 race
Available odds: 14.50 (betfair)
My odds: 9-1 (10%)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 39.44 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 12:46
ZARINSKIE IR win odds


1.13 £1,006
1.14 £97
1.18 £448
1.19 £38
1.20 £1,198
1.21 £3,780
1.22 £94
1.23 £16 £537
1.24 £51
1.25 £3,346
1.26 £147
1.30 £427
1.31 £398
1.32 £326
1.33 £2,731
1.34 £346
1.35 £4
1.36 £214
1.37 £20
1.38 £2 £3,594
1.39 £14 £72
1.40 £2,785
1.41 £165

1.42 £730
1.43 £366
1.44 £1,004
1.45 £2,564
1.46 £41
1.47 £54
1.48 £225
1.49 £120
1.50 £9,897
1.51 £5,187
1.52 £7,437
1.53 £373
1.54 £538
1.55 £1,696
1.56 £10 £1,690
1.57 £2,295
1.58 £1,140
1.59 £1,852
1.60 £5,111
1.61 £146
1.62 £687
1.63 £346
1.64 £717
1.65 £454
1.66 £99
1.67 £304
1.68 £114
1.69 £344
1.70 £1,500
1.71 £1,303
1.72 £67
1.73 £82
1.74 £439
1.75 £20
1.76 £473
1.77 £201
1.78 £963
1.80 £9,737
1.81 £21
1.82 £28
1.85 £201
1.86 £86
1.88 £263
1.89 £2,647
1.90 £2,332
1.91 £186
1.92 £120
1.93 £473
1.94 £740
1.95 £40
1.96 £432
1.97 £600
1.98 £514
1.99 £115
2.00 £3,126
2.02 £158
2.04 £1,435
2.06 £485
2.08 £130
2.10 £3,219
2.12 £147
2.14 £504
2.16 £150
2.20 £1,690
2.22 £4 £18
2.26 £1,021
2.30 £231
2.32 £206
2.34 £16
2.35 £8
2.36 £5
2.37 £54
2.38 £4
2.39 £49
2.40 £175
2.41 £8
2.42 £152
2.44 £89
2.46 £53
2.48 £3,483
2.50 £5,425
2.52 £10,129
2.54 £7,197
2.55 £33
2.56 £4,599
2.57 £4
2.58 £904
2.59 £19
2.60 £7,724
2.61 £64
2.62 £1,561
2.64 £1,524
2.66 £463
2.68 £475
2.70 £1,181
2.72 £1,136
2.74 £2,132
2.76 £1,389
2.78 £736
2.80 £2,986
2.82 £2,708
2.83 £5
2.84 £1,604
2.86 £6,130
2.87 £24
2.88 £16,198 £4,561 £7,706
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 13:01
CAOBA IR odds win market

1.71 £34 £22
1.72 £579
1.73 £5 £98
1.74 £89
1.76 £42 £469
1.77 £61 £347
1.78 £198
1.80 £44 £478
1.81 £355
1.85 £8 £8
1.88 £6
1.90 £5 £144
1.93 £4
1.96 £2 £1
1.99 £5 £901
2.00 £178 £3,384
2.02 £29 £445
2.04 £398

2.06 £25 £2,257
2.08 £17 £888
2.10 £519
2.12 £1,043
2.14 £1,902
2.16 £23
2.20 £356
2.22 £5 £2,289
2.24 £14 £137
2.26 £151
2.28 £148
2.30 £140
2.32 £277
2.34 £97 £260
2.38 £435
2.40 £34
2.42 £92
2.44 £25 £60
2.48 £231
2.50 £63 £137
2.52 £36
2.54 £113
2.56 £85
2.60 £188
2.62 £160
2.66 £98
2.70 £110
2.80 £268
2.82 £5
2.88 £4 £28
2.90 £6 £883
2.94 £12
2.96 £467
2.98 £14
3.00 £27 £3,552
3.05 £169
3.10 £5 £196
3.15 £148
3.20 £57 £23
3.25 £58 £22
3.30 £30
3.35 £55 £27
3.40 £56 £12
3.50 £4 £179
3.55 £30
3.60 £6 £186
3.65 £8
3.70 £38
3.80 £38
3.85 £359 £81
3.90 £44
3.95 £4 £102
4.00 £1,057
4.10 £42 £733
4.20 £748
4.30 £970
4.40 £2 £861
4.50 £9 £1,302
4.60 £27 £1,370
4.70 £1,462
4.80 £8 £1,370
4.90 £1,559
5.00 £40 £6,067
5.10 £15 £6,807
5.20 £3,804
5.30 £18 £2,846
5.40 £1,306
5.50 £60 £429
5.60 £177
5.70 £273
5.80 £370
5.90 £646
6.00 £3,303
6.20 £7,973
6.23 £918 £7,336



BIT ANNOYED as AMBER BROOK was my initial selection in this race.......trust me to back in earlier race a NTD horse which was nowhere......then go against this one , mainly due to weight carrying ....won race the year before etc!
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 13:02
QUICK WILL brought down when going well .....
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 13:03
9.80 £2 £6
10.00 £19 £262
10.50 £718
11.00 £3,620
11.50 £1,716
11.61 £0
12.00 £2,596
12.08 £4
12.44 £220 £4,217

QUICK WILL iR odds
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 13:05
2.05 too open PAS
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 13:08
2.10 - Cruchain

COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1282.82 points
Available odds: 17 (betfair)
My odds: 12-1 (6.67%)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 20.74 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 13:12
2.15 Tasheba



COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1282.82 points
Available odds: 9 (betfair)
My odds: 6-1 (14.29 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 38.02 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 13:13
CRUCHAIN Betfair Starting Price: 18.07767
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 13:16
8.40 £2 £0
8.60 £26
8.80 £8
9.00 £11 £24
9.20 £13
9.40 £7 £93
9.60 £153
9.80 £49
10.00 £2 £75
10.50 £0 £95
11.00 £4 £388
11.50 £169
12.00 £471
12.50 £81
13.00 £221
13.50 £3 £193


CRUCHAIN IR odds
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 13:18
2.25 Oumeyade



COMBINED ATTEMPTS BANK 1224.06 points
Available odds: 12.50 (betfair)
My odds: 8-1 (11.11 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 36.40 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 07 Nov 09 13:20
TASHEEBA ...nowhere close IR odds



6.40 £12
6.60 £19
6.80 £128
7.00 £259
7.20 £551
7.40 £687
7.60 £2,106
7.80 £3,353
8.00 £3,099
8.20 £965
8.40 £2,011
8.60 £3,731
8.80 £4,314
9.00 £5,742
9.20 £2,448 £630 £6,251
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