Tuchel Out!

Surely he could have picked a better squad than this,defence looks decidedly shaky

TTT

Would of been better off with Mike Bassett

POSTPONED TILL SUNDAY

A German Gareth Southgate

Bring back Big Sam, or any English man with a positive attitude

TODGERS OUT

Big Sam has never had a really talented team to manage Reg - he would have got the best out of England at this tournament i reckon and we would have not lost from a winning position like that under him.

Dixie, exactly, I was being serious

Big SAM undefeated Enland Manager . BRING HIM ON

I know Reg, i was just agreeing with you mate

I would have been quite happy for him to have stayed at EFC after he pulled us clear from the bottom three but the fans made it known they wanted a more sexy manager I'm sure some of our issues after that would not have happened with him in charge.

Tommy out , Todgers Out , gonads out  OUT OUT OUT

Joe Hart Back as Center Forward , fire balls at his Head

Here he is

Tuchel saying...no regrets...
I shouldn't think so, getting 5 million plus a year for about 12 games, nice work if you can get it
Didn't blame himself for changes, no surprise

Agent Tuchel with  a little grin in that interview, job done ?

Anyone can lose a football match but the manner in which England lost to Argentina was simply unacceptable.

Tuchel must be sacked.

Reminds me of Moyes, go one up then defend for your lives (I know Dixie wont agree with me). That works sometimes against average sides but once the Argies were all over us he should have changed tactics as it was just a case of when not if they scored then of course no plan B once we went behind.

worst part was wasting the last seven mins launching it long to a fckin center half!

he was brought in to improve on what Southgate did and for those moments like last night - he failed

we had that great right back Konsa trying to put crosses in at the end


Poor Declan was obviously knackered after his illness and was a shadow of himself but we will leave Eze and Mainoo on the bench and bring O Reilly on

what was the point of having Kane on after the goal
Saka surely must have been crocked not to get on

See if Pep is interested Tuchel isnt that good and is wrong for England

There needs to be a full public inquiry.

Why were Mainoo, Toney etc. taken if they were never going to be used?

Why was Rice ill?

Why on earth did Tuchel think we could defend so deep for 20+ minutes?

Last night was a complete shambles.

Mainoo, Toney etc. made the coffee for Henderson who made the coffee for everyone else.

Lets face it we had a pretty easy group and beat the mighty Mexico and Norway just about

The first big test and he fails
Both Eze and Mainoos game is linking play, receiving and keeping the ball which we needed last night

Dan Burn for Gordon !!

Sorry Burn for James and Konsa for Gordon

You don't put Mainoo on to defend a lead. Ultimately I think playing in Miami after Mex caught up with the players and they were knackered the last half hour.

I don't think the gameplan was to defend so deep for half an hour. That was caused by Arg pushing men forward and England back plus fatigue imo. He went ultra defensive on 82 mins only, brought Konsa on for Gordon and played a back 5 on 72 mins as Gordon was pushed back so far he was playing as a defender anyway.

You have to look at Pickford for the first goal and the massive amount of space in the Arg right channel just outside the box while playing 5-4-1 and everyone back to defend a corner (which wasn't swung into the box). Where were the players who should have been in that space? That is Bellingham's space but he may have been defending the other side of the box for the corner.

For the second goal Spence gets a kick, possibly a foul, and immediately stops defending and starts theatrics. You can't do that in a WC SF injury time. WTF was he doing?

You can't just blame the manager here. He is not the only one who f'd up.

Guardiola is not the right fit, he can sign players at club level who are technically brilliant from the keeper to the number 9, i.e. players who pass, move and turn in very quick time and in very tight spaces, players who constantly shift position to make themselves available to a teammate when they receive the ball, the triangles, England doesn't have that make up and we can't sign players for it. Our two best technical players are Phil Foden and Cole Palmer, Pep had Foden benched all season long bar a brief spell and made little effort to keep Palmer, if he doesn't rate our two best technical players what hope have the rest of the team got ?

We are a power play team, that's the characteristics of England, two quick wingers on either side, Gordon/Rashford and Saka/Madueke, full backs who like to bomb on and no true defensive midfielder who likes to do the dirty work. The anomaly to that is Kane who thinks he's some kind of Quarterback, he fails to show up in every single big game he's ever played bar a Micky Mouse German Cup final.

Pep has ruined English football, his greatest achievement was not all the trophies he won playing out from the back, it was convincing everyone else they could play out from the back with far inferior players, he must have gone home every week laughing his head off after facing and walloping yet another pale imitation of his side. Only Klopps full throttle, high octane style and Arteta's Rugby tactics stopped him and you just know he has a begrudging respect for that despite patting other managers on the back for playing pretty football.

He stole the soul of the English game by taking us away from the entertaining, attacking football we all knew, which may have been less sophisticated but was far more enjoyable, now the league is full up of copy cat continental managers boring us to tears with a possession based game, the fans come to the stadium with all the energy but it's quickly sapped out of them as they're forced to watch sideways and backwards football.

I said at the time we should have tried to get Klopp, do you think he would have parked the bus, played 5 at the back and bring on 3 defenders defending a lead for half an hour with only 12% possession from goal til end of game with him in charge? No, he'd have gone for the juggler, worst thing was Tuchel lying, not admitting his mistake, saying he had no regrets, he's only honest when it suits him, need to get rid of this mug as soon as possible, taken the FA and the country for a ride.



Kind Regards.

think a very poor Onion side did a job on England, all that pressing nonsense for zero SOT and they were on their backs by the end.

thats the point Southgate failed to defend leads - we were supposed to be getting a tactically astute coach that didnt just park the bus when we go 1-0 up

Mainoo keeps the ball and links play so does Eze. Even winning free kicks alleviates pressure

Look at Spain last night 1-0 up and not a thought about parking the bus

But the poor players must have been so tired

I blame the manager for the ridiculous substitutions last night, trying to park the bus, and keeping a sick Rice on the pitch too long thereby losing the midfield

OK Mes good points made

I thought the England players looked a bit lethargic prior to and after scoring. I think they were showing symptoms of fatigue after their arduous games against Mexico (altitude) and Norway (heat). England also had 4 days less to recover (England played on 11th / Argentina played on 7th) from their 1/4-final.

Nevertheless, Tuchel made the subs. As such, he'd have to shoulder some of the blame. And, I'd back England for Euro 2028.

that's not true, England played Norway and Argentina played the Swiss on the same day.

putting out a lot of fires today, mes. None of it matters, you lost...again!

TT hiding in his bunker like Peter Sandrovitch used to and a former nutter who tried to rule the World.

We were the moral victors Linke, we committed less fouls

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I thought the England players looked a bit lethargic prior to and after scoring. I think they were showing symptoms of fatigue after their arduous games against Mexico (altitude) and Norway (heat). England also had 4 days less to recover (England played on 11th / Argentina played on 7th) from their 1/4-final.


Argentina played on both the 7th AND the 11th imp , didn't seem to affect them

I mentioned this before the tournament that england started with a disadvantage being in the last group so they had to play their possible 8 games in 6 less days then the 1st group
After beating croatia i would have played the 2nd choice players against ghana and panama instead of the same players being run into the ground , a squad of 26 and some players hardly played
mainoo 0 minutes , watkins toney 6 minutes , kane might not have liked it but its a team game .

Mr SM - Argentina also started with the same "disadvantage" then as they played their first game on the same day as England did.

And they are in the final.

I'd give him another tournament... Who else is there?

Good point about argentina , it was a general point , a squad of 26 and watkins and toney play 6 minutes , maybe they are scared to rest kane in case they dont win , if you cant beat panama with a 2nd england eleven then you might as well go home .

After Ghana and Panama ‘its difficult to break down these teams who just want to park the bus’

After Argentina ‘its difficult to park the bus against these teams who just want to attack’

we go through this every time. i could see it backfiring if he switched the squad around but i did think the same about the gaps between games and the mexico trip was tough, followed ny the miami heat. But we weren't that convincing against congo or ghana before all that anyway. we just weren't good enough and got a bit lucky here and there, which was papering over the problems and then eventually we got found out.

the defensive substitutions didn't work and that's on him but we were getting pushed back for a while before he did them. it was very uncomfortable viewing

Yes its all ifs and buts , in an ideal world england could have taken players off early in the knock outs but they were only ahead by the odd goal in the first 3 games , maybe a fresher england could have gone 3 or 4 up against congo and rested players then .

If you go to a tourny with a squad you should have every confidence that each and every one of them can do a job and play a full part.If you dont then your never gonna win anything.

Sorry, my mistake. England and Argentina played on the same day prior to the 1/2-final. I wonder why England looked lethargic prior to and after the goal against Argentina. I think the altitude and heat affected the England team more than Argentina; Bellingham alluded to that post their victory over Norway in the heat of Miami.

It was very difficult to watch England being pummelled. It was like watching a boxer repeatedly being knocked down until the referee stopped the fight.

Thomas Tuchel blamed the "DNA" of English football for the national team's 2-1 World Cup semi-final defeat to Argentina

Tell him to sling his Hook ,who does he think he is ?

He called it Wrong , This man is a Shyster , shift him

never mind tuchel out. should never have come in. an absolute chancer.

The DNA of our team originates from m around the World , dreadful statement

is he known as Doctor Tuchel in the homeland ?

I don't see how he can go on.

A decent manager would have put pressure on the Referee by repeatedly hoping he was strong enough to handle Argentina's antics.

A decent manager's ar**hole wouldn't have gone Full Gareth Southgate when we took the lead.

He is a busted flush. The fans know it and so do the players.

He means the tendency to fall further and further back when ahead against top sides like Croatia 2018, Italy 2021 and Arg 2026. He is right, it is an English thing and there is no way he instructed his players to play like they did after 1-0. His subs and tactics were probably influenced by it too.

What is the point in replacing attackers like for like when you can't string 2 passes together. Between the England goal and the equaliser England attempted 8 passes and were successful with 2 - a pass from Pickford to Stones and a pass from Stones to Pickford.

Blaming the manager for it all is idiotic. The players were more at fault and even with ultra defensive tactics you can point to major, basic individual errors for both goals - more at fault than the manager.

The players completely shát the bed. Kane did his usual dropping into midfield and going hiding, which only encourages the opposition to push up even more.

How many players will speak up for Tuchel?

What do you think Bellingham is going to say when he's interviewed?

The FA have to listen to him because he is the future of England. What would an England team be without Bellingham?

lurka just look at the substitutions.

What is the point in replacing attackers like for like when you can't string 2 passes together.

Counterattack

I'll give Tuchel his due; he did bring on Rashford and Toney with 3 minutes of injury time left.

This mug had 18 months to drill it into the players that they dare not regressed when taking the lead, he literally highlighted in the media several times before the World Cup the exact problems in Euro 2024 and before, the onus is on him, he simply bottled in the big moment with the decisions he made. His job should also have included drumming it in to the players if they did regress and sit deep when ahead he'll take off those players or they wont play the next game or both, if that was ever the real issue. The real issue was his decision making and substitutes, he literally invited Argentina onto the England team by giving up the middle of the park and playing 5 at the back which also clearly sends out a message to the team that 'we need to defend here'.

If you invite wave after wave of attack - what do you think it going to happen? eventually the tired players will end up making basic tired mistakes, England are not the best passing team but bring on fresh legs, bring on attackers and attempt to get the ball as far away from our goal as possible, but his personnel changes simply did not allow for that.

He parked the bus, then when 2-1 down, he threw in a Hail Mary with 180 seconds left on the clock by bringing in two forwards.

He was a rabbit in the headlights at the crucial moment and then  he tried to shift blame onto the players.

FA wont sack him, but they will in 2 years time when he fails us again.

Kind Regards.

mes, Tuchel is a busted flush and the only reason he hasn't been sacked already is the FA just gave him a new mega contract.

But I think the pressure from fans and players will prove too much for him.

What was the problem with the German DNA against Paraguay?

Tuchel has made nothing but comments blaming every one but himself

Norway we were not great but both teams put a Shift in , both were wrecked

is there anyone on here ,England Supporter ,  who wants him as manager ?

After the latest Comment what.s going to happen tomorrow Night   REBELLION

Even Trump has joined in criticising Tuchel!
He spoke of his friend Harry(Kane) who he once played golf with
Saying he couldn't understand why you put a great attacker in defence
But then again, he said, " what do I know about soccer?"

Or anything else?

Hindsight, is great , isn't it ?
What if, at 1-0 against auntie tina, we had gone at them full on, guns blazing, and lost ?
What if, what if?
That second goal woke England up, and, I thought, they did actually threaten, but with only ten minutes on the clock, well ...

A spirited , gung-ho manager, would be worth a shot, but who would dare ?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't
And maybe, the play-safe mentality really IS so deeply ingrained the English psyche that we are just born losers.
Surely in friendlies, they could give it ago, and to hell it.

There's a huge variation between gung ho and surrender

A better manager would have attempted to find it.

I've seen Tuchel in action and he's usually out, sorting stuff.

TV cameras didn't show us, so maybe he was trying to change it, but goalie should have been down, feigning leg injury before the equaliser and strong messages sent.

"Gung-ho" a poor choice of words I think.
Point taken yhtl.

why is he covering up his waistcoat with a shirt?

Incredible Trumpton is now a critic of champions league winning manager and taken England to their closest ever chance of making WC final since 1966.
America are surely taking the urine out the rest of world with this crackpot.

Trump should have been on phone to R&A getting Bryson Dechambeau's 2 shot penalty overturned rather than waffling on about soccerball

Robson Venables Southgate , Decent Managers didn't go about insulting the team

All top managers insulted players right into their face and some swear words used, players can answer back, in the main they usually know it’s justified, they are quite happy to take the praise when you are doing ok

What telling them its in their DNA ? Disgusting Comment  , He is not wanted by the Majority of supporters

He will have lost the players Respect , Sadly they sorted a large contract For him

Shift him ,are your Team  looking for a Manager perhaps you could have him ,We don't want him END OF

"All top managers insulted players right into their face" ,Indeed but

Did they go public with their comments basically covering their own faults ..

All he had to say was we were Close to WC Final

perhaps I made the Wrong Call , Not Tommy , its everyone else fault

I didn’t read what he has said about DNA to be honest not sure that is clever thing to say, but I don’t believe the manager is to blame for losing late on WC semi final.
He could have been more offensive but if that had not worked he would have been blamed, if players can’t keep ball in WC semi final you are going to be very lucky to win it, and ultimately England’s luck run out.

I think England done ok, there migh have been over top expectations because they always go mad, which is a good thing in many ways fans getting excited, but the players were not good enough.

Most possessions won in the defensive third by an outfield player for England at the 2026 World Cup:

◉ 17 - Elliot Anderson
◎ 13 - Marc Guéhi
◎ 12 - Jude Bellingham
◎ 11 - Harry Kane
◎ 10 - Declan Rice

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Not trying to be cheeky but can you summarise what that post means because I seriously no idea what you are trying to say relevant to the match v Argentina and how it was lost.

It's all of England games, and number of balls won in back 3rd of the pitch.

Maybe it's skewed by defenders not playing
all games, but you'd expect defenders and
defensive midfield to be high up the list.

Small data sets, 6 games, can throw odd results, but...

Thomas means well.

Der Feind im Inneren

You would expect your midfielders to be highest there because that means they are not really getting at you.
Kane dropped deep because he can’t run beyond that’s just a limitation of his ability but also a positive thing that he wanted to help his teammates.
If for example England played Ireland or Scotland Kane’s stats would be different he’d be up park all the time.
We know Mexico, Norway, and Argentina passed England off the park, they did have man sent off in one of they matches, which has to be taken into consideration.
But nobody in any football match sets out to get passed off the park that’s just inferior ability from players,  not coaches fault he only has them for a few weeks, he never reared them or works with them on a daily basis throughout the year.

But they did get at us, that's the thing

Mexico, Argentina, Croatia

I’ll be amazed if Tuchel still has the dressing room and they put in a strong performance tonight. First he slated them after the Norway game, then he switched the blame from his cowardice against Argentina to English DNA. I have more concerns about German DNA, what with their proclivity to start world wars and gas truckloads of jews.

Nothing match tonight I think players would rather be home, maybe play lads who don’t have many caps. Tuchel never started any wars or gassed anybody

He is right about the DNA. The same thing happened against Italy and Croatia under Southgate, England couldn't string two passes together and you could see the equaliser coming for 15 minutes before it arrived. Southgate didn't make any changes in those games until after the equalisers. We all thought it was down to him and his tactics but it turns out it wasn't.

Tuchel had words with the players at the water break and changed it to a back 5. 10 mins later he had to change it again. There is no way he told his players to defend deep and not try to keep the ball or to leave Enzo and Messi in acres for both goals while having 11 men behind the ball. I think the players were badly fatigued after Mex and Miami but it's not an excuse for completely bottling it like they did.

It's happened under 2 managers in a row now so it's not the manager. I'd say they didn't carry out any of Tuchel's instructions at the water break and that he couldn't believe what he was seeing.

Tuchel is on dodgy ground bringing up the topic of nationalistic DNA, given Germany's eugenics experiments in concentration camps, what with them supposedly being the master race and all.

The FA might want to keep him but the players will get rid of him.

He might get rid of the players, before that happens.

The players can’t get rid of international manager

The England men players have a history of underachieving and lacking backbone. They do not have the fortitude or the will to be competitive at the highest level. Their mental grit is inferior to most sportsmen in their sport.

get this mug out he is useless

F  I  L  T  H

It was pretty obvious the fresh legs of the England players were giving way in the 2nd half. Only Rice and Spence had managed to accustom. The fresh legs of Bellingham, Anderson and James allowed England to wrest back control of the game from France.

Spence was superb. He got England a penalty which was converted by Saka; Bellingham ran past a few tired French players to seal victory for England.

If one player summed up the issues with the English game its Djed Spence. He's an athlete. Awful technically/tactically.

The "Amazing" tackle in the Argie game was a pile of manure. No vaguely decent defender would put himself in a position to have to make a tackle like that.

They conceded 12 goals in 8 games and the "Amazing" Spence played a major factor in alot of those goals.

AWFUL defender. The fact Spurs want him gone says everything and no other major English club want a sniff of him.

You have to listen to their mug fans harping on about how unlucky they were or how Tuchel cost them LOL

Spence played ok, however would agree with Racingqueen, some of the quotes about his play are over the top.

If the Swiss had beaten Argentina which until the sending off looked on the cards, England could have reached a world cup final and not played a single top 10 ranked team. The whole seeding has **** the game to the bigger countries. It only confirms how diabolical Italian football has gone.

You have to listen to their mug fans harping on about how unlucky they were or how Tuchel cost them LOL

If you think that Tucccks made good subs that night or even last night then well the , “LOL” sums up that statement.

Even yesterday he brings on Wally and plays him out of postion on the left wing, like he’s done others elsewhere. He quickly gave the ball away and they scored.

That Sakka wasn’t given a kick or Gashford against the Argies says he’s an idiot.

Last night they being on multiple subs as the Argies had done, what’s he do?

Sit with pen and paper!

Tommy Tanker 101

He picked John Stones for this tournament after he had BARELY kicked a ball this season, Harry Maguire who's not the messiah, but was in far better form and match fitness whilst being an asset the other end of the pitch for Corners, was left at home, picked Madueke over Bowen and I say that as an Arsenal fan, Madueke is God-like awful, Bowen much better at stretching defender, one on ones and linking play, Madueke an absolutely limited, 1 dimensional winger who's only asset seems to be pace and the occasional good cross. Saka doesn't get a kick v Argentina whilst apparently being fit. Leaves Kane when he does nothing and so drops deep, again, to get touches of the ball and for everyone to pat him on the back afterwards about how dynamic a player he is, get your fat backside up front you mug you are a forward, went missing in yet another game.

Tuchel actually said 'MAYBE it's the DNA', he didn't even have the gumption to go all the way and say it definitely is the DNA, he tried to muddy the waters instead to confuse people deflect attention away from his poor choices.

Nearly all our players play for continental, possession based managers in teams that do not sit deep, so this DNA stuff is bollox anyway. Just a smokescreen.

He also had 18 months working with these players, 18 months to drum it into them what is expected in pressure moments, what not to do when a goal up, so he brings on a boat load of defenders to a) send out the subliminal message this is what we need to do, defend, defend, defend and b) it invites wave after wave after wave of pressure til eventually our players under pressure end up making basic tired mistakes, Messi moving out wide to find space where there was acres as we'd stuffed the central defence area with, leaving ol' Lionel with acres of space having a field day against a knackered Spence.

He will get another tournament, but Klopp is with Germany now, Zidane with France who won 3 Champions Leagues in a row with Real Madrid, a much harder knock out tournament to win, getting to that final even with home advantage will be difficult, I'd rather they bring in Howe but wont happen til after then. In the meantime this mug needs to learn from how own mistakes even if he hasn't got the balls to admit them in public.



Kind Regards.

I agree when Tuchel mentioned the dna of England players. How many talented England sportsmen win at the sport? England players do not have the grit or the hunger to win eg Tennis, unlike the players from some of the former Russia enclaves. They have been producing tennis (Czech Rep) and football winner (Croatia) despite not having the same superior facilities as the UK or England.

And, watching England at football has always been stressful. Mr Southgate had the best players yet lost to France in The Euro final. Mr Southgate was given the managerial reign for nearly eight long years yet the same disappointment on a regular basis despite gifted favourable passages in tournament.

Mr Southgate would have been sacked if managing any other European country. Mr Southgate has yet to manage a football side since his resignation in 2024.

Lewis Hamilton greatest ever F1 driver, Llando Norris won the title last year, Golf plenty of major winners, England youth teams winning tournaments in the last few years, bucket load of Gold medals at every summer Olympics. Rugby World Cup win etc etc.

Tennis is different because it's badly run, LTA have an unwritten policy to recruit middle class children too posh to push when the going gets tough, listen to 95% of them speak, very plummy voiced, wealthy backgrounds.

English footballers have won untold Champions League medals and league titles, so that analysi that English sportsmen don't win  is just rubbish.

I don't think that's what he means by dna.

I think he means when England players get together and into a winning position in big games as an
England team they go into overly defensive mode, and that's the dna he needs to teach them to overcome.

The manger who said, “let’s not lose trying to be positive our way”

Or something similar went back on that.

He left tired players out of position on the field vs 4 subs from the other.

He’s a runt.

Even yesterday France being on 4 we 1 Watkins for Rashford!

If you look t it it’s sabotage or just bd decisions two matches over!

Bellingham seemed to be dying something to the bench at that water break.

Some very odd substitutions, timing and manpower.

Certainly didn't work in semi, and very late in yesterday's game, but just in nick of time.