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By:
The One That Got Away
When: 25 Aug 09 12:51
entirely upto you Carson, you lay at different odds, some low and some closer to 6.0.

Laying to an equal red would/ should keep your liabilities down.

How much red would you be thinking of laying too?

You could stake like Maria,ie,
between 2.0- 3.2 lay to 2% of your bank
between 3.3- 4.5 lay to 3% of your bank
between 4.6- 6.0 lay to 4% of your bank
between 6.0- 8.0 lay to 5% of your bank

etc etc
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 25 Aug 09 12:52
^^
The above wasnt exatly how Maria layed but is an example..
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 25 Aug 09 13:14
TOTGA, Probably be £400 or £500. During the 2nd half of last season did quite a lot of footy lays in a joint account with a mate. We were laying at £250 green & only started with £2k!! We easily had our money back & some profit, but eventually went bust. He is a proper "Poo or Bust" gambler and eventually our over staking meant we went bust when 3 Bundesliga games went against us in 1 night in early May. I am trying to find what will work best for me. With starting at £6k, if I get the start that my paper trail has had then laying at £500 red would be fine, but will I get that start??!!
By:
Tony Broke
When: 25 Aug 09 13:38
what i aim to do is try to be selective where possible..eg altho portsmouth were an outrageous price at arsenal u just knew they wouldnt win so the lay wouldve been worth it, mind u i suppose u couldve said that about man city at barca etc..yeah i was only a friendly i know so wouldnt have qualified but i just think certain teams crop up u cant see winning...after all this dundee utd will prob lose now
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 25 Aug 09 13:52
Tony, the only thing I would say about that is it is exactly what I thought about Burnley v United.
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 25 Aug 09 16:23
Bet 66. Lay Brommapajkarna at Hacken at 4.8 ????
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 25 Aug 09 17:35
Bet 67. Lay Southampton v Birmingham at 3.85 ????
Bet 68. Lay Salzburg at Haifa at 3.85 ????

Bet AD. Lay Pana at At Madrid at 8.0 ????
By:
fatboy1945
When: 25 Aug 09 18:04
Carson what does AD mean
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 25 Aug 09 18:48
fatboy- AD means that the bet is over 6.0, i think he has entered a few bets on here AA AB AC AD etc
By:
fatboy1945
When: 25 Aug 09 18:51
thanks totga
By:
Tony Broke
When: 25 Aug 09 20:43
bet 1 lay djurgardens @ 5.5 won
bet 2 lay norwich @ 5.3 won

bet 3 alloa v dundee utd @ 11 won
bet 4 forfar v dundee @ 8.6 won


w d on oyurs carson
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 26 Aug 09 06:06
Bet 66. Lay Brommapajkarna at Hacken at 4.8 WON 100 (3070)
Bet 67. Lay Southampton v Birmingham at 3.85 WON 100 (3170)
Bet 68. Lay Salzburg at Haifa at 3.85 WON 100 (3270)

Bet AD. Lay Pana at At Madrid at 8.0 WON (400)
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 26 Aug 09 06:10
Fatboy, TOTGA is correct, The A series of bets is a seperate series for anything over 6.0. I basically decided to do this after the Burnley v Man U disaster. It s really just for my own reference to keep a track of my success at the higher odds. So in summary any lay above odds of 6.0 after bet 51 (Burnley v Man U) will not be included in the main bets, but a seperate series.

Tony, well done on yours also. I will be watching your higher price lays with interest. Maybe I am just paranoid with them after taking a bullet on the 1st one.
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 26 Aug 09 07:49
FULL LIST

Bet 1. Lay Polonia Warsaw at Breda WON 100 (100)
Bet 2. Lay Cherno More v PSV WON 100 ( 200)
Bet 3. Lay Ahlen at St Pauli WON 100 (300)
Bet 4. Lay Sheff Utd at Boro WON 100 (400)
Bet 5. Lay Stuttgart at Wolfsburg WON 100 (500)
Bet 6. Lay Bristol City at Preston WON 100 (600)
Bet 7. Lay Barnsley at Sheff Wed WON 100 (700)
Bet 8. Lay Scunthorpe at Cardiff WON 100 (800)
Bet 9. Lay Newcastle at WBA WON 100 (900)
Bet 10. Lay Kladno v Mlada WON 100 (1000)
Bet 11. Lay Hansa Rostock at Bielfield WON 100 (1100)
Bet 12. Lay Darlington v Leeds WON 100 (1200)
Bet 13. Lay Grays at Histon WON 100 (1300)
Bet 14. Lay Hayes & Yeading v Stevenage WON 100 (1400)
Bet 15. Lay Bury v WBA WON 100 (1500)
Bet 16. Lay Scotland at Norway WON 100 (1600)
Bet 17. Lay Belarus v Croatia WON 100 (1700)
Bet 18. Lay USA at Mexico WON 100 (1800)
Bet 19. Lay Trolhatten at Vasby WON 100 (1900)
Bet 20. Lay Newcastle Jets at Central Coast WON 100 (2000)
Bet 21. Lay Arka Gdynia at Ruch Chorzow WON 100 (2100)
Bet 22. Lay FSV Frankfurt at Greher Furth WON 100 (2200)
Bet 23. Lay Fc Slovacko at Brno WON 100 (2300)
Bet 24. Lay Istres at Metz WON 100 (2400)
Bet 25. Lay Wigan at Villa LOST 540 (1860)
Bet 26. Lay Burnley at Stoke WON 100 (1960)
Bet 27. Lay Blackburn v Man City WON 100 (2060)
Bet 28. Lay Crystal Palace at Bristol City WON 100 (2160)
Bet 29. Lay Leicester at Ipswich WON 100 (2260)
Bet 30. Lay Watford at Sheff United WON 100 (2360)
Bet 31. Lay Carlsile at Millwall WON 100 (2460)
Bet 32. Lay Yeovil at Colchester WON 100 (2560)
Bet 33. Lay Forest Green at York WON 100 (2660)
Bet 34. Lay Werder Bremen at Bayern WON 100 (2760)
Bet 35. Lay St Etienne at Tolouse WON 100 (2860)
Bet 36. Lay Bochum at Schalke WON 100 (2960)
Bet 37. Lay Lille at Marseille WON 100 (3060)
Bet 38. Lay Banik Ostrava at Jablonec WON 100 (3160)
Bet 39. Lay BK Hacken at Malmo LOST 400 (2760)
Bet 40. Lay Setubal V Guimares WON 100 (2860)
Bet 41. Lay St Pauli at Aachen LOST 400 (2460)
Bet 42. Lay Leicester at Sheff Utd WON 100 (2560)
Bet 43. Lay Sheriff v Olimpiacos WON 100 (2660)
Bet 44. Lay Ebbsfleet at Stevenage WON 100 (2760)
Bet 45. Lay Barrow at Mansfield WON 100 (2860)
Bet 46. Lay Nigata v Osaka at 3.35 WON 100 (2960)
Bet 47. Lay FC Nordsj at AaB at 5.0 WON 100 (3060)
Bet 48. Lay Hull v Tottenham at 4.2 WON 100 (3160)
Bet 49. Lay Anderlecht at Lyon at 7.6 WON 100 (3260)
Bet 50. Lay Sheff Wed at Newcastle at 6.0 WON 100 (3360)
Bet 51. Lay Burnley v Man Utd at 11.0 LOST 1000 (2360)
Bet 52. Lay Adelaide v Goldcoast at 2.78 WON 100 (2460)
Bet 53. Lay Uni Craiova at Brasov at 4.1 WON 100 (2560)
Bet 54. Lay Koblenz at Dusseldorf at 3.9 WON 100 (2660)
Bet 55. Lay Fredrikstad v Rosenberg at 4.2 WON 100 (2760)
Bet 56. Lay Nimes at Dijon at 6 WON 100 (2860)
Bet 57. Lay Istres at Nantes at 6 WON 100 (2960)
Bet 58. Blackburn at Sunderland (3.85) WON 100 (3060)
Bet 59. Scunthorpe at Sheff Wed (4.8) WON (3160)
Bet 60. Colchester at MK Dons (3.6) WON 100 (3260)
Bet 61. Brentford at Sothampton (3.8) WON 100 (3360)
Bet 62. Burnley v Everton (3.8) LOST 280 (3080)
Bet 63. Lay Brno at ostrava at 3.8 WON 100 (3180)
Bet 64. Lay Karlsruhe at 1860 Munich at 4.1 LOST 310 (2870)
Bet 65. Lay Bastia at Metz at 6.0 WON 100 (2970)
Bet 66. Lay Brommapajkarna at Hacken at 4.8 WON 100 (3070)
Bet 67. Lay Southampton v Birmingham at 3.85 WON 100 (3170)
Bet 68. Lay Salzburg at Haifa at 3.85 WON 100 (3270)

Bet AA. Wigan v Man U (7.4) WON 100 (100)
Bet AB. Doncaster at Boro (7.6) WON 100 (200)
Bet AC. Fulham v Chelsea (7.6) WON 100 (300)
Bet AD. Lay Pana at At Madrid at 8.0 WON (400)
By:
Sligo
When: 26 Aug 09 12:00
Hi Carson. I have been doing this since end of July but with higher parameters. I generally do not lay teams playing at home and my lays are generally over the 6 more often closer to 12.

Obviously a much higher strike rate is required. To date I have had two major setbacks being a lay of Liverpool v Villa and a stupid lay in a Brazilian Division Two game which was really a bet for bets sake.

My figures are as follows:

August 09 - Laying Teams to 10% of Bank High- do not reduce liability after a loss
Bank 1297.16
Net Withdrawals Nil
Profit 297.16
Next Bet Liability: 140
Bets Pending:

My lays last night were Pompey and Athletico Goainese.

Hope you don't mind if I join in posting on here.
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 26 Aug 09 12:08
Welcome aboard Sligo, the more the merrier. Good Luck with your future lays. I am presuming your Anfield disaster was actually a lay of Villa though?? Interested to see how you fair with the higher price stuff as it is an area that I am debating over how involved I shall get. As for the bet for bets sake, it really is the scourge of all us Betting God Wannabes, I really think posting my selections on here prior to the game is helping me reduce these such bets. Good luck with what you do & I look forward to your input/selections.
By:
Sligo
When: 26 Aug 09 12:50
Sorry Carson.

Yeah my lays in all the cases I mentioned above were the away sides in fixtures so lays were actually Villa, Hereford and America RN.
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 26 Aug 09 12:56
Sligo, no worries. How many lays have you done?
By:
Tony Broke
When: 26 Aug 09 13:06
bet 1 lay djurgardens @ 5.5 won
bet 2 lay norwich @ 5.3 won

bet 3 alloa v dundee utd @ 11 won
bet 4 forfar v dundee @ 8.6 won

bet 5 doncaster 8.6
bet 6 rotherham @ 9.8

brechin are arou d 16 at hibs but even I will leave that one alone!
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 26 Aug 09 13:32
Good Luck Tony, so far so good for you!!
By:
Sligo
When: 26 Aug 09 13:38
Carson. Only being keeping a running total but guess it's between 35-40.
By:
Tony Broke
When: 26 Aug 09 13:47
i actually have a feeling spurs are gonna be in for a difficult night tho theire class should hopefully prevail.
By:
Sligo
When: 26 Aug 09 15:21
Ones I was looking at:

Huddersfield
Brechin (Too High!)
Rotherham
Sporting

Will probably wait for team news before finally deciding.

Maybe Columbus Crew later.
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 26 Aug 09 15:23
Sligo, Sporting at Fiorentina is more than likely going to be in my plays. I could not touch a leage cup game till I have some fairly solid team news. Nearly got caught with my own team, Birmingham, yesterday.
By:
Tony Broke
When: 26 Aug 09 15:29
i hate games like fiorentina sporting..both unpredictable, sporting maybe weaker but i feel not worth a lay as u just dont know..
Altho fior may well win, i would find this game too risky

having said that, theyll prob wn 5-0, if italian teams ever win 5-0...
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 26 Aug 09 18:08
Bet 69. Lay Sporting at Fiorentina at 5.8
Bet 70. Lay Blackpool v Wigan at 3.85
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 26 Aug 09 18:11
Bet AE. Lay Doncaster v Spurs at 8.8
Bet AF. Lay Huddersfield at Newcsatle at 6.8
By:
Sligo
When: 26 Aug 09 18:23
Laid Huddersfield at 6.4
Laid Rotherham at 8.6

Each to a liability of €140.

Newcastle and West Brom both named decent teams imo for this.
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 26 Aug 09 19:06
Well, thanks to Senor Martinez it looks like my night is all about damage limitation after 20mins!!
By:
johnizere
When: 26 Aug 09 19:59
WBA 2-1
there's hope yet sligo :)
By:
johnizere
When: 26 Aug 09 20:00
Fiorentina 1-1.. there is a god after all for ya :D
now I need them to go on and win it!
By:
Sligo
When: 26 Aug 09 20:01
2-2 West Brom now. Rollercoaster Stuff!
By:
johnizere
When: 26 Aug 09 20:19
3-3 Newcastle now!
By:
Sligo
When: 26 Aug 09 20:42
Both lays in after a sweat! :-)
By:
Carson Yeung
When: 26 Aug 09 20:44
Well Done, Sligo & Tony. Maybe theres mileage in the +6s afterall!!
By:
johnizere
When: 26 Aug 09 20:49
take a deep breath and relax, sligo :D
By:
Sligo
When: 26 Aug 09 20:50
Cheers John. Out of Jail tonight alright and no doubt. :-)

Now for tonights games!
By:
Sligo
When: 26 Aug 09 20:52
August 09 - Laying Teams to 10% of Bank High- do not reduce liability after a loss
Bank 1339.56
Net Withdrawals Nil
Profit 339.56
Next Bet Liability: 140
Bets Pending:
By:
Tony Broke
When: 26 Aug 09 20:59
hard luck on the blackpool lay but the price wasnt too bad and u were still ahead werent u on the night?
anyway my rotherham lay was silly even tho it won as i shouldve waited for team news..wba had quite a few changes and it couldve went wrong.
By:
Tony Broke
When: 26 Aug 09 21:00
bet 1 lay djurgardens @ 5.5 won
bet 2 lay norwich @ 5.3 won

bet 3 alloa v dundee utd @ 11 won
bet 4 forfar v dundee @ 8.6 won

bet 5 doncaster 8.6 won
bet 6 rotherham 9.8 won
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