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23 Nov 25
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First impressions are that Chelsea and Arsenal should not be favourites against Barca and Bayern, so that's the way I'll be betting initially.
It's not as if Barca and Bayern are playing each other next Sunday but Chelsea are Arsesnal do.
And it's not as if the UK teams can "cement" a player like Yamal without an English ref.
And it's not like the WWF freestyle grappling at set plays will be tolerated either.
8/1 the double Barca/Bayern looks irresistable.
It's not as if Barca and Bayern are playing each other next Sunday but Chelsea are Arsesnal do.
And it's not as if the UK teams can "cement" a player like Yamal without an English ref.
And it's not like the WWF freestyle grappling at set plays will be tolerated either.
8/1 the double Barca/Bayern looks irresistable.
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Tuesday
Wednesday
| H | D | A | ||||
| 4.4 | Ajax | 3.9 | Benfica | 1.94 | ||
| 1.64 | Galatasaray | 4.6 | Union St Gilloise | 5.8 | ||
| 3.25 | Bodo Glimt | 3.95 | Juventus | 2.26 | ||
| 2.42 | Chelsea | 4 | Barcelona | 2.92 | ||
| 1.92 | Borussia Dortmund | 3.9 | Villareal | 4.5 | ||
| 1.26 | Manchester City | 7.4 | Bayer Leverkusen | 13.5 | ||
| 2.96 | Marseille | 3.5 | Newcastle | 2.64 | ||
| 1.32 | Napoli | 6.4 | Qarabag | 11.5 | ||
| 3.15 | Slavia Prague | 3.45 | Athletic Bilbao | 2.50 |
Wednesday
| H | D | A | ||||
| 1.38 | Copenhagen | 5.6 | Kairat | 10.5 | ||
| 5.7 | Pafos | 4.3 | Monaco | 1.68 | ||
| 2.32 | Arsenal | 3.65 | Bayern Munich | 3.35 | ||
| 2.34 | Atletico Madrid | 3.6 | Inter Milan | 3.35 | ||
| 2.74 | Eintracht Frankfurt | 3.75 | Atalanta | 2.66 | ||
| 1.36 | Liverpool | 6.2 | PSV Eindhoven ... | 9.4 | ||
| 8.4 | Olympiakos | 5.6 | Real Madrid | 1.42 | ||
| 1.44 | Paris St-G | 5.3 | Tottenham | 8.4 | ||
| 1.71 | Sporting Lisbon | 4.4 | Brugge | 5.2 |
Benfica & Ajax are 35th and 36th (of 36) in the table with 0pts from 4 games.
But supposedly one is much better than the other
But supposedly one is much better than the other
Chelsea and Barca should be going for the win as they're not top 8. Arsenal can afford to lose, they might go all out, but they prob shouldn't as Chelsea have an extra day's rest and they should still get top 8 if they lose. Liverpool won the 1st phase last year and got PSG the next round they played. No prizes for finishing top (other than a few £m).
Nov 23, 2025 -- 11:57PM, lurka wrote:
Look at the teams they've played and the scorelines.
Ajax lost 5-1 at Chelsea and Benfica only lost 1-0 there, but Ajax were down to 10 men after 15 minutes and Chelsea had 2 deflections. Benfica away to Newcastle were the level of a team that would get relegated from the PL with about 23pts. They just look equally shyte to me.
Benfica we're OK at Newcastle until they had to open up
to chase the game.
Could easily have been 1-0
Better than wolves and forrest, maybe not as good as spurs or Fulham.
to chase the game.
Could easily have been 1-0
Better than wolves and forrest, maybe not as good as spurs or Fulham.
ah OK, I didn't watch the entire game, Newcastle dominated what I did see
Benfica were unlucky not to take the lead at Newc. Ajax are woeful, sacked their manager after the last CL game but have lost both games since.
The price boost for Lamine Yamal (SOT), and over 0.5 1st 1/2 goal in Ajax vs Benfica is 1/1 for both.
Nov 25, 2025 -- 11:54AM, lurka wrote:
Benfica were unlucky not to take the lead at Newc. Ajax are woeful, sacked their manager after the last CL game but have lost both games since.
This is a trappy set-up. Backed Benfica matchday4 and was very disappointed with their effort - almost an affront to their home fans.
Eight games, eight defeats between them - I'll side with Ajax because I think they will have a better chance of making the play-offs on a victory tonight. That said, I imagine all tonight's players are for sale ..
A draw is obviously no good to either side so may be some value in X-1 or X-2 and 0-0 HT (note 365 boost that).
I loathed his timewasting antics before the FA caught up with the practise.
But even if he had been with a club competing for the glittering prizes, he would still have been diving on the ball for England to waste 30 seconds. It's called Doing a Pickford.
But even if he had been with a club competing for the glittering prizes, he would still have been diving on the ball for England to waste 30 seconds. It's called Doing a Pickford.
Arsenal are entitled to be clear favs at home to Bayern.
If teams are of equal ability then 2.3 is what home advantage makes Arsenal. And there doesn't seem any reason to think they are not basically equals.
I had thought Barcelona were somewhat better than Chelsea though, but I suppose some people factor in that Club World Cup.
If teams are of equal ability then 2.3 is what home advantage makes Arsenal. And there doesn't seem any reason to think they are not basically equals.
I had thought Barcelona were somewhat better than Chelsea though, but I suppose some people factor in that Club World Cup.
btts in the chelsea and man city matches today, think similar for ars tomorrow
Good luck anybody betting on Chelsea games.
I can't get them right.
I can't get them right.
Chelsea are a tricky team to predict. You expect them to go all guns blazing and they fail to produce anything, then just when you're expecting a mid-table team to frustrate them, they start scoring.
Nov 25, 2025 -- 6:59PM, tobermory wrote:
Ajax are really bad, that miss just now
Yes.
I thought the new format was great last year but now I'm not sure. It's like playing the FA Cup 3rd round in a league format.
Marseille 0-1 Newcastle
Chelsea 1-0 Barcelona
Man City 0-1 Leverkusen
Chelsea 1-0 Barcelona
Man City 0-1 Leverkusen
Man City were the day's biggest pre-match drifters
It’s incredible leif. Is he in the process of a mental breakdown. It just doesn’t make sense. Other clubs rest their best players in advance of European games, Pep rests them in the games. Is he going mad?
Home to Leeds on the weekend so you'd think he'd use that game to rest his star players and get the result done this evening.
am laying liverpool at 1.3 n hopefully cashout
at some later on during the game, the dutch only lost
1 of there CL games and are unbeaten in 11 games
apparantley...n the pool are pretty diabolical atm..
at some later on during the game, the dutch only lost
1 of there CL games and are unbeaten in 11 games
apparantley...n the pool are pretty diabolical atm..
Took around 1.72 for the BTTS in Arsenal Bayern - think both sides are strong attacking but have some questions in defence.
Can't see either defence being comfortable here.
Can't see either defence being comfortable here.
players trying to get slot sacked ? cross comes over van Dijk just punches it away, deliberately
takena wee bit 0f 1.75
to cushion malosses if
liverpool make a comeback
to cushion malosses if
liverpool make a comeback
may well be.... who was slotmachine
manager of before the pool..?
manager of before the pool..?
vvd up to something here. gifted them a penalty now trying to get sent off.
1-1 - both goals worthy of another watch. Not a bad game, but PSG looking tactically better.
greened up 15 mins back w pool
best scenario draw or psv...
its hard been a pool supporter
but had to lay em at 1.3 at k0
best scenario draw or psv...
its hard been a pool supporter
but had to lay em at 1.3 at k0
Nov 26, 2025 -- 1:05PM, jasstardust wrote:
am laying liverpool at 1.3 n hopefully cashout at some later on during the game, the dutch only lost 1 of there CL games and are unbeaten in 11 games apparantley...n the pool are pretty diabolical atm..
nice one
That's another screamer of a result for the firms, Liverpool not winning that is.
Muani scores first and second goal for Spurs against his parent club... both powerful strikes. Now let's see if he can bring that to the PL
Champions league is the new Barclays.
Nov 26, 2025 -- 9:35PM, sofaking wrote:
Why Kolo Muani not cup-tied?
does not apply in europe
1 more goal in the Atletico game and it's a full house of CL overs today
Nov 26, 2025 -- 9:40PM, tobiasr wrote:
Nov 26, 2025 -- 9:35PM, sofaking wrote:Why Kolo Muani not cup-tied?does not apply in europe
OK cheers.
surely cant be much more of this before something has to be changed
looking more and more like klopp won the title last season even though he was not there. slot changes the personnel in the summer to his liking and this is the result
Brenda Todgers spotted at John Lennon,hammering the lounge buffet.
Slot gone.
Slot gone.
steady on 11kv its not bad enough to want brenda back
the days of envelopes with the names of players that you think are going to let you down are thankfully long gone
Regarding Liverpool - many people will say they're supposed to be professional, but I think the (subconscious?) emotional trauma of Diego Jota could be a major factor.
thats a very fair point poppy in all fairness. must be hard to care much about football after something like that. although it didnt affect results early in the season. delayed reaction perhaps with grief a very strange thing that doesnt follow schedules necessarily
Thought Rogers was off to Leeds
Sam alladyce just joined the buffet
Sam alladyce just joined the buffet
as an aside, thats now three nights in a row with a big dog away winner... everton, leverkusen and now psv
Some fabulous football matches in the CL tonight. A pleasure to watch Arsenal dismantle Bayen tonight. Looking forward to MOTD later.
at prices in outreet mkt
champs league
am going at
leverkusen 330/350 ish
and inter at 36/40...
they both gotta qualify
champs league
am going at
leverkusen 330/350 ish
and inter at 36/40...
they both gotta qualify
It seemed early in the season when Liverpool won 5 games
that they were set up wrong.
Some good coaches around these days
and just getting picked off.
All this grief is something of a distraction
and plenty of folk have used grief to solidify
an effort, the good coaches will continue to pick
off a poorly organised Liverpool and if liverpool
try to fix a grief problem without fixing the defence
it might get worse before it gets better.
Last year was a great effort, after chucking in towel
the year before, maybe there are just too many towel
chuckers under pressure.
that they were set up wrong.
Some good coaches around these days
and just getting picked off.
All this grief is something of a distraction
and plenty of folk have used grief to solidify
an effort, the good coaches will continue to pick
off a poorly organised Liverpool and if liverpool
try to fix a grief problem without fixing the defence
it might get worse before it gets better.
Last year was a great effort, after chucking in towel
the year before, maybe there are just too many towel
chuckers under pressure.
did a BAB arsenal/SAKA to score/ over2.5 goals and my 1st supersub collect with Marty coming on the saka and scoring, thank you MR NEUR 
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