PROSTRATE CANCER

seen this fred other day..tonite been to see a lose friend of mine who was diagnosed with prostate cancer 10mth ago..had to have his removed,he's ok at the moment since and doing ok,he was telling me earlier a friend of his in Australia told him people saying they had great results with cancer treatment over there using Fenbendazole and Ivermectin tablets...his psa blood readings had risen slightly last yr or so,consultant wasnt overly concerned though..he's been taking these tablets for a few mth now..his levels were 3.6 b4 operation 0.006 after op then gradually rose to 0.18 before ivermectin now gone down to 0.3..anyone else heard or read about this treatment? just googled it and this showed up

Lack of Human Evidence: Currently, there is no high-quality, clinical trial evidence in humans that confirms these drugs can cure cancer.
Risks: Relying on these, rather than conventional treatments, can be dangerous.
Expert Advice: Experts advise against self-medication with these drugs for cancer and recommend using them only under strict medical supervision.

close friend of mine*

Danny Kelly reveals cancer diagnosis and urges others to get checked.. talkSPORT host Danny Kelly (69) will step away from broadcasting after revealing that he has been diagnosed with throat cancer.

I had a colonoscopy yesterday

Done by a doctor in training

One of the joys of being old!

I suspect you didn't have a colonoscopy Norbert... No offence.

swap coffee for green tea great for prostate health a Dr told me once

speedy recovery to the dragon

I had a sigmoidoscopy a few years back, that was a sight surrounded by three nurses with your aris hanging out whilst the doctor pauses for a moment to allow you to f8art out all the air he's just pumped you up with, I'd take that over an endoscopy any day though, horrendous, 15 minutes of constant urging as the camera hits the gag reflex spot in your throat

Digital Rectal Exam.. Is where the doctor sticks a lubricated finger up your aris..

Colonoscopy.. is a common, 30-to-45-minute diagnostic procedure where a gastroenterologist uses a long, flexible camera-tipped tube (colonoscope) to examine the entire large intestine.

Also only once had an endoscopy - or at least would have done, if I'd been able to - gagged so bad they thought I was going to have a heart attack. So they went for x-ray instead as method!

Never had colonoscopy, but I think I'd actually prefer that, even though a tad embarrasing.

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absolutely

On a Colonoscopy, they medicate you the night before to clear your system, sounds ok but is very disturbing.. Starts with the shts! then you sht a lot more... when you think you're empty, you sht some more and more... then when you've convinced yourself you're definitely empty.. You sht some more... Hopefully you make it to the lav every time.. But I bet you don't!.. After the procedure is done, you'll still be randomly shtting yourself for hours!.. Apart from that, It's not too bad.

If I have an endoscopy again they'll have to put me out which was an option but it meant staying in longer...but so be it after experiencing it whilst awake!!!

Incidentally dragon, I'll be cheering Liverpool on for you for the remainder of the season

Best wishes.

Only this season though...there are limits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvrzUngEQRw

Billy Connolly had one...

Had an endoscopy and went for the drugs. I saw the camera about to go into my mouth and the next thing I knew, I woke up in a bed. Apparently you're not asleep at all, but I didn't recall any of it. By the time I woke (iirc) it was only about 15 minutes later, give or take. I felt fine after that.

As for the colonoscopy, I woke (or was aware) midway through and did not like it at all. Panicked and was held down by several doctors until again, I woke up in bed recalling little more. Sadly I wasn't "clean" enough and they had to do it again. I woke again, freaked out and it was aborted.

Ended up having a barium meal instead.

Emitdeb I know what examination I had.

Had a few endoscopes down my throat. Normally they give me liquid Valium so I know little about it all.

SirNorbertClarke
Emitdeb I know what examination I had.

eh?  so it was a colonoscopy?

Had one 20 ft of lead with a camera on it ,you lay down and watch it all in colour on TV

Always with 5 or 6 student nurses watching...


Enema just before was interesting....

operation schedulded for tuesday 31st march.

i will keep u posted on how it goes

Best of luck mate. Hope it goes well.

Good luck TD

All the best The Dragon.

Had about 6 endoscopies Numb the throat with spray ,  they dont bother me at all once they get past the choke point ,  just feels strange the camera moving about inside

As for the Colonoscopy , Between sitting on the pot for hours the Night before and the procedure itself  , dreadful, I inhaled the nitrous oxide that helped

G Luck TD hope all goes well for you ..

I had bladder cancer 8 Year Back I was very Lucky they caught it early managed to scraped it off Bladder Lining, Bag of Chemo Then put in , which you gradually 

Pee out . it never came back despite being told it probably would , thats another Caper the cystoscopy  Had to have one done every 6 Then 12 months

I used to hate going for them

The Old Nanny, was that called BCG treatment you had as I've been diagnosed with Bladder Cancer and had some tests last week to find out if it was Non Muscle Invasive and if that's correct I will have the same as you.

Good luck with your treatment Dragon

Mine Treatment was  called Mitomycin Alice,  I only had one treatment While they done the Op , I believe the same happens with BCG  , If needed you have follow ups  , I only had the one treatment as there was no signs of a

Return , There is a Bladder Cancer facebook Group , it is Very good  if you would like the link let me know , there is not much they do not know , The most helpful lovely people I ever met on line

sadly new folks Join every week or so , Great advice and being very worried  when I joined ,It really Helped to be among folks with the Same issues . G luck alice

Had annual bloods yesterday (obscure reasons)-me..' Could you take enough for my PSA please ...' Reply - ' its not down here ' .....me- ' well have been 20 years on BPH meds and you have done it for the last 5 years '. Nurse ..' Ok will do , would you like a flu Vaccination ? ' .........Kin priorities and my answer nearly began with F .

thanks guys - fingers crossed -pre op today

Good luck Dragon, try to keep positive mate.

Best wishes Dragon.

I sent you a PM Alice  G luck

All the best dragon hope all goes well

Great to see all the support for you on here TD - like everyone else hope all goes well and keep us all posted when you feel up to it

Best wishes Dragon

thanks guys and appreciated. pre -op was fine so all systems go for op on tuesday

Good luck to you Dragon.

thanks duffy - appreciated m8

Best wishes Dragon.

bcc

Best of British for Tuesday mate.

cheers SB- will keep u updated m8

Been following this thread quietly on my now very infrequent visits to the forum & Betfair. Prostate cancer is one of the most treatable cancers & is the most common in men. If a man lives long enough he will develop prostate problems- it's the nature of the anatomy. In the olden days, men died of "stricture" when an enlarged prostate blocked off urinary flow & there was no treatment. I myself  developed benign enlargement of the prostate. One day I woke up & couldn't pee. Just want to wish you good luck for Tuesday, Dragon, & many more years of posting on the forums.

thanks slicer and much appreciated m8

Good luck, & wishing you a speedy recovery.

Wishing you well The Dragon

Heres hoping your recovery provides you with a pain free future

P Day!

Hope all does well TD

Good luck today Dragon , got my PSA result yesterday -good .

hi all unfortunatley the surgery did not go to plan. they could not remove the prostrate due to an internal hernia and tissue issus which meant the surgery was too risky for my bowel and nerve damage in that region.

i now have to go down the radiotherapy route to remove the cancer.

bit of a disappointment to say the least but i least do have another avenue of traetment available to me.

i am home now and doing ok. no driving or doing much for a month so plenty of time for sport watching.

thanks as always for all the kind thoughts expressed on here . its much appreciated

nice one paulo - very pleased for you m8

Try and stay positive Dragon. Get there in the end. Best wishes.

Chin up, as previously said stay positive and enjoy the sport fest coming up.

That must be very disappointing but Radiotherapy is one of the main and most effective treatments for prostate cancer.

Will you be getting a tattoo?

The Dragon,

Sorry to hear this news.

But, when I had my prostate gland removed the surgeon had a lot of trouble scraping off its bed. He did it but feared I would get an infection, which I subsequently did. Infection was in the pelvis and needed intravenous drugs to clear it. Then, five monts later, I had to have my pelvis cleaned and then pinned because of the damage the infection did to the bone.

When they x-raying the pelvis, though, they found a spot on my kidney. A year later part of my kidney was removed because of that spot - which then turned out to a cancer unrelated to my prostate. So, had I not got the infection the cancerous kidney would have gone undected for much longer.

I also had radiotheraphy after the prostate was removed to clear the prostate bed. All worked out completely and I was fully discharged many years ago now.

I tell you all this not to be a drama queen but to hopefuly help show you that things do work out and that not having your prostate removed because of your hernia was probably a good thing - look what happened with my pelvis (athough it did lead to showing the issue with the kidney).

Radiotherpahy in the prostate area is one of the easiest to have, although it will burn your bum hole a bit!!!

I wish you all the best with it and do keep us posted.

Don't be too disappointed. As long as the cells were localised & restricted to the prostate, it's between 1.1 &  1.02 That with radiotherapy you'll get 15 more years at least. And as we all know on here, the only time these lose is when Moneytree tips them. Chin up, smile, get to the end of treatment & be well.

Sound advice and sorry to hear your surgery did not go as planned. I lost a good friend to this two years ago, but unfortunately he ignored the symptoms until it was too late and he was at stage 4 (PSA 170)
As a result pretty much everyone he knew went for a PSA checkup. I myself had a low score (1) but the "finger up the bum" process detected a swollen prostate so its tamsulosin for me for it seems like ever.
Still, get the test done. I know for some there is the fear of the test because they dread the answer, but just do it.

Take care dragon. Some sound advice too from others.

We're all in your corner.

We all certainly are.

Great work by others sharing their own personal experiences.

Sort of disappointing news Dragon , and presumably more bloody PSA tests ....hope all goes well .

sorry it didnt go well for you dragon.

as others have said, you still have other ways to treat it.

good luck.

We know you had prepared yourself for an operation TD and to have it aborted must be very disappointing but radiotherapy is not a secondary option it's actually a very good alternative. I have three mates who went down the radiotherapy route and they have all had a very  positive outcome. Hope you can start soon and all goes well mate. And keep us posted if you feel up to it - we are all with you on this journey.

thanks guys. waiting to hear from radioligists from leighton hospital now.

will chase them up nextweek if i dont hear from them

best wishes to you dragon....sounds like there are some knowledable people on here sharing which is great....remember to eat healthy and prepare yourself inmind and body for the battle....my moneys on you...

Yeah, good luck mate.

Keep positive,good outcome expected.All the best m8

I'm sure you'll come through this stressful time Dragon .ATB.

cheers twizz great to hear from you. trust all good with you

best wishes dragon. keep your chin up.

Thanks for the update Dragon. Good to hear you are feeling better, also its good to have it all laid out. Like you say plenty of sport to keep you occupied and finally the prem is back.

Keep going Dragon

TD regarding the tiredness, I often suffer from that. I find it helps to set myself little goals every day. Usually jobs I've been putting off for years.

Take care.

thanks guys update seems to have gone?

Apr 9, 2026 -- 12:24PM, The Dragon wrote:

thanks guys update seems to have gone?

?? It was there an hour or so ago, I remember wanting to do a hormone pun.

weird

i  posted a thread on the fotty forum foe week 37 of the correct score comp and that vanished also- Devil

put a replacement thread up -Crazy

TD are you going to post a Masters thread?

thanks mr c-looks like we are in a similiar boat. i wsh you all the best and keep us updated on how you are doing.

not this year nobby- maybe u cd put one up

Thanks Dragon  will do

day 2 of hormone treatment and so far so good

Good man - didn't know you had been switched from radiotherapy. Know absolutely nothing about hormone treatment so look forward to hearing how it goes. As per usual GL with it TD.

Just looking back coz I have missed a couple of days on here and there seems to be a continuity problem. Is it my imagination or have several key posts been deleted for some reason...? Strange...?

hey vid my latest update post detailing my new treatment arrangements has been deleted. i have no idea why such a shams as some imp info in that post

My post of yesterday detailing my treatment plan has also vanished

this is so weird can anyone think of a rational explaination why treatment plans wd be deleleted

Was it tumourophobic? (Hope your not offended by my attempt at humour).

Good luck dragon. Pretty sure i got it..my pee streams as weak as well...p*ss
Nature can do its job..no radiotherapy for me after my mate had horrendous reaction to it and died in agony..each to their own..everything crossed for you

day 5 of hormone treatment and only side effect so far has been the occassional hot sweats and a degree of tiredness(altough this could be due to post op).

So far its been ok but early days. First injection is on Thursday.

thanks bs - so sorry to hear about your m8 ...thats awful.

For info Dragon i was diagnosed with aggressive prostrate cancer 2017, given 2years .my psa doubles every 3 months .Its a long story but i had my prostrate removed 2017 and its sent awayfor testing.THE RESULTS came back "it hadn't penetrated the prostrate wall!"
I WAS NOW CARRYING anaggressive tumour that had escaped at the "BIOPSI STAGE.I,VE HAD TwO EPISODES OF RADIO THERAPY at two different Welsh hospitals....they didn't get it.
I'VE BEEN on 3 monthly hormone jabs for 8 years.
The jabs have kept the psa down.."  0 " but you're waiting for the day it breaks through.
I Suffered minor burns with the radiotherapy but experience good and not so good with pain .(very bearable with a couple of couple of co codamol..not knowing when is the problem.
MY CANCER WAS SPREAD BY THE BIOPSI!!!! and i can clearly remember mr.C" This hormone injection will KILL any cancer that escapes at the time." said the nurse.

Think hard and research before having a biopsi....is there another way....if you knew you had an aggressive tumour a surgeon wouldent go sticking needles in it!
p.s i.m nearly 80 and but for this in very good  health.
Next jab tomorrow...

thanks for sharing BG - i take it you love Boxer Dogs - I do too!

Ive already had the biopsy and they rated my cancer as moderate risk and not aggressive so hopefully i have by passed by the terrible misfortune you have had.

so glad to hear that you have made it for nearly 10 years post diagnosis and i hope that you have many more years to go.

again thanks for sharing and i wish you all the best going forward

Where's the rest of this thread???

Half this thread disappeared & now it's back. Suggests technical issues rather than heavy handed moderating.

Just catching up on this Dragon, had not realised you had undergone the op yet.

Good luck with the rest of the treatment and trust that all works out well for you.

thanks barstool . i am on day 9 of the hormone treatment and have my first injection next Thursday

all ok so far

Hi TD - good to hear everything going ok atm - don't really know much about the treatment but GL with it and thanks for sharing your experience with us. Very brave of all you lads who are sharing their battle with this horrible disease imho.

You got this dragon! Best wishes

cheers guys - day 13 of hormone treatment today.

Definite good days and bad days. General fatigue and lack of normal zest as well as being a bit emotional are the worst symptoms so far.Not sleeping that well but its ok.

Libido defo taken a nose dive so the tablets must be working.

It will be interesting to see what impact the injections have later this week.

PROSTATE

Hiya TD thanks for the update - good to hear things are progressing. Had to google the drug you are on - medical science really is amazing nowadays. You seem to be doing very well and have a very positive mindset and that is key to your battle. GL with the radiotherapy and keep us posted when you feel up to it. All the best - v. p.s. wont mention football far too depressing atm

Apr 19, 2026 -- 10:11PM, mega88 wrote:

You got this dragon! Best wishes

Yeah, all the best Dragon.

All the Best mate..